Great game that left a really bad taste halfway through.

[MaliceJJ 6]

Storyline spoilers ahead for those who don’t want anything ruined for them. 
 

Ok I was super excited for this game. Only really saw any preview content about a week before release so my excitement wasn’t built on hype. Bought it and absolutely loved it. Solid 9/10 and up there with some of my favourite games easily. Until that cut scene...

 

I had a quick look through the forums to see if this annoyed anyone else but it could just be me. Jin infiltrates his uncles captured castle defeating everyone and being an absolute wrecking machine and gets knock the f-out in a cut scene!!!

 

I absolutely hated this plot device and it seriously soured the game from then onwards. It halved my enjoyment to about a 5/10 for the rest of the game. It’s such a tired and over worked trope which pissed me off no end. It really hate contrived storytelling like this. I was going to say it’s deus ex machina but that’s not the right thing but I think you know what I mean.

 

Did anyone else have this same reaction? I think it’s sloppy and weak on the part of the developers to use cheap plot devices like that. 

[caseyelsie 31]

i think the point was that while he's pretty much as formidable a samurai as there is on the island, he doesn't have eyes on the back on his head. besides it makes a sort of sense in that jin was starting to use less honorable tactics himself in order to free his uncle that he himself should become victim to someone knocking him out from behind. it's not like he has spider sense or eyes in the back of his head. didn't bother me nearly as much as you i guess. 

[SuperSaiyan3985 551]

What're you talking about? When'd he get knocked out? 

[SnizelPS 251]

6 hours ago, SuperSaiyan3985 said:

What're you talking about? When'd he get knocked out? 

Spoiler

After talking to Ryuzo, and he wakes up with Taka.

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by SnizelPS

[SuperSaiyan3985 551]

36 minutes ago, SnizelPS said:

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After talking to Ryuzo, and he wakes up with Taka.

 

I mean I get what you're saying that it's cheap but something like that isn't going to dwell in my head. I loved the story; I don't really scrutinize things like that.

[jasonhendricks88 4]

Even the best people make mistakes.

[Eraezr 531]

Oh yeah, that was a weird moment haha. Maybe he was exhausted or something which had his senses dulled.

 

 

[Lanky-Lemon 33]

I still don't really get why they didn't straight up stab him through his back. After all the trouble he'd caused.

 

Maybe the Khan's arrogance, wanting him alive to torture.

[MyNameIs_Rainman 471]

On 10/7/2020 at 5:50 PM, SnizelPS said:

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After talking to Ryuzo, and he wakes up with Taka.

 

I think it makes sense though. He let his guard down...Ryuzo was someone he grew up around and was a friend, which is why you can see Jin getting a bit emotional and confused about why this is unfolding the way it is. Throughout the story you see moments with Jin being conflicted by his emotion, his honor, and his desire to help the people of Tsushima even if it means sacrificing himself for the greater good. If anything, that's probably the overused trope.

 

But if my best friend betrayed the shit out of me, then yeah im going to be a bit bewildered for a bit, and it's perfectly reasonable for one to assume that you are so caught up in the confusion and emotions that you could easily be blindsided. Idk, it didn't bother me at all.

[ScintillaWolf 80]

Whilst a quick knock out on a formidable warrior may seem cheap, it also proves Jin wasn't infallible. Other moments in the game, namely with Taka, proved this point also. His journey through the game is very much one of learning and changing to the man he is to become, and I just saw this scene as another step on that journey. 

 

I can't imagine a little scene like that could diminish someone's enjoyment of the game to such a degree, but each to their own! My favourite game this year.

[yowzagabowza 516]

Remember in the first John Wick movie where the four russian bad guys beat him up almost to death? They should never have been able to do that. 

 

[Komrade_Dusty 7]

I don't really think it was that cheap of a plot device. I actually thought GoT was generally very well written. Sure him getting ambushed and captured isn't the most original plot device ever written, but it's not like there was a major break in logic in what happens. If anything him being a one person wrecking machine is worse from a writing standpoint, but the whole point of the game is for you to be powerful.

[ImMagnetz 503]

Really? THAT knocked the game down to a 5/10 for you?😂

[Cthulu-72 71]

Yeah I remember that, and it did kind of make me go wtf?

 

But, you could see how he would be distracted when you consider...

Spoiler

...this is his oldest friend who has totally betrayed him, he is more emotionally involved with the situation thank usual, and might have had temporary tunnel-vision.

 

It didn't stick in my craw, though. The game is great and I did enjoy the story.

[TalalHmd 193]

it's a game

[Railshock 16]

You can't be serious lmao.. That was foreshadowed too when Khan was talking to Ryuzo about setting a trap for Jin, so it should have been expected. If that ruined the game for you then you must have been looking for something to nitpick about it.

[GoDBoss173 228]

On 30.11.2020 at 3:38 AM, ImMagnetz said:

Really? THAT knocked the game down to a 5/10 for you?

 

Now I finally understand why every game ( even the top notch ones) has all those " the game is overrrated/ mediocre, I am disappointed " threads and comments. If something like this (nitpicking at its finest and it is not even an objective "flaw") turns a very good game into a mediocre one, then some people shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion because it is beyond ridiculous. Thats why many player reviews are just as worthless as professional ones.

 

Whats next? "Oh I dont like the colour of the HUD even though the rest of the game is great" ->5/10. Wtf.

[ImMagnetz 503]

21 hours ago, GoDBoss173 said:

 

Now I finally understand why every game ( even the top notch ones) has all those " the game is overrrated/ mediocre, I am disappointed " threads and comments. If something like this (nitpicking at its finest and it is not even an objective "flaw") turns a very good game into a mediocre one, then some people shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion because it is beyond ridiculous. Thats why many player reviews are just as worthless as professional ones.

 

Whats next? "Oh I dont like the colour of the HUD even though the rest of the game is great" ->5/10. Wtf.

 

No pleasing some people.

[ShadowMan12034 10]

You must be a blast to play/watch anything with. Game's still a 9/10

[Helyx 4,591]

Jin has sword. I like swords. I like Jin.

[HeroFangGhetz 25]

This complaint is petty as hell. It's your prerogative if this of all things is what made you enjoy this game less (I've seen people bash games for dumber reasons). But this is a classic trope of the MC maybe one of the most powerful characters in their verse, but even they can drop their guard. Look what happened to Goku in Resurrection of F

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2020 by HeroFangGhetz

[FairyCal 76]

For me this game was a blast. Until now I thought GoT was overhyped, and personally I didn't expected much of it. Sure, Act I was slow and it took me some time, but since Act II until end everything was great. There wasn't game in some time that made my heart race while playing it. I even really enjoyed every sidequest and finding all collectibles. I'm happy that I didn't join hype train, because I'm sure It wouldn't be as fun to play at it was.

And about bashing Jin's head from behind? I've felt it was only natural to happen, because Jin wasn't expecting that Ryuzo could do something like that to him. If it fell to you that it takes enjoinment from you then fine, but I don't think a lot of people will have the same opinion as you.

[YORGOS_PB 92]

I don't even want to ask you about TLoU2. 

And to be honest I didn't even noticed this plot device, now that you mention it would've been "better" if he was captured a couple of extra times but I seriously don't care. I'm still enjoying the hell out of this game. 

[Stan Lee 6,869]

Character: *makes mistake because they are a human person successfully written as a human person*

 

Plot: *something happens to make the plot move along that would of course be seen as highly coincidental in real life but we haven't got all day here*

 

Gamer: "bAd WrItInG!!!1! 5/10!!!"

 

These are very common things I see in threads and even in the occasional YouTube review and I blame the "Everything Wrong With" and CinemaSins videos because their criticisms are often petty and overly nitpicky- the creators themselves admit this- but a lot of people who consume this content have mistaken it for valid criticism and bring this stuff up, which has spilled over into games.