AJ_Radio Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 4 hours ago, B1rvine said: PSNTL's system is shit, since the common trophies still hold too much weight, and the formula was tweaked so the PSNTL owner could be near the top. A system with too much emphasis on an exponential rarity growth curve will then make SuperUR's like 0.01's nearly impossible to beat at all -OR- the 1% thru 25%'s become the "new Rata" on a rarity board. Since most SuperURs slight variation in percentage compared to each other is due to player count, online closures, sometimes have inaccurate figures due to cheaters, and different numbers for different regions, and probably aren't all that different in skill (yes... SMB and Necro, i know), that's why I say just make a bracket for all sub 1%s. Also, I'm not talking about just the plat when i talk about rarity. So a "super hard game" with 30 URs gets you more points than a game with 1 UR. Ultimately playing the harder games would get you more points and they'd be worth more since they net you more URs at one time. The owner is in fact the #1 guy on the rarity leaderboards there. @skippycue mostly has a bunch of Zen Pinball and other games with a ridiculous number of prestige trophies, which are trophies under 1 percent that are worth a lot of points. I got a little over a dozen, mostly from Super Meat Boy and a couple other titles. Someone will have to make up their own rarity leaderboard that is fair and legit. Whether they will end up working on it or not is anybodies guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesius Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, starcrunch061 said: So, this doesn't count as save file manipulation? Specifically, what stops me from, e.g., getting a save file for Cuphead, loading it up on a separate profile, and then playing with it in local MP. Is it solely because you might have a friend at your local residence which has the plat? I'm not arguing for or against, BTW - I'm just looking for clarification here. Absolutely nothing. People that don't know someone in RL with the plat could either share their account details with a platinum achiever, or just use save wizard on a secondary profile and pop the trophies on the main. And I believe that both is absolutely going to happen. But hey, let's be happy the exploit exists! Because, you know... the current game is just about getting trophies, not about HOW you get those trophies ? Edited August 24, 2020 by Arcesius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRgreen55 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Dumb question but has anyone tried this in share-play? Does it work if so then i can see why people are mad. But if it doesn't work then your really going to give your Acc up just for a Platinum trophy to a random person on the Web will that kinda of dumb but you do you then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Property_Damage Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) Local co op huh yeah, we can scratch that off the list for 99% of us ill just play this on my switch so no one can see if ive 100% the game or not lol Edited August 24, 2020 by Property_Damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergil Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, MRgreen55 said: Dumb question but has anyone tried this in share-play? Does it work if so then i can see why people are mad. But if it doesn't work then your really going to give your Acc up just for a Platinum trophy to a random person on the Web will that kinda of dumb but you do you then. Well only the host gets trophies in share play so it shouldn't. Or maybe im wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APCGrayLocked Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 for the share-play thing, i'm waiting the response of @Lucantoo and @MiNd_CrUsHeR. As soon as they will respond me, i will update the main post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceOfPeace Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Sony - "Making Dogshit Gamers Believe They're Good At Gaming Since 2008" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeachXHime Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Remember when Socom and Fuel were around and no one batted an eye? Think twice before unlocking some ez trophies folks... you might regret it later down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipendo52 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 22 hours ago, Conker said: Cool find, sucks people complaning about it, not like you have to do this method, you know you can still play it legit?? Also, there is nothing wrong with pumping yourself full of steroids and then going to the olympics, if you dont want to then you can still do it legit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiner- Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Finding exploits in games is a whole skill in itself. Well done. Still won't be playing it though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Dubz Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Quite the bummer and this would probably explain the spike in Rarity increase over the weekend. The game isn't even that hard! Just takes practice and learning the boss patterns. But sadly enough, there are no rules when it comes to trophies. Oh well, hunters gon' hunt after all, whatever it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Arcesius said: But hey, let's be happy the exploit exists! Because, you know... the current game is just about getting trophies, not about HOW you get those trophies When I eventually get to this I will play for the enjoyment. There is much harder stuff out there. But it’s a shame an exploit is separating trophy hunters as far as their philosophies and styles are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBilbanes Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 4:40 PM, BigHatPaul said: A lot of achievement hunters are afraid of challenge. I could get if this was some awful game with bullshit mechanics, total RNG garbage that works completely against you more of than than not, etc, but that is far from the case here. Cuphead is great! Play it! Get better! Just playing it alone should make you want to get better, the sign of a great and fairly balanced difficult game. It's either that, or it's what we all face: time challenges. Not many people want to dedicate time to a plat if it's going to take >15 hours, it seems. Which, okay, I understand, but move on. Stop expecting these things on a silver platter. I haven't purchased this game yet, but plan to at some point. If I can't legitimately earn the platinum trophy, I would rather never have it. The idea that I can use an exploit to get the trophy doesn't really sit well with me. It's for this reason I'll never get the Hollow Knight trophy. I lack the talent to get the more challenging elements successfully. When I get back to the game, I intend to beat the story, earn as many of the trophies I can and move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_v2_0 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, B1rvine said: 23 hours ago, B1rvine said: I've been thinking about this for awhile, actually. It's a wild dream to even pretend Sony can be influenced. Any fixes will have to come from the trophy tracking sites themselves. The challenge is finding a way to start over while acknowledging people's existing trophies are already earned on their accounts (since they aren't going anywhere.) As far as a rarity leaderboard that works, the best bet in my opinion would be similar to the Olympics system. It would rank individuals on the total number of UR trophies they have. For ties, then VRs would be counted, and so forth. So for example, an account with 1 UR would beat out an account with 0 URs, even if they had 50000 commons. Maybe add a new sub 1% category. Next, fix up some new leaderboard rules to address everything we've learned over the years. Finally, since there's no way to erase trophies and officially start over (and nobody would want to anyway), everyone could start off with a score based on some reduction formula from their current trophies, starting the new standardized leaderboard with their existing rank, but at the same time, make it somewhat irrelevant. E.g : Hakoom is currently level 357, so start him off with 357 "virtual" URs. (Not necessarily this, but just illustrating the idea.) Was thinking more of a non rarity board fix.... i have ideas but as far s implementing them i'd feel they'd be impossible/cause complaints... Edited August 25, 2020 by Unknown_v2_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IesuHado Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 If I had the game in my case I would be the friend with the platnium so ? I really need friends lol ? Jokes aside I don't own the game and If I was the legit way for sure would be my form of getting the plat, but that's me and that's how I enjoy games and trophy hunting in general I'm not the guy who is going to spend his money purely for trophies. That said I don't see the problem with this thread in a trophy hunters site, everyone is free for using their owns methods and ways to play/have fun. If they want to get the plat in a day and pass on is their problem not yours guys, you really don't know if they have fun that way or not so don't complain for something that is literally not your problem or affect you at all. (Unless this were a hack then I totally disagree). You know the prhase "Live and let others live" well "Play and lets other play". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamoPh Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Since when can an account logged in as a second controller earn trophies? Or am I not understanding how it's supposed to be carried out correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanGronkjaer Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 23.8.2020 at 8:06 AM, Moridin83 said: Eh. I did this legit, but the exploit doesn't bother me. At the end of the day, people cheesing the trophy doesn't devalue what I did. Plus, if anyone brags about the plat, but has this trophy pattern from popping it with a friend's game, it'll be easy to see and laugh at them. Same mate . Hate this also done hollow knight legit and now everyone glitch this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kcrack_Km Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 14 hours ago, integra_93GS-R said: Quite the bummer and this would probably explain the spike in Rarity increase over the weekend. The game isn't even that hard! Just takes practice and learning the boss patterns. But sadly enough, there are no rules when it comes to trophies. Oh well, hunters gon' hunt after all, whatever it takes. Nah, the rarity increase has been rising every day since it released, was already at 16% before this topic. This game reminds me of Soulbourne games, hard for the newbies but fairly simple when you’ve practiced enough and the platinum becomes very doable for the average person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepEyes7 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, NamoPh said: Since when can an account logged in as a second controller earn trophies? Or am I not understanding how it's supposed to be carried out correctly? On PS4 every controller needs an account linked to it (a little annoying when playing multiplayer offline games), so every account "playing" in that moment can earn trophies if met the requirements for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalHmd Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 The platinum will be 'Uncommon' even before this method is known, so it's not like it's an ultra rare that will be "devalued" I personally won't feel the satisfaction getting it this way. but to each his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1rvine Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) - Edited August 16, 2023 by B1rvine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandA60VISE Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Having a friend is easy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1rvine Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) - Edited August 16, 2023 by B1rvine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXIIlII Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I am both happy and sad lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 0:53 PM, PrinceOfPeace said: Sony - "Making Dogshit Gamers Believe They're Good At Gaming Since 2008" This doesn't sound like something the prince of peace would say! What would Jesus do? Git gud, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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