Popular Post QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Please do not read this as it contains spoilers if you have not finished the main plot. I cannot seem to understand why people love this game so much (probably due to the hate of TLOU2 and people need something to dick-ride on). For those dick-riding the Ghost of Tsushima game. Think about the plot, first Yuna somehow finds Jin among the dead and rescue him. How unlikely is that, he is slain with a sword on his back and face down. Does she check every Samurai there to make sure they are alive? In Act 1, the Mongols invaded the island, pretty much wiped out Japanese and controlled a lot of territories, but they don't kill Lord Shimura for some reason? They want him alive because they want to use him to conquer the island and make his own citizens surrender. But thing is, they already own the fucking island after the invasion, that's why you have to liberate so many areas. So instead of hunting down Jin (basically one-man army), they sit at their camps and stupid outposts and wait for Jin to kill them? When Lord Shimura refuses to help, why doesn't the Khan just kill him then? Instead, he keeps Shimura alive? For what? He refused to help Khan. And then Khan leaves that castle for Act 2 but he leaves Shimura behind, instead of dragging him along and continue to hold him hostage, they basically leave him and ask for him to be rescued. That made no sense. Now Act 2, Lord Shimura and you launch invasion, they shoot down the bridge. Instead of like planning defenses for a possible Japanese attack tomorrow, they have a feast and you somehow poison their drinks? WTF? Who has a feast instead of planning for defenses especially when you just had a bunch of your own soldiers go down? Act 3, Jin gets shot down by poison at the start and falls a minute after riding his horse. Do you mean to tell me the Mongols who shot Jin couldn't find his ass after he collapsed in 1 min? Also how invincible is Jin? In the final boss fight with Khan, Khan threw poison at Jin's face multiple times but Jin just brushed it off like it was nothing. Also from the Khan's perspective, you didn't even conquer Tsushima and actually lost a lot of the territories back to Jin and Japanese, why not liberate the fucking island first and then focus attack on main-land. It's like a kid wanting to run before he can walk lmao. Also the ending with Shimura both options seems like a cop-out. If you are a true Japanese and the country declares you a traitor, you would actually let Shimura slain you. You did what you felt like was right by doing the assassins' way but ultimately a true Japanese would accept the country's orders and kill himself or be slain without resistance. Say what you want about Shimura, I find him to be an annoying bitch, but he represented the true way of Japanese. So for the 2 choices, it made no sense for anyone to choose to kill Shimura because choosing to kill him would actually be the "honorable thing" to do by letting Shimura die honorably and granting his wishes. But you weren't honorable to begin with that is why you adopted the Ghost tactics and even took the duel with Shimura instead of accepting the fact you are the traitor. So the only logical thing is to do the dishonorable thing and spare him but even the game does a cop-out by saying "I may be dishonorable, but I will not kill my family". When seems like a joke to say when he is trying you deliberately slain you and cop-out by making Jin "likable" and "relatable" by saying that. Playing on both sides for endings so you technically "don't have a bad ending". I haven't even mentioned the historical inaccuracies about the game and period (Yes, I understand it is a game and historical accuracies are not important). But they actually advertised "Oh our studio did so much research on that period", but yet still has a lot of inaccuracies just seems to make them look like a joke. It's fine having inaccuracies, but don't say you researched everything and this is what you came up with. Also none of the supporting characters had a major impact in the game at all. Sensei Ishikawa was a 9 quest drag out that kept repeating the same shit again and again how he should have killed his student. That could have been shorten to a 4 quest thing. Norio's quests were a WTF. Most of all, you spend all this time to recruit these side characters, but they actually had no major impact in any of the battles. It isn't like TLOU where Bill comes to rescue Joel when he is hung upside down, Henry and Sam coming back to rescue Ellie and Joel from drowning, Jesse taking a shot to the face from Abby instead of Ellie, Lev ultimately saving Dina and Ellie since Abby spared them because of Lev. Those characters influenced the plot and had major events. In Ghost of Tsushima, those characters you recruited were just in the same battle as you, you essentially could have just did everything yourself, they didn't launch a significant attack where it saves you or enhances the plot. Lastly, if you grind all the side quests, literally all the side quest characters have the same facial models and it is basically 30 different characters with same model giving you the same quests with different twists. The main point of this post is to call out the dick-riders of the game. If there are major flaws in a game and barely anyone is there in the community to criticize and bring these issues to light, then the developers would have no incentive to improve on the major flaws of the game for their next game. So dick-riding is actually doing a disservice to yourself since it does not push the envelope on improvement. You can like the game and give it 8/10 (even though I score it a 6/10) but can still criticise it... The fact that the user score is higher than RDR2 or GOT is ridiculous (and proves my point about dick-riding). Edited August 17, 2020 by QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mighty_Ducks Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Lol I got to say.. This is refreshing to read. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGGTheEnd Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Yes the story was bland but if comparing it to Assasins creed it was just a straight up better version of that game. More polished less buggy still fun and beautiful. But I will agree the story was lacking. Jin specifically was the most forgettable character they could have possibly came up with. But most open world games have a shit story with shit voice acting. Horizon, AC, Farcry, Skyrim, Fallout literally any open world game I can think of has an awful story those games are more about exploring cool areas rather than telling a story. It is hard to tell a story and make it fit together when there are 10-20 quest lines all going on at the same time. I had a blast with it although it was repetitive at times I wouldn't give it the raving reviews everyone else is but it was a solid 8 for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hyousai Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 Whenever I read something like, “an honest review of game X”, it pretty much always translates to “look at me poop on the game look at me”. Bonus points for calling people that liked it “dick-riding”. Top marks for shit-stirring there. A perfect 5 out of 7. That said, I agree with most of your points about the story being iffy. I felt the swordplay and atmosphere helped make up for it and keep me reasonably engaged. Story must not have been a complete dealbreaker for you if you went and got the Platinum. Overall, some fun swordplay and stealth with a meh story. Not my GotY, but a more enjoyable experience than your typical AAA game. 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mighty_Ducks Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, hyousai said: Story must not have been a complete dealbreaker for you if you went and got the Platinum. I disagree on that. It might have been a deal breaker for him. It's just that he didn't want to see an incomplete trophy list when he can get a 100% on it. I played a few games I didn't like on my other account just cause I put it on my trophy list and didn't want it to be incomplete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, hyousai said: Whenever I read something like, “an honest review of game X”, it pretty much always translates to “look at me poop on the game look at me”. Bonus points for calling people that liked it “dick-riding”. Top marks for shit-stirring there. A perfect 5 out of 7. That said, I agree with most of your points about the story being iffy. I felt the swordplay and atmosphere helped make up for it and keep me reasonably engaged. Story must not have been a complete dealbreaker for you if you went and got the Platinum. Overall, some fun swordplay and stealth with a meh story. Not my GotY, but a more enjoyable experience than your typical AAA game. I wouldn't have posted this if people weren't dick-riding the game. The user score for this game is ridiculously high for something that has major flaws. Even RDR2 or GOW didn't have that big of a user score. It really isn't a bad game per se. But the fact that they overhyped it and the stealth was really basic and clunky, (all the different stances seem unnecessary in combat and actually ruins the flow of the combat system the fact that you have to keep switching back and forth, but I can understand how some people may like it), AI was dumb as a bag of rocks. It was very disappointing to say the least. Overall I'm glad I got the physical steelbook and I was able to re-sell 80% of what I paid for. It wouldn't be a bad game at all if it's like 50% off or 67% off, but the way it was marketed and hyped - it was misleading and very disappointing. I grinded for the platinum because it was easy grind. No uncertainties when it comes to collectibles even though they were all boring. Since I paid for the full price to begin with, might as well grind it. It is really a joke of a grind compare to something like RDR2 Edited August 17, 2020 by QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlphaExGAT Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui said: I wouldn't have posted this if people weren't dick-riding the game. So you're basically in your feelings. Edited August 17, 2020 by AlphaExGAT 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LastMinuteSavior Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 What is up with all the "dick-riding"? There's some deep freudian shit going on right there. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhinandhan22 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui said: I wouldn't have posted this if people weren't dick-riding the game. The user score for this game is ridiculously high for something that has major flaws. Even RDR2 or GOW didn't have that big of a user score. It really isn't a bad game per se. But the fact that they overhyped it and the stealth was really basic and clunky, (all the different stances seem unnecessary in combat and actually ruins the flow of the combat system the fact that you have to keep switching back and forth, but I can understand how some people may like it), AI was dumb as a bag of rocks. It was very disappointing to say the least. Overall I'm glad I got the physical steelbook and I was able to re-sell 80% of what I paid for. It wouldn't be a bad game at all if it's like 50% off or 67% off, but the way it was marketed and hyped - it was misleading and very disappointing. I grinded for the platinum because it was easy grind. No uncertainties when it comes to collectibles even though they were all boring. Since I paid for the full price to begin with, might as well grind it. It is really a joke of a grind compare to something like RDR2 I sold off my copy as well and I haven't sold a single Playstation Exclusive on the PS4 yet. The last sony exclusive I sold was beyond two souls on ps3. Probably my least favourite PS4 exclusive too. And there's definitely a group of people who are overhyping this game and using it to trash Last of Us 2 or asking Naughty Dog to learn from Sucker Punch. I'm pretty sure that's what OP is referring to as dick riding not the people who love this game just for what it is. Anyways I hope Sucker Punch doesn't completely go down this route as Infamous and Sly cooper are far better and enjoyable games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AiManiaTrophyhuntres Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 not everything has to do with TLOU2, I didn't play both of the games, but I am interested in Ghost bc I loves the infamous series, I don't care for TLOU in general (I didn't like part 1) so if I wanted to buy a game now it would be ghost. Both gaes habe nothing to do with each other, I feel like TLOU fanboys are just searchng for things they can complain about. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alos88 Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 Thread title is misleading, I was expecting something less biased in either direction and got 'dick riding' in the first sentence. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Or just let people enjoy a thing. My uninformed conspiracy ever since I saw the high user score was that people attacked it the same way they did TLOU2 but in reverse in a further protest. But if they're all genuine reviews, it's wonderful people like something. Edited August 17, 2020 by ChunkyKong64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LordEddardStark7 Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 To OP, when your title says Honest Review, it must contain pros and cons, unless the game is downright shit, which this isn't. When you give a "dick-riding" opinion, it's not honest anymore, more like biased. Still, I accept the story has issues, pacing has issues like every open-world RPG. I loved the combat and that's the saving grace for this game. Do I agree with 9.3 user score on MC? Well I don't agree with any score to be honest, 83 MC critic score, 9.3 MC user score neither do any justice to the game, same for 94 critic/~5 user TLOU2 MC scores. TLDR - honest opinions should have pros and cons, makes it less biased and never be influenced by user/critic scores for any game. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post griffin123456789 Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui said: Please do not read this as it contains spoilers if you have not finished the main plot. I cannot seem to understand why people love this game so much (probably due to the hate of TLOU2 and people need something to dick-ride on). For those dick-riding the Ghost of Tsushima game. The main point of this post is to call out the dick-riders of the game. (and proves my point about dick-riding). I look forward to you writing the updated version of the Kama Sutra so you can tell us about all the dick riders in human history. This post of yours is an exciting foray into the psychology of this particular sex position! That being said (I'm the writer of the trophy guide here for the record) I don't think this is Sucker Punch's best game yet. I consistently felt like the experience was alright. A couple really badass moments here and there, but not consistently blowing my mind. There's definitely some bad input delay for button commands (look it up, people have delay issues if their TV doesn't have a refresh rate option) and the camera is shockingly bad at times, getting stuck constantly and easily losing track of enemies. I did think the later acts were better than the early hours, it just would have been nice to get there sooner. I still think inFamous on the PS3 is better than pretty much any of the PS4 exclusives we got this generation, with the exception of Bloodborne but that wasn't a Playstation brand developer. I also think The Last of Us 2 is fine for what it is, don't personally understand a lot of the hate, I feel the need to compare these two games is a bit desperate. I will at least say that I didn't feel exhausted by the time I got the platinum in Ghost of Tsushima, while TLOU2 required two playthroughs which was overkill for that game I felt considering how I didn't like how often you had to do slow walking narrative sections followed by hiding in tall grass and stabbing enemies' necks repeatedly. Edited August 17, 2020 by griffin123456789 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dry_Plumbus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Game is a HUGE letdown after Infamous First Light and Second Son. The environment graphics are unreal. The character models look like horse shit. The gameplay is clunky AF and unfinished, but still somewhat fun. The story is straight trash. Boring side characters, boring main character, boring plot. (I love learning about Japanese history and culture & this made me want to fall asleep.) The highly repetitive nature of the open world is exactly why I dislike open world games. Infamous was better looking and more engaging with this open world stuff IMO. I think the game was rushed because they wanted that COVID19 unemployment money. There was no reason to release this game so unfinished otherwise. TLOU2 is far and away a better game in all the points that I already made. Not even close to the same quality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, enclosed-hairdo said: To OP, when your title says Honest Review, it must contain pros and cons, unless the game is downright shit, which this isn't. When you give a "dick-riding" opinion, it's not honest anymore, more like biased. Still, I accept the story has issues, pacing has issues like every open-world RPG. I loved the combat and that's the saving grace for this game. Do I agree with 9.3 user score on MC? Well I don't agree with any score to be honest, 83 MC critic score, 9.3 MC user score neither do any justice to the game, same for 94 critic/~5 user TLOU2 MC scores. TLDR - honest opinions should have pros and cons, makes it less biased and never be influenced by user/critic scores for any game. Honest opinions don't have to have pros and cons. Like I said, I got the steelbook version of the game (I almost grabbed the collector's edition but paused on that since I never played their Infamous games) So I actually want to like the game. I'll admit, the graphics are pretty stunning. However, that was about the only pro that the game had. And they did a half-ass job with that too by using the same character models for pretty much all the side quest characters. So the studio spent time making these nice graphics but didn't bother creating maybe 30-40 more character models. There are 3 aspects of the game: 1. Story (with or without side quests) 2. Gameplay 3. Graphics You said gameplay and combat were fun. I listed out my reason why gameplay and combat sucks and doesn't flow well (especially with weird camera angles). So even though the graphics are stunning, it is simply outweighed by the lackluster story with major holes in the plot and awful gameplay. Who cares about graphics when everything else sucks? There is a reason why people play games that are over 10+ years old still, it is certainly not because of graphics because every triple A game nowadays has better graphics than they did 10+ years ago. Which is why I did not list it as a pro because it didn't even matter. Hell, if I want to look at something stunning, I can just google pictures of Japan (I've been there 3 times for travel/vacations including the island of Okinawa) or other parts of the world that has colorful trees lmao. Edited August 17, 2020 by QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post XXIIlII Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 ❌ A Honest Review of the Game ✔️ Bitching thread 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurjen Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 16 hours ago, Alos88 said: Thread title is misleading, I was expecting something less biased in either direction and got 'dick riding' in the first sentence. i agree i thought it was an actual real review but as when i read down its one of those people who wanted to defend last of us 2 1 hour ago, XXIIlII said: A Honest Review of the Game Bitching thread thats actually accurate 17 hours ago, LastMinuteSavior said: What is up with all the "dick-riding"? There's some deep freudian shit going on right there. just some shit stirring cause the game got better praise than last of us part 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djb5f Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 Dude, never seen someone with such a fascination of the term dick-riding. Kind of bizarre but whatever floats your boat! I just glanced at the first post and it was in there at least four times, probably more. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RevengeancePrime Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 This is what you call an honest review? And this is a game, not a book, there are more elements to it than just the story and characters. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jannyhimself Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 How many times can one person use the term "dick-riding" in a review? It's almost as if he's "dick-riding" himself. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grimydawg___ Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 I don't care about the story TBH. I just want to get my Ghost Dawg on lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedSkyKing Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 Any credibility to this “review” went out the window as soon as I saw the term dick-riding. This just seems like a poor attempt to ruffle some feathers. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselmanchild Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Every time I open an “honest review” thread I know I’m about to read a raving rant. ? I haven’t played the game myself so I can’t really discuss the points you’ve made, but I will say that a lot of your complaints seem really silly and petty to me. This kind of read to me like you wanted to hate this one from the beginning and were just looking for every little flaw or silly piece of video game logic to nitpick over and criticize. 20 hours ago, QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui said: I wouldn't have posted this if people weren't dick-riding the game. The user score for this game is ridiculously high for something that has major flaws. Even RDR2 or GOW didn't have that big of a user score. The whole user score system itself is incredibly flawed. We should just do away with number ratings to be honest. The vast majority of people dish out a number rating based purely on their own enjoyment and feelings towards the game, with very little reasoned thought or analysis going into their rating. Just look no further than the highest rated game on Metacritic - The Last of Us 2. You’ve pretty much got 2 different camps, people who loved the game and people who hated it, giving it 10s and 0s respectively based on how they felt about it. There’s very little middle ground which is just plain silly. That game is neither a flawless masterpiece (no game is), nor a flaming dumpster fire, of which both the critic and user reviews are suggesting. Occasionally I’ll read very thoughtful comments on Metacritic where someone will actually take the time to discuss various aspects of the game (gameplay, graphics, writing, story, voice acting, AI, innovation and imagination etc) and give an appropriate rating based on these things. But these kinds of thoughtful reviews are few and far between. Ghost of Tsushima certainly has some glaring flaws that have been pointed out by many people, and it has been criticized for it’s lack of innovations when it comes to the story and gameplay aspects, so I suspect it probably doesn’t deserve the highest rating of all time. But I think the reason it’s having it”s “dick rode” as you so eloquently put is simply because people really, really enjoyed it for some reason. Again, I have not played it so I have no idea what it’s like, but from what I’ve heard from speaking to other players, it’s a game that achieves what it set out to do very well, and it succeeded in reminding a lot of people why they love getting lost in video games so much in the first place. I’m certainly looking forward to checking it out eventually, but I’ll try to keep your “review” in mind. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEddardStark7 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, QQ_Liu_Xin_Rui said: Honest opinions don't have to have pros and cons. Like I said, I got the steelbook version of the game (I almost grabbed the collector's edition but paused on that since I never played their Infamous games) So I actually want to like the game. I'll admit, the graphics are pretty stunning. However, that was about the only pro that the game had. And they did a half-ass job with that too by using the same character models for pretty much all the side quest characters. So the studio spent time making these nice graphics but didn't bother creating maybe 30-40 more character models. There are 3 aspects of the game: 1. Story (with or without side quests) 2. Gameplay 3. Graphics You said gameplay and combat were fun. I listed out my reason why gameplay and combat sucks and doesn't flow well (especially with weird camera angles). So even though the graphics are stunning, it is simply outweighed by the lackluster story with major holes in the plot and awful gameplay. Who cares about graphics when everything else sucks? There is a reason why people play games that are over 10+ years old still, it is certainly not because of graphics because every triple A game nowadays has better graphics than they did 10+ years ago. Which is why I did not list it as a pro because it didn't even matter. Hell, if I want to look at something stunning, I can just google pictures of Japan (I've been there 3 times for travel/vacations including the island of Okinawa) or other parts of the world that has colorful trees lmao. People like old game graphics because they started off playing those games in that era when high end graphics were technically not possible. New players (and some old) will choose better graphics given an option. If I ask my younger cousin who's 12 to play some of the old 1990s to early 2000s games he won't be impressed by those games as much as current/next gen games. This is always the case, and it's a matter of preference. The game has a very good aesthetically pleasing art-style that will impress not only new players but also "veterans", you can choose to not prefer it but it's there and it's good. It helps immersing into the gameplay. I can defend the camera lock-on option as well. To me, the option to have camera lock-on would mean simply button mashing and chopping away every enemy without any stress. Yes, I would prefer to have that option to lock-on, but I would not use it, because to me it doesn't work with the combat in this game. I prefer smart strategized combat than a button-mashy one. When you play the game on Lethal, you hardly ever have the chance to even lock-on, the option would not have done major impact at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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