How many platinums do you need for 999?

[Evertonian]

I don't like change but that's probably because I am old

 

I still remember when all this gaming used to be a field

[You]

21 minutes ago, Ekir said:

I'm quite completionist myself, and I've played some awful games but even My name is Mayo gave me some fun, as stupid as that game is. I played way worse trash back when I was a teen, with a 8-bit computer. There was a game company, US Gold (ironically they were british), that half the games they did/ported were the absolute worst. And even so, I'm not going to play Ratalaika games if I see they are trashy and made mainly for trophy hunters as a cash grab.

 

US Gold made some good games though, Mercs and UnSquadron were awesome on my Amiga. Way better than some games in the mid 90s and were one disk too.

[Asmund]

It's odd, I went from 35 to 467. Was like oh god what glitched and is it permanent. I don't like these inflated numbers though. Why couldn't they keep it on a 1-100 scale but do whatever changes etc. OCD I guess....100 is more appealing than 999.

So in the case of Hakoom....?. Somewhere in the 4,000s?

Edit: Wait it would be much higher because of how many platinums he has..holy crap.

Edited October 8, 2020 by Asmund89

[ShadyWARcotix]

55 minutes ago, pinkrobot_pb said:

 

It's a little better concerning the cap, but there is still a cap in this new system and a lot of people from the top of the leaderboards will reach it now without doing anything. They could have simply increased the max level to 999 instead of changing the points needed as well.

 

This change is like saying: "I will pay you in cents instead of dollars from now on. You will not have more money, but at least the number will be higher.".

 

My idea would have been: gueesstimate the number of games for PS5 and PS6 and how many trophy points that would be. Add the total number of trophy points for past consoles with trophy support. Maybe split by region and average those numbers out. There, that's your level 999. It would have been arbitrary, but it would be closer to something that would make some sense.

 

Also, there should have been a level 1000 of course. Why the hell stop at 999....?

 

yeah.. I understand what you saying and people like Hakoom etc. are again on the level cap.. 

I like your idea.. But we can't change anything right?

 

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by ShadyWARcotix

[Ekir]

7 minutes ago, enaysoft said:

 

US Gold made some good games though, Mercs and UnSquadron were awesome on my Amiga. Way better than some games in the mid 90s and were one disk too.

 

I know, I played Mercs on Amiga and it was amazing. That's why I said half the games they did, because as much as I hate them *ahem* some of their games were good.

 

Did you play their Street Fighter 2 port though?

 

 

[AJ_Radio]

1 hour ago, dannyswfc9 said:

Its really really not. You could say the same about everything in life. You are born, then eventually you die. Then everything inbetween becomes pointless if you have your thinking. Like most of the enjoyable things in life, trophy hunting is a hobby. If your enjoying it, it defo isnt pointless.

 

With all the stress in life especially this year, imo one of the best feelings is getting that plat to pop. Videogames are a brilliant way to take your mind off reality for a few hours a least and if it gets you some kind of reward at the end even if its just a virtual one. Its all good in my book

 

You have to make up the most in your life. Life isn't fair and it never will be.

 

The moment I decide trophy hunting as a whole is worthless I will quit. I've gave up on a number of things in life because I felt they were no longer worth pursuing. This is no different.

 

1 hour ago, enaysoft said:

It works both ways actually. On here, stats are not included unless you have AT LEAST one trophy, which makes hard games easier to find higher stats sometimes

For example on Bloodborne, you have a very high entry just to get your first trophy, like you have to kill at least one boss to even get online coop working. It's a huge hurdle to entry, which means many thousands of people who couldn't don't get included. That's why BloodBorne platinum is so high percent. If you've had the skills of determination to kill the first boss then you're likely good enough to complete the whole game. At the very least you can unlock coop after the 1st boss.

 

It is difficult to judge Bloodborne. Those stats are very skewed because a lot of people jumped ship from Xbox to PS4, in fact a couple friends of mine in real life bought a PS4 just to play Bloodborne. However, because I loved the game so much I got everything including the DLC done in just over a week. No online co-op help or anything, basically did it solo with NPCs to help out on the more difficult bosses.

 

I will consider Nioh, Nioh 2 and Sekiro to have even higher entries for a first trophy. The trophy rarities throw a lot of people off. I've played plenty of indie games that had much lower percentages that were maybe a 3 or 4 out of 10 in difficulty at worst. Doesn't mean they were hard or bad, they just mean many people simply played the game for a bit, earned a trophy or two, then left them forever.

 

PS Plus games always get this treatment.

 

50 minutes ago, Ekir said:

I'm quite completionist myself, and I've played some awful games but even My name is Mayo gave me some fun, as stupid as that game is. I played way worse trash back when I was a teen, with a 8-bit computer. There was a game company, US Gold (ironically they were british), that half the games they did/ported were the absolute worst. And even so, I'm not going to play Ratalaika games if I see they are trashy and made mainly for trophy hunters as a cash grab.

 

It made more sense to rent games back then.

 

I played some absolute stinkers on the NES and Sega Mega Drive/Genesis. Ratalaika is better because those games actually work. The games from times past were broken and because there was no online integration back then, you were stuck with those shitty games.

 

Those game companies of old are gone, and probably good they went down.

[XXIIlII]

No offense but that's stupid.

Do you also aim to reach the max rank in every multiplayer game you play?

[sh4d0wzcs]

All of them.

[DF007gamer]

7 hours ago, mvpeast said:

Okay so I lost a lot of levels from this update. That means getting the platinum badge will cost even more money and it’s absolutely ridiculous.. I was almost 85 now bumped down all the way to 734.

I don’t like this update at all personally because there are even more reasons to play 1-hour platinums now if you want to reach that cap.

 

It’s just not worth it. Only a couple hundred people in the whole world will get that platinum badge and for what. It’s just suffering.

 

Edit: Ok so level 130 old level = 900 new level. The guy has 800 platinums. So it’s safe to say that platinum rank level 999 need at least 1100-1200 platinums to reach.

 

 

I have 167 platinums and I'm on LEVEL 512 

[SnowxSakura]

6 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

The trophy system was implemented in 2008 as a response to Xbox introducing their achievement system back in 2005. 12 years is all, and I've been gaming for far longer than some people on these forums have been alive.

 

What I'm upset with was this change was sudden. There was no warning, no notification, no message in our inbox telling us there will be a change to this system.

 

Now if they were going to introduce this change right with the launch of the PS5 I would of been happier about this. There will be a lot happening between now and the launch of the new console, so logically, I think it would of made sense to prepare people ahead of time that there will be a new trophy system implemented to try to convince new people to hunt for trophies. Realistically, trophy hunters have always been a small minority. Out of dozens of friends I've had in person who play or had played on the PS4, only one or two of them cared about trophies.

 

I don't know why Sony implemented this change now. Nobody knows. But it was just stupid to just throw this out there and suddenly most of everyone has PSN levels in the hundreds. Having level 999 be given a platinum trophy image is just the shit icing on the cake.

 

Now any casual player can easily reach PSN level 100. Now this just makes it where gaining levels feels empty and utterly pointless.

I mean, it was already pointless to begin with

[ladynadiad]

20 minutes ago, DF007gamer said:

I have 167 platinums and I'm on LEVEL 512 

 

So what I find funny is I have 177 platinums and I'm level 479.  Of course you have some 3000 more trophies than me.  Platinums still aren't going to be the full picture, but just like the previous system, having more plats is going to allow someone to get the higher levels with the least amount of trophies.  I know I'm very often the person with the least amount of trophies for the level of trophy XP I have just because my completion is high.

 

Honestly, I barely even see how this changes things much other than giving people a higher number next to their profile.  The people who cared too much about that number will continue to do so and those who didn't care will continue to not care.  In the end what really matters is if we're having fun, not how many plats we're popping and what shiny badge we have on our profile.

[Lordidude]

3 hours ago, Puppeter04 said:

Getting trophies is not your job, is Hakoom's for example, he can eat thanks to this and other related things.

His dead eyes and the fact that this is his job is something no one is jealous about.

[JackisJack_]

This thread is filled with some of the most basic, weird ass "back in my day gaming blah blah" yet somehow simultaneously, this awkwardly Nihilistic outlook of "trophy hunting is stupid anyways" from people who ironically enough have like 200 or more platinum trophies on their account, and it is so incredibly painful to read.

 

At the end of the day, you're all keyboard smashing over an update that has no effect on how you should personally feel about what you enjoy trophies most for, or gaming in general. Stop acting like you're better than anybody else by gatekeeping trophy hunting or talking about where your "respect" goes on somebody's profile based around their trophies or games. 

 

If you like the update, neat! If you hate it, neat! But good God is it so hilariously ironic when people start calling other people no-lifes or casual gamers because of the way they like to trophy hunt and/or play games. You guys need to stop sitting here and acting like you're any better than anybody else on this forum because you all either have a shit ton of trophies, or way too many angry forum posts to count.

 

This website sometimes man, lmfao

[AJ_Radio]

1 hour ago, SnowxSakura said:

I mean, it was already pointless to begin with

 

I can go the extra step and say gaming is pointless to begin with. If you enjoy it, then it doesn't matter what other people think.

 

43 minutes ago, ladynadiad said:

I know I'm very often the person with the least amount of trophies for the level of trophy XP I have just because my completion is high.

 

People with a high amount of gold trophies can each a higher rank with less trophies in general. Just assigning a bunch of gold and silver trophies to a game and making them overly easy basically contributed to the devaluation of the trophy system.

 

The trophy lists of old from the early PS3 days and the trophy lists of today are wildly different. Most PSN games didn't get a platinum trophy, Hannah Montana wasn't a game that was beaten in under a hour with over 10 gold trophies. Today you can basically stack 3 - 6 overly easy games with little effort.

 

So meh. Don't really care about the raw trophy count, raw trophy level or raw platinum count, because none of it is worth much of anything to me.

[MikeCheck--]

Bruh who *forces* themselves to play games they don't enjoy? Stop playing Rat games, quick platinums and games like them. Video gaming, at it's core, is supposed to be a fun distraction from reality or an immersive story and world . . . not a stress inducing task or chore.

 

Could I bump my level by stacking and playing easy games by spending money and time? Yes. Would anyone care about my level other than me? No.. 

 

Play games you enjoy, do your research and limit Plats to games you feel are reasonable AND you would enjoy. Case closed. The grind to 999 will be a bit more than to 100 and that is fine. Personally I don't like the MASSIVE level upscale but I also didn't like taking 1-3 months of gaming to go up one level. 

3 hours ago, scemopagliaccioh said:

So uhh, what's the number of points bronze, silver, gold and plat give now?

The same, just leveling point requirements are much much lower

Edited October 8, 2020 by MikeCheck--

[NathanielJohn]

3 hours ago, scemopagliaccioh said:

So uhh, what's the number of points bronze, silver, gold and plat give now?

 

The only change is that platinums are now worth 300 points instead of 180. I did a full breakdown of the new formula here: 

 

[AJ_Radio]

20 minutes ago, MikeCheck-- said:

Could I bump my level by stacking and playing easy games by spending money and time? Yes. Would anyone care about my level other than me? No..

 

It's playing the numbers game. Honestly I can do that too, I could add 10,000 trophies to my account in probably five, six months time by stacking a whole bunch of those really quick platinums. I just decided not to, because I find it boring.

 

I probably would of quit trophy hunting afterwards.

[MikeCheck--]

34 minutes ago, Spaz said:

 

It's playing the numbers game. Honestly I can do that too, I could add 10,000 trophies to my account in probably five, six months time by stacking a whole bunch of those really quick platinums. I just decided not to, because I find it boring.

 

I probably would of quit trophy hunting afterwards.

Exactly!

[Berzerkgod313]

7 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

Less than 99.9 percent of active trophy hunters will reach that level 999 cap, so I wouldn't even try. Plus you need thousands of dollars to spend on even with PS Now handing out a bunch of games.

 

It's purely a numbers game, one that isn't all that rewarding nonetheless. The only numbers I care about really are rarity statistics in trophies. I give the guys who hunt ultra rares more respect than the guys simply boosting their trophy level count.

 

Exactly, i care more if you have the Super Meat Boy plat then 1000 1 hour plats, anyone could do that if they have no wife, kids, job. I personally play the games i want to play, never worry about the trophy level, i have 175 plats, but couldn't tell you if i'm level 10, 25, 50? whats the point of having a number showing you the number of shitty games you've completed? i've completed 175 games that i've enjoyed and am proud of (albeit maybe 2 or 3),but id rather that then 1000 games i didn't, and there's not a single person who will reach that cap by only playing games they like, its impossible (unless your sadistic and actually enjoy all those shitty games) so anyone who has that platinum icon that everyone's so worried about, only tells most people that you have no life, enjoy shitty games, and enjoy wasting money (which by all means is fine if that's what you want, but just putting it out there). 

 

For people who actually enjoy playing games and earning trophies on those games AND care about their level, they will actually benefit from this change more as before completing a hard game like binding of isaac would barely give you any kind of bump in your level, but now, it will actually feel like all the hard work and time you put into completing that game actually made a difference. So of course its not going to feel rewarding when you spend 1 hour platting a game with one hand while watching porn and jerking off with the other and earning a few levels as opposed to spending 100 hours on a plat and earning a level or 2, because that will feel rewarding, all of you who are complaining about progression being meaningless now should try it.

 

[melodicmizery]

9 hours ago, mako-heart said:

 

I think it really depends on the amount of Plats, based from Sony's release. So even if someone is 24, what if they have no Plats? Probably not going to get the same type of boost.

so your saying they are ignoring the point system now and counting platinums only?

i finished all the dead island dlc this morning and then hurried up and did a 100% run on a quick easy game that had 13 trophies.
i went from 80% on level 588
to                     1% level 589 
no platinums, just 23 total trophies

9 hours ago, Nitro said:

I forgot about that video

But yeah, I guess at that point, I couldn't buy a lot because I didn't have an income. But now I do

hah hey nitro, i just defended you on twitter yesterday when people were complaining about you having no life. nice to come across another hunter on twitter shit show. i recognized the hamburger thing whatever the hell it is. i think from atari

[mvpeast]

I did a little comparison just now.. Someone on my friend list was level 47, now level 564. I was level 85, now level 734.

 

47 —> 564

85 —> 734

 

So the higher level u r, the less exp u get. This update is giving a middle finger directly to people that put in a lot of efforts and dedications in trophy hunting. It’s a brilliant idea.

Edited October 8, 2020 by mvpeast

[AJ_Radio]

5 minutes ago, mvpeast said:

This update is giving a middle finger directly to people that put in a lot of efforts and dedications in trophy hunting. It’s a brilliant idea.

 

I don't think anyone has made all the calculations regarding this just yet.

 

Sony I feel did this change to cater to those who care about the number count, but they instead got them more disgruntled.

[DaivRules]

10 minutes ago, mvpeast said:

I did a little comparison just now.. Someone on my friend list was level 47, now level 564. I was level 85, now level 734.

 

47 —> 564

85 —> 734

 

So the higher level u r, the less exp u get. This update is giving a middle finger directly to people that put in a lot of efforts and dedications in trophy hunting. It’s a brilliant idea.

 

No, you're looking at it wrong. Once you hit level 300, it's all the same points to go to the next level, all the way to 999. It's not just about previous level and new level. The points for platinums changed from 180 to 300.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Spaz said:

I don't think anyone has made all the calculations regarding this just yet.

 

[Puppeter04]

3 hours ago, Lordidude said:

His dead eyes and the fact that this is his job is something no one is jealous about.

did I say we are? gaming is fun, we shouldn't turn it into torture

[mvpeast]

3 minutes ago, Puppeter04 said:

did I say we are? gaming is fun, we shouldn't turn it into torture

I am done chasing the leaderboard. I just want to get level 800 and be done with it. 999 is way too much for me.