Let's face it, we were sold an unfinished game

[skazzzz4]

This needed more time in development, but it was released anyway because MONEY.  They know people will buy it on name alone.

 

EDIT: If you want my full opinion feel free to go here: HERE

 

-Bugs everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Trophies, missions, costumes, challenge cards, cut-scenes. This was not play tested properly.

 

-Lackluster story.

 

-No option to replay campaign missions.

 

-Just 3 villains.  Only 2 replayable.

 

-Only 5 objective types repeated over and over and over.

 

-Factions that don't do anything

 

-Boring loot system, loot doesn't appear on characters.

 

 

Maybe it will get better later but that doesn't matter. It was released now and should be a complete game now.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by skazzzz4

[OverHypedG]

And when you think that original releasedate was back in April...huh  

[Helyx]

We've all been down this road and some of us have learned our lesson. Is this your first time?

 

[skazzzz4]

6 minutes ago, Helyx said:

We've all been down this road and some of us have learned our lesson. Is this your first time?

 

 

I knew, I knew. I played the beta. I thought the final product would be better.

 

I rolled the dice and took a chance.  I trusted Square Enix, but this is not great.

[KingGuy420]

You weren't sold an unfinished game. You were sold a loot based game. Every single one of them launches in this state. But 12-18 months from now, it'll have more content than 95% of the games on the market. 2-3 years from now it'll have be an incredible game with an impossible amount of content.

 

This is how the genre works, and has almost a decade now. If you expected anything more, that's on you for not paying attention.

[Helyx]

1 minute ago, skazzzz4 said:

I thought the final product would be better.

 

It hurts, I know. Thanks to shit like this, I don't pre-order games. I won't purchase a product 'Day-1'. Anything that has some type of Season Pass or 'Content Roadmap', I will not purchase (unless a functional all-in-one GoTY is available at a huge discount). Get it right the first time, or I'll spend my money elsewhere.

[skazzzz4]

Just now, KingGuy420 said:

You weren't sold an unfinished game. You were sold a loot based game. Every single one of them launches in this state. But 12-18 months from now, it'll have more content than 95% of the games on the market. 2-3 years from now it'll have be an incredible game with an impossible amount of content.

 

This is how the genre works, and has almost a decade now. If you expected anything more, that's on you for not paying attention.

Diablo 3 was a complete game. So was Minecraft dungeons.  Those are loot games. How about World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy 14? Complete games.

 

You're lying to yourself buddy.

[ObsceneSociopath]

18 minutes ago, skazzzz4 said:

This needed more time in development, but it was released anyway because MONEY.  They know people will buy it on name alone.

 

 

-Bugs everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Trophies, missions, costumes, challenge cards, cut-scenes. This was not play tested properly.

 

-Lackluster story.

 

-No option to replay campaign missions.

 

-Just 3 villains.  Only 2 replayable.

 

-Only 5 objective types repeated over and over and over.

 

-Factions that don't do anything

 

-Boring loot system, loot doesn't appear on characters.

 

 

Maybe it will get better later but that doesn't matter. It was released now and should be a complete game now.

 

 

 

 

I'll address your points in the order you've posted them:

 

Your forgetting that the game was finished with a lot of the devs working from home due to Covid-19, the fact that they still managed to meet the release date despite that was impressive. Also because of Covid-19 they had to rely on the Public Betas for play testing & we only had access to a small portion of the content so its no surprise things slipped through.

 

The story campaign is actually one of the highlights of the game, the characters are well written & the dialogue feels almost like it was lifted directly from its source material it's that faithful to its characters. Just because you didn't enjoy the story doesn't mean everyone else hasn't.

 

I  actually agree with it being an issue that the campaign isn't replayable but that is something the devs have said they plan to address.

 

More villains will be arriving at a later date (if your familiar with the comics/lore you will know what the statue fired out during the ending is setting up & what Monica was referring to in the scene after the first set of credits) most likely with the content thats coming for the Factions you've deemed useless.

They've said from the get go & during all the War Tables that Factions will be playing a large part of the endgame with content to come such as Raids & possibly even PvP.

 

Why would the loot appear on characters? We get full skin swaps instead. While some are just reskins, all of the different appearances are based on or even a direct use of outfits that they've worn in the comics, Iron Man by far being the best example of that with some of them even having the name of the storyline they are from as the name of the suit such as his Original Sin Armour. We are playing as existing famous Marvel Heroes, not custom characters, it would make no sense for them to be running around in random outfits made of different pieces.

 

The loot system could use some improvement yes, but its far from as bad as your making it out to be, its actually comparable to loot systems like Diablo 3's, just on a smaller scale.

 

If you really don't like the game, trade it in or sell it while it still holds good value, don't come on a forum just to run it down with an uninformed biased opinion.

[Dr_Mayus]

1 hour ago, skazzzz4 said:

Diablo 3 was a complete game. So was Minecraft dungeons.  Those are loot games. How about World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy 14? Complete games.

 

You're lying to yourself buddy.

Do you remember the FF14 launch? The ceo had to come out and applogize for the game.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Dr_Mayus

[KingGuy420]

Just now, skazzzz4 said:

Diablo 3 was a complete game. So was Minecraft dungeons.  Those are loot games. How about World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy 14? Complete games.

 

You're lying to yourself buddy.

 

Diablo 3 was hated at launch due to a severe lack of end game (which it literally had 0) and crap loot. Avengers is a miracle of gaming compared to launch D3. Until loot 2.0 and RoS came out, Diablo 3 was absolutely hated.

 

Even Minecraft Dungeon, I see people complaining about both of those things 

 

And as far as FF14, People hated the first version of that so much that Square scrapped the whole thing and started from scratch.

 

As for WoW, that was at a time when there was nothing else to compare it to. It was groundbreaking and revolutionary... But if an MMO launched with that much content today it would be maligned.

 

I'm not lying to myself, it's just that loot games are my favorite genre... by a mile. I understand how they work at this point.

[skazzzz4]

1 minute ago, Dr_Mayus said:

Do you remember the FF14 launch? The ceo had to come out and applogize for the game.

Well, the second, true launch.  

 

They did make up for it, they admitted they F'd up.  They shut it down and fixed everything.

 

I don't see them doing that with this game.

[Lonemankane]

Well at the end of it all games now seem to come out in a broken state, it is one of the reasons why people love ghost of tsushima. As that game was basically a finished game and the only things that they needed to fixed was the super fast load screens barely giving you any time to read the tips along with items not popping up where they are meant to be, yes there is bugs but it is not super glitchy like say fallout 76 or 7 days to die.

 

Edit. As another note to add to it. most of all new games now are like this, with game breaking bugs and bugs in general, I feel old when I say it but back in the ps2 days and earlier ps3 days and middle part of the ps3. Most of the games work well with nearly no bugs. Now, it is get it out even thought it is broken and even if it is rushed, they don't care due to the fact they get your money. It is a damn anyone who dares say anything wrong about it as we just want that sweet money you all have. Now adays it is hard to see real devs and publishers work to make the games have no bugs or play test it completely so things are fair and even handed then one sided or unfair and so on.

Edited September 13, 2020 by KANERKB

[dakk55]

Honestly, I haven't preordered any games since Duke Nukem Forever. So I learned my lesson a long time ago when a game release to wait 3 months to see if the hype dies down or if it's still being praised. If people are still talking about the game with good opinion on it, then I might think about buying it when it goes on sale. I haven't bought any games priced over $30 for years.

 

 

Edited September 13, 2020 by dakk55

[KIERONOO]

I’ll be honest I bought it for avengers, to play as iron man and I wanted a looter game. I’m enjoying my time but yeah I’ve never ever played such a buggy mess in my life, makes assassins creed unity look tame 

Edited September 13, 2020 by KIERONOO

[TJ_Solo]

1 hour ago, skazzzz4 said:

Diablo 3 was a complete game. So was Minecraft dungeons.  Those are loot games. How about World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy 14? Complete games.

 

You're lying to yourself buddy.

 

The console port of the original PC launch of D3? The two are drastically different then what you have now. 

Minecraft dungeons launched with a placeorder and ad for DLC.

 

Edited September 13, 2020 by TJ_Solo

[marine75364007]

1 hour ago, Helyx said:

 

It hurts, I know. Thanks to shit like this, I don't pre-order games. I won't purchase a product 'Day-1'. Anything that has some type of Season Pass or 'Content Roadmap', I will not purchase (unless a functional all-in-one GoTY is available at a huge discount). Get it right the first time, or I'll spend my money elsewhere.

There's no season pass for this game. All of the content that's coming to the game will be free of charge. 

[Helyx]

8 minutes ago, marine75364007 said:

There's no season pass for this game. All of the content that's coming to the game will be free of charge. 

 

Yeah, I get it. It was more of a blanket remark for all games past, present and future.

[Pirelli913]

2 hours ago, skazzzz4 said:

-Boring loot system, loot doesn't appear on characters.

 

Loot was never supposed to appear on characters. They're supposed to boost stats. Skins appear on characters and their purpose was to change appearance.

 

I will agree that it'd be cool if you could mix and match certain pieces of skins like chest, arms, legs, head, but I'm not gonna complain that something that was meant to boost stats doesn't physically appear on the character.

[aZombieDictator]

Buying a AAA title is pretty much always buying an unfinished game.

 

They all have the release now patch later mindset.

 

And yes there are some that are complete at launch, but majority are released unfinished. 

[NxtDoc]

I know experiences vary nowadays in games but..

 

My crew of 4 including me have run into very few bugs.

 

Trophies have unlocked fine for all of us.

 

Story is solid, worst part was not being able to be the character I wanted to be.

 

I absolutely love the loot system.  As nothing is worse than having a better piece of gear and hate its appearance.  I personally have used a lesser gear item in other looters or RPG's because of the appearance or weapon type.  Like Division and all I want is a Vector or Sniper Rifle, and I am getting fricken LMG's and Shotguns.  No thanks, I'll stick with the weapon I want.  

 

As far as games releasing unfinished, I think Marvel's Avengers released better than Destiny 1, Anthem, Wildlands, and 76.  I know that isn't sayin much.  However, my experience has been near flawless.  Yes, more needs to come.  But that's what all of you "Games as a Service", "Live Service" fans have deemed acceptable.  

 

Most of you have maid this bed, now lay in it.  

Edited September 13, 2020 by NxtDoc
Spell check

[mikem192]

9 hours ago, NxtDoc said:

I know experiences vary nowadays in games but..

 

My crew of 4 including me have run into very few bugs.

 

Trophies have unlocked fine for all of us.

 

Story is solid, worst part was not being able to be the character I wanted to be.

 

I absolutely love the loot system.  As nothing is worse than having a better piece of gear and hate its appearance.  I personally have used a lesser gear item in other looters or RPG's because of the appearance or weapon type.  Like Division and all I want is a Vector or Sniper Rifle, and I am getting fricken LMG's and Shotguns.  No thanks, I'll stick with the weapon I want.  

 

As far as games releasing unfinished, I think Marvel's Avengers released better than Destiny 1, Anthem, Wildlands, and 76.  I know that isn't sayin much.  However, my experience has been near flawless.  Yes, more needs to come.  But that's what all of you "Games as a Service", "Live Service" fans have deemed acceptable.  

 

Most of you have maid this bed, now lay in it.  

Personally I’ve not experienced any problems. Odd glitch here and there but nothing game breaking and I agree the story was amazing. 
 

I have to agree with the OP though, the post game is getting boring pretty quickly. Even Destiny/Division would keep me interested for a few months after each update. Just over a week in on this and I’m feeling the chore already. Only two bosses? On repeat? Boring 
 

Having said that I’m excited for the games future, the endless directions it could go, all the characters and story arcs they could choose. It’s the start of a much bigger picture and will only get better. I just hope they put their focus into polishing up the game better 

[Conor]

Games as a Service is a scam, at least in the way most companies implement it. Imagine fifteen years ago being told that a publisher was going to intentionally ship a half-cooked game for full price but they pinky-promise it will be better in 12 months, just buy it now and trust them. And it isn't as if they hide it either, yet folks buy into it anyway. 

 

Also, everyone here saying that the game will be awesome in a few months/ years will eat those words when the playerbase dwindles down to nothing as absolutely nothing of substance gets released and the game goes out with a whimper just like Anthem. 

Edited March 28, 2021 by Stan Lee

[HoorayForTyler]

When finished games get released (such as Ghost of Tsushima, God of War for examples), the bar is set pretty high with new AAA releases, especially when they have a big name to go off of too. The force fed advertising almost made us believe without a doubt it was going to be a finished game, but that’s just the misleading marketing for you. You can never fully trust making a day 1 purchase anymore, but early play testing for this game and getting a feel for it in beta should’ve been enough to get a grasp of what they were going to put out. I feel bad for those who paid $60 for this.

[Brrrrrradislava]

12 hours ago, KingGuy420 said:

You weren't sold an unfinished game. You were sold a loot based game. Every single one of them launches in this state. But 12-18 months from now, it'll have more content than 95% of the games on the market. 2-3 years from now it'll have be an incredible game with an impossible amount of content.

 

This is how the genre works, and has almost a decade now. If you expected anything more, that's on you for not paying attention.

This reminds me of the No man's sky treatment.  I heard the game is great now.  I held back on buying the Avengers game...patience!!

[MatThaRiPP3R84]

everyone knew this game would be shit. because it looked it right from the start, the beta comes out and everyone says it's boring and copying anthem. destiny was boring but even that looked like it had more going for it then this shitty game so u get what u pay for.

 

just add a variable to your life. IF Live Service Game = DO NOT BUY.