ImMagnetz Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Months after its release, and after finally getting the Platinum after they finally fixed the bugged Enforcer trophy, I've gone back to this game to play through the DLCs and holy shit, they still haven't done anything about how terribly this game performs. The game stutters like hell every time you turn a corner, the map has a hard time loading in a lot of the time, etc. Makes me worried about the Mafia 1 remake coming later this month. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin_2943 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, ImMagnetz said: Months after its release, and after finally getting the Platinum after they finally fixed the bugged Enforcer trophy, I've gone back to this game to play through the DLCs and holy shit, they still haven't done anything about how terribly this game performs. The game stutters like hell every time you turn a corner, the map has a hard time loading in a lot of the time, etc. Makes me worried about the Mafia 1 remake coming later this month. I've spent hours on the game got the 100% and encountered very few of the bugs people mention and usually I hit all the bugs in broken games guess I lucked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImMagnetz Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Taliesin_2943 said: I've spent hours on the game got the 100% and encountered very few of the bugs people mention and usually I hit all the bugs in broken games guess I lucked out Guess you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShaka Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, ImMagnetz said: Months after its release, and after finally getting the Platinum after they finally fixed the bugged Enforcer trophy, I've gone back to this game to play through the DLCs and holy shit, they still haven't done anything about how terribly this game performs. The game stutters like hell every time you turn a corner, the map has a hard time loading in a lot of the time, etc. Makes me worried about the Mafia 1 remake coming later this month. Well, mafia 2 is basically a port, it's a different thing, mafia 1 is an actual remake, from there to how good is going to run is other thing, but it looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImMagnetz Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, GoldenShaka said: Well, mafia 2 is basically a port, it's a different thing, mafia 1 is an actual remake, from there to how good is going to run is other thing, but it looks pretty good. It baffles me that the game performs WORSE on the newer, more powerful console. They messed up bad. Yeah, hopefully the Mafia 1 remake has been handled better. I believe it was done by different folks so that's a good sign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusPunisher Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, GoldenShaka said: Well, mafia 2 is basically a port, it's a different thing, mafia 1 is an actual remake, from there to how good is going to run is other thing, but it looks pretty good. Just because Mafia 1 is a remake, it does not exclude it from running poorly or have any bugs or glitches. Mafia III looked good, but it ran horribly and Mafia 1 uses the same enhine. Just saying to still remain cautious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShaka Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: Just because Mafia 1 is a remake, it does not exclude it from running poorly or have any bugs or glitches. Mafia III looked good, but it ran horribly and Mafia 1 uses the same enhine. Just saying to still remain cautious. And i pointed out that, just because it's a remake it doesn't meant it will be flawless, it has to be checked how good will run. But at least in last videos doesn't look buggy. We still have to wait. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westersburg Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 You can't really compare Mafia 3 with Mafia 1 Remake just because it's the same developer. The engine is on a different version now and hangar 13 had no time to polish mafia 3 back in 2016 because 2k forced them rush this. Now they had plenty of time, even delayed the release to september. And a quarter of the final game was already playable for various streamer / youtuber. Looked very polished so far, so yeah. Maybe it's better to get not too excited, but i think we don't have to worry that much. Mafia 2 was from a completely different studio, that already messed up shenmue 1&2 remastered prior to this remaster, so they are the ones to blame. Maybe 2k is responsible for that too, because they wanted an instant release when these games were announced in may. If they had decided to release the mafia 2 remaster on the 10th anniversary (27 august) and the developers worked on the title until then. Who knows how good this game could have run. Maybe even on 60 fps (at least on pro / one x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Duderino Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) Reading threads like this always makes me wonder when people finally understand not to fucking buy games at launch! They're almost always unfinished, broken, and messed up. 2K is arguably one of the worst publishers these days and don't deserve any form of trust. Wait until the game is AT LEAST six months out. LEARN and ADAPT! You don't owe the publishers and developers shit! They have to earn YOUR trust and money. But as long as there are enough fucking idiots out there still buying this garbage at launch for full price, things will only get worse. The gaming industry has been on a clear downward spiral for over a decade now, and YOU, dear early buyers, are the main reason. Stop it! To quote a famous philosopher: Edited January 29, 2022 by R4M Razr 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westersburg Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Santa_in_Sandals said: Reading threads like this always makes me wonder when people finally understand not to fucking buy games at launch! They're almost always unfinished, broken, and messed up. 2K is arguably one of the worst publishers these days and don't deserve any form of trust. Wait until the game is AT LEAST six months out. LEARN and ADAPT! You don't owe the publishers and developers shit! They have to earn YOUR trust and money. But as long as there are enough fucking idiots out there still buying this garbage at launch for full price, things will only get worse. The gaming industry has been own a clear downward spiral for over a decade now, and YOU, dear early buyers, are the main reason. Stop it! To quote a famous philosopher: Well of course you have a point, but wating 6 months when you really, really want to play the game is kinda hard haha. I actually don't care that much about little bugs. I was disappointed when i played mafia 2 on ps4 but i even enjoyed that. The game itself is awesome thanks to 2k czech. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Duderino Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, westersburg said: Well of course you have a point, but wating 6 months when you really, really want to play the game is kinda hard haha. I actually don't care that much about little bugs. I was disappointed when i played mafia 2 on ps4 but i even enjoyed that. The game itself is awesome thanks to 2k czech. Learn to be patient. It's a part of growing up. And yes, that sounds patronizing. But I think most people refuse to grow up and take responsibility. The result is being treated like cattle from the gaming industry. Do you wanna be treated like cattle? Like a pay pig? I doubt it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westersburg Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Santa_in_Sandals said: Learn to be patient. It's a part of growing up. And yes, that sounds patronizing. But I think most people refuse to grow up and take responsibility. The result is being treated like cattle from the gaming industry. Do you wanna be treated like cattle? Like a pay pig? I doubt it... I think you are taking it a bit too far there... seriously The gaming industry is fucked up anyways. Games with bugs are the last of my problems there^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Duderino Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, westersburg said: I think you are taking it a bit too far there... seriously The gaming industry is fucked up anyways. Games with bugs are the last of my problems there^^ You cannot take this "too far". Most so called "triple A" games have a starting price of 60 bucks, are riddled with microtransactions, gambling mechanics, and are in most cases the same fucking garbage every single year. 2K Games, Ubisoft, EA, ActiBlizz, and (sadly) even Square Enix: They're filth. The bottom of the barrel. Have a look at the recent games of said corporations: They're all garbage. Not to mention the drivel coming from those corporation's mouth pieces. "We believe", "value", "engagement". It's the same brainless shit over and over again. People like EA's CEO Andrew "Android" Wilson can't even speak normally anymore. Sexual and physical abuse, working staff into the ground, agenda-driven shitheads like Neil Cuckman. CEOs like Andrew Wilson or Bobby Kotick cash in tens of millions of dollars per year while the normal workers can't even afford the meals in the canteens at their workplaces, or they have to skip meals in order to pay their rent. Jesus, I haven't even started yet! Edited September 10, 2020 by Santa_in_Sandals 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddi89 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Santa_in_Sandals said: But as long as there are enough fucking idiots out there still buying this garbage at launch for full price, things will only get worse. The gaming industry has been own a clear downward spiral for over a decade now, and YOU, dear early buyers, are the main reason. Stop it! I think I'll take the risk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ImMagnetz Posted September 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Santa_in_Sandals said: But as long as there are enough fucking idiots out there still buying this garbage at launch for full price, things will only get worse. You make a lot of valid points but unfortunately they're being overshadowed by your toxicity. You can get your points across without calling people "fucking idiots". Calm the hell down. You're acting like a child. I see where you're coming from but, if everyone had your attitude, then developers would be spending a bunch of money on advertising their games, only for no-one to buy them for the first six months after their release. By that time, a lot of the excitement for the titles will have died down and they'll end up not making the company as much money, meaning that the company won't be able to pay the wages of the workers you seem to care so much about. You're essentially advocating for development companies not to have any source of income for the first six months after they release a game. Do you have any idea what kind of impact that would have on them? Jobs would be lost and they could potentially go out of business, depending on the size of the company. People should 100% be able to buy games on launch, that shouldn't be a problem. What we need to do is hold developers responsible for releasing titles that are full of bugs and so on, which isn't acceptable. Waiting six months isn't going to do a whole heck of a lot in that regard. Mafia 2 Definitive Edition has been out for nearly four months now and, while they have fixed some issues, such as the bugged Enforcer trophy, the game still runs like shit and they show no signs of fixing it, hence why I created this thread. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagszilla Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Santa_in_Sandals said: Reading threads like this always makes me wonder when people finally understand not to fucking buy games at launch! They're almost always unfinished, broken, and messed up. 2K is arguably one of the worst publishers these days and don't deserve any form of trust. Wait until the game is AT LEAST six months out. LEARN and ADAPT! You don't owe the publishers and developers shit! They have to earn YOUR trust and money. But as long as there are enough fucking idiots out there still buying this garbage at launch for full price, things will only get worse. The gaming industry has been own a clear downward spiral for over a decade now, and YOU, dear early buyers, are the main reason. Stop it! To quote a famous philosopher: Great post. ?? Edited September 10, 2020 by Wagszilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Duderino Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ImMagnetz said: You make a lot of valid points but unfortunately they're being overshadowed by your toxicity. You can get your points across without calling people "fucking idiots". Calm the hell down. You're acting like a child. I see where you're coming from but, if everyone had your attitude, then developers would be spending a bunch of money on advertising their games, only for no-one to buy them for the first six months after their release. By that time, a lot of the excitement for the titles will have died down and they'll end up not making the company as much money, meaning that the company won't be able to pay the wages of the workers you seem to care so much about. You're essentially advocating for development companies not to have any source of income for the first six months after they release a game. Do you have any idea what kind of impact that would have on them? Jobs would be lost and they could potentially go out of business, depending on the size of the company. People should 100% be able to buy games on launch, that shouldn't be a problem. What we need to do is hold developers responsible for releasing titles that are full of bugs and so on, which isn't acceptable. Waiting six months isn't going to do a whole heck of a lot in that regard. Mafia 2 Definitive Edition has been out for nearly four months now and, while they have fixed some issues, such as the bugged Enforcer trophy, the game still runs like shit and they show no signs of fixing it, hence why I created this thread. I chuckled. Here are some responses to the things I marked red: 1) I'm not toxic but rather someone who is not influenced by today's "political correctness", soy-boy-ism, and cancel culture. I do not give a fracture of a fuck if anyone's offended by my opinion, attitude or choice of words. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. 2) I'm calm as a coma. You just seem to be overly sensitive. Thicken your skin, mate. 3) Developers don't spend a rusty copper on advertising. That's the publisher's job. Example: Developer: 2K Czech Publisher: 2K Games(By the way, the Mafia II remaster was done by Hangar 13. 2K Czech doesn't exist anymore.) 4) Developers come, developers go. I've been keeping track of the gaming industry for over 25 years. Does anyone remember Acclaim, Bullfrog, or Midway? I have zero sympathy for incompetence. 5) Again, the publishers are making the decisions in most cases. They fund the projects and hold the leash. The downfall of both Bioware and Blizzard after they've been acquired are prime examples to that rule. 6) Then what are the consequences on your side? Vote with your wallet! As long as you buy this crap, the companies in charge have zero incentive to do better. They don't care about your opinion. They don't care about you downvoting posts, comments, pictures and whatnot, or you posting angry tweets. They don't care about pathetic and pointless petitions on change.org. They only care about the mighty moolah. And as long as they'll get away with whatever shit they're pulling, things will only get worse. The last decade of gaming has proven this time and time and time again. Edited September 10, 2020 by Santa_in_Sandals 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ImMagnetz Posted September 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Santa_in_Sandals said: 1) I'm not toxic but rather someone who is not influenced by today's "political correctness", soy-boy-ism, and cancel culture. I do not give a fracture of a fuck if anyone's offended by my opinion, attitude or choice of words. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. 2) I'm calm as a coma. You just seem to be overly sensitive. Thicken your skin, mate. Oh God, there's clearly no point in conversing/debating with you. You're one of those people. There's no talking to you. Everyone else's opinion can go to hell because you're the best thing since sliced bread and could never be wrong about anything. Just because someone calls you out for being an asshole, it doesn't mean that you've offended them or that they're overly sensitive. Getchu some people skills, buddy. Have a nice life. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post exsentry Posted September 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) On 9/10/2020 at 9:01 AM, Santa_in_Sandals said: Reading threads like this always makes me wonder when people finally understand not to fucking buy games at launch! They're almost always unfinished, broken, and messed up. 2K is arguably one of the worst publishers these days and don't deserve any form of trust. Wait until the game is AT LEAST six months out. LEARN and ADAPT! You don't owe the publishers and developers shit! They have to earn YOUR trust and money. But as long as there are enough fucking idiots out there still buying this garbage at launch for full price, things will only get worse. The gaming industry has been own a clear downward spiral for over a decade now, and YOU, dear early buyers, are the main reason. Stop it! Almost everything you said here is factually accurate...but also misguided. You're correct: most AAA games are broken, unfinished, overpriced and in theory...essentially most games should be waited on to play until all potential updates and DLCs have been released. However. shaming gamers who buy games at launch is not going to solve this problem, in fact there's no proof that it even is the problem. There's just too many variables:, bad dev teams, greedy publishers, impatient investors and biased/faulty game journalism. Also, what difference does it make if one buys at it launch and waits for a patch vs. buying it 6 months later for the same price?...the money still goes to the publisher. As well, we have to rely on some people to play the game early, otherwise who is going to report bugs/give feedback for things to get patched? Personally, I treat every game cautiously along with factoring in the history of the dev team/publisher and make my own decision. Edited September 29, 2020 by pathtoninja 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoNinja Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I downloaded this game months ago when they fucked up and listed it as free on the Malaysian store. All the stuff I've read has kept me away from this game. I literally just said fuck it and booted it up 2 seconds ago. Here's hoping I don't regret it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HuntingFever Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 29/09/2020 at 7:57 PM, pathtoninja said: Personally, I treat every game cautiously along with factoring in the history of the dev team/publisher and make my own decision. This^ I have zero problems with pre-ordering any game, especially if it's something I have been looking forward to for ages but I tend to only do so when it's a developer/publisher who I've found to be trustworthy and fixes post-launch issues ASAP. If I get catfished and the game turns out to be a disappointment, then that developer/publisher goes on notice and I don't pre-order anything from them again until they've re-earned my trust. I fully agree with everything else you said as well, especially about the variables that lead to a botched launch. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhinandhan22 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, MrTacoNinja said: I downloaded this game months ago when they fucked up and listed it as free on the Malaysian store. All the stuff I've read has kept me away from this game. I literally just said fuck it and booted it up 2 seconds ago. Here's hoping I don't regret it. In the same boat, playing Mafia 1 now and thinking of playing Mafia 2 after this. Loved the original years ago but am worried about replaying knowing the state of the remake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyswfc9 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Im so happy mafia 1 remake is alot better than mafia 2. Ive already played mafia 2 recently so looking forward to just picking up mafia 1 one day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoNinja Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Is it just me or are the colors in the Mafia II remaster drab and lifeless as hell? During cutscenes it's okay but when I'm out and about in the open world it's almost as if I was playing it on a black and white television. It's certainly not my tv settings, it's the game. Anyone else notice this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoNinja Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Jesus man the framerate is terrible and the constant lag spikes are getting annoying. You're right man, this game performs like hot shit. ....aaaaand I just went straight through the road to an endless plomet. Wow, what an absolute piece of shit this game is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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