Why PSNProfiles dont ban hidden hacked trophies

[PL_Tomasz_G]

thx for replies

[B1rvine]

3 hours ago, DaivRules said:

If you can prove they have hacked trophies and can provide the definitive evidence to a Cheater Remover, they'll take action.

 

If I understand the OP's original question, actually, we can't do anything [if it's proven to be cheated, but already hidden in advance]. Probably why all of these 'hidden trophy" debates pop up all the time.

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by B1rvine

[CriesOfFurya]

6 hours ago, DeepEyes7 said:

 

It would be more problematic if the site says which games can be hidden and which ones doesn't because it isn't only because of hackers, there is sometimes glitches that sadly can't be reproduced and get you flagged (As daiv said, things happen).... BUT if the CRT can prove that CFW was used to get the trophies that means instaban, not 2 strikes available...

 

I've seen some disputes about Army of Two and people claiming that got the mask before the site went down and can get the trophies legit now... A lot of colorful stories has been told...

About Army of Two: It is very much possible for someone to have done that. The mask server still works to this date, that's why everyone who uploaded a mask before the site went down, can still download this mask nowadays. Making it even possible for regular plat achievers to get the Japanese platinum for it. 

 

However, the problem is that the mask will be saved on the savefile, after being downloaded. Because of this, people can just download a savefile from the internet, with some masks on it and resign that savefile to their user. That's why that trophy has been littered with hackers over the years. 

 

There is also an easy way for someone to prove their DIY PMC legitimacy with a capture card:

1. Show your profile (ID) and the date in the PS3 internet browser

2. Go to your savefiles and delete all Army of TWO saves

3. Start up the game and go to the mask section, showing there are no saved masks

4. Use the EA mask feature in-game to download those masks

5. If those mask have been retrieved from the servers, it means that they were uploaded before the website went down

5 hours ago, PL_Tomasz_G said:

So flagged games are allowed to hide? Isnt it close the same. How its possible to hack trophies without a hacked console .

Yes, up to 2 older hacks/ savefile hacks are allowed, if they are hidden. Only the 3rd savefile hack or a hack with a CFW (a completely hacked console) will get you permanentely removed from the leaderboards. Personally I think that ruling makes sense, since some big accounts might have made a mistake in the past, when the whole idea of trophy hunters wasn't so fleshed out yet. I remember back in the day seeing a Fifa 09 tutorial, to get that live trophy that went down after like 6 months, by just downloading a save from the video description on YouTube. You didn't even have to resign that savefile, so back then it never even occured to me that people could even be flagged for that and I'm sure other people saw that video and just considered that a fix as well. 

 

I can very well imagine that some people were just playing around with stuff like Socom or Pure in those years and after that have been hunting legitimately for years. Of course they should be forced to hide those games, but it shouldn't completely invalidate someone's account. 

 

Und zu deiner zweiten Frage: Man kann einfach am PC savefiles auf deinen eigenen User umschreiben, wenn du einen Save besitzt bei dem das abgeschlossen wurde was du brauchst. Danach einfach auf eine Konsole via USB ziehen und dann im Spiel einfach laden. Dafuer muss man keine Konsole hacken. Das ist aber recht bekannt und es wundert mich das du davon noch nie etwas gehoert hast... 

 

 

[James_Paul_Smith]

Hacked trophies are kinda stupid. But unless you are Hakoom (or at top of the leaderboards) let's get real no one really cares about people's rankings lol. But if it's important to the individual person, then fair enough!

Edited August 27, 2021 by James_Paul_Smith
.

[AJ_Radio]

I honestly never thought the Hidden Trophies option was good, if at all. After hearing about how people had trouble unhiding their trophies after they had hidden them, I have no desire to ever use that feature.

 

The only time I would accept hidden trophies is if I played GTA V on the PS3 or Call of Duty: World at War on the PS3, where I stand a good chance of getting trophies pop on incident because a modder/hacker was in the same lobby as me. This is one of the few times where a dispute on these forums would actually make sense. People didn't cheat to get those trophies on purpose, they just got them on happenstance. The wrong place at the wrong time.

 

Hiding trophies from games just because you don't like them is completely stupid. I don't think making your trophy profile private is good either, but what the fuck do I know. I'm just one guy out of thousands who hunts trophies and has his own opinions.

[Namenick_Neku]

On 28/8/2021 at 7:35 AM, AJ_Radio said:

Hiding trophies from games just because you don't like them is completely stupid

i hide some trophies not because i hacked them

but just because I don't want them to be calculated on my stats

for example I started Cross Edge

NA version, got some trophies, then buy an European version and can't delete the NA version of the game...

so I don't want that Cross Edge NA trophy list ruin my other stats

 

I also hide my Last of us list, because I only have 4 trophy and don't wanna play it again, also for the same reason..

 

they ruin my "Average"

[GUDGER666]

Leaderboards are full.of cheats and team accounts. Don't get why some are allowed on the leaderboard when they are known to be cheats. I'm now into the top 1K for PS3 and top 100 in UK. Would love to know where i am with all the hackers/team accounts removed. I definitely think team accounts need to have their own leaderboard and not be put with legit players. 

[swedechick]

On 2021-09-06 at 1:11 PM, GUDGER666 said:

Leaderboards are full.of cheats and team accounts. Don't get why some are allowed on the leaderboard when they are known to be cheats. I'm now into the top 1K for PS3 and top 100 in UK. Would love to know where i am with all the hackers/team accounts removed. I definitely think team accounts need to have their own leaderboard and not be put with legit players. 

 

They stay on the leaderboards because no one flags the hacked/cheated games. If you think there's something wrong with those accounts, go flag them. If the Cheater Removal Team agrees, they'll approve the flags and the accounts will get removed from the rankings.

[melodicmizery]

On 8/24/2020 at 7:42 PM, PL_Tomasz_G said:

GTA V and maybe Black Ops II can happen idk but im sure Army Two cant happen because the website to create the mask isnt available since years

make sure to check the date of the mask creation. believe it or not there is still people who got the mask trophy years ago and never finished the game and are still going to their backlog and finishing it. but yah if its recent then its def hacked