JFL_Leon Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I find this so bloody annoying I can't believe it. So me and a friend were boosting battlefield hardline kill related trophies and the he got banned for trophy boosting how is this even a thing! What makes this worse was we were doing it in a rented server and we were not even affecting any other people. What fo you guys think of this issue. This had personally put me off trophy hunting and makes me not want to do it anymore ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorElfenSky Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Banned from PSN or from BFH specifically? In any case, especially given you guys paid for your own server I think it's ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFL_Leon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, EmperorElfenSky said: Banned from PSN or from BFH specifically? In any case, especially given you guys paid for your own server I think it's ridiculous. Whole of psn lost everything!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporty_chin8 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 For battlefield hardline?! Wtf, there have been 2 battlefield games released since this one (about to be 3 in the next year possibly) and people are getting banned for this? People are so kruddy. I’m honestly surprised they still give a shit about this game. Were you playing the ps3 or ps4 copy? Because thats another thing... ps3 is not supported anymore so for sony to do anything about people boosting in ps3 games is unbelievable. We are approaching the next generation of consoles. Even on ps4 it would sound ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shadiochao Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 Are you sure it was for trophy boosting or is that just what you assumed because it's what you were doing at the time? I was under the impression that Sony rarely ever tell people what they get banned for. And if that was the reason, surely the person they were boosting with would get banned at the same time. 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naji-Leonhart Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I can't believe it. Are you sure it was for boosting? I mean it could be another reason as well... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFL_Leon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, sporty_chin8 said: For battlefield hardline?! Wtf, there have been 2 battlefield games released since this one (about to be 3 in the next year possibly) and people are getting banned for this? People are so kruddy. I’m honestly surprised they still give a shit about this game. Were you playing the ps3 or ps4 copy? Because thats another thing... ps3 is not supported anymore so for sony to do anything about people boosting in ps3 games is unbelievable. We are approaching the next generation of consoles. Even on ps4 it would sound ridiculous. Ps3... 5 minutes ago, Shadiochao said: Are you sure it was for trophy boosting or is that just what you assumed because it's what you were doing at the time? I was under the impression that Sony rarely ever tell people what they get banned for. And if that was the reason, surely the person they were boosting with would get banned at the same time. My friend called playstation support and they told him that someone reported him and said it was because of trophy boosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyChief Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Yeah, something more there. Don’t abandon the hunt. That’s blasphemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EmperorElfenSky Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) ... But trophy boosting is not against TOS... Is it? You're not hacking the game, its servers or PSN, you're using in-game systems to earn trophies. What the fuck, Sony. Otherwise I think we all will have to majorly adjust our behavior online ??? Edit: Reading through the terms of service, this is the only part the remotely mentions trophies (there are two other mentions but they relate account termination and trial periods, not relevant to earning them) Quote 5.13. Do not make available any cheats, technological measures, or other methods designed to enable or encourage any collection, selling, or trading of PSN Content, including any virtual currency, goods, or effects such as coins, points, tokens, gold, gems, weapons, vehicles, buffs, power-ups, trophies, rewards, or badges (“Virtual Items”). Do not create or participate in any exploitation of price differences of Virtual Items by any means (for example, between real money currency prices). I do not think boosting can fall under any of this. It's not a cheat (you are just "playing the game") It's not an (external?) technological measure (you are using unmodified PlayStation hardware and software) The only remotely feasible is "other methods", which "organizing a group which enables the collection of PSN content, which includes trophies" can fall under, but that's such a long shot I quite frankly doubt it. Given the last part about not exploiting price differences between regions (alt accounts) and selling hacked content (iirc some dude is selling custom avatars), they're clearly more concerned with people making money rather than actual boosting. Quote Edit: send support an email asking if it's okay to do. We shall see what they answer. Support was entirely unhelpful "if the game does not support online play anymore we can't help you with trophies". I don't think they're even aware what boosting is. I've sent them a follow-up email. The follow has the real answer:As long as you're following the code of conduct, are not using custom firmware or irritating other players, boosting is allowed. I contacted them from my original Dutch account so the reply is in dutch, but I copied the text so you can run it through Google Translate yourselves. Spoiler Beste , Bedankt voor je contact met PlayStation Support. Excuses voor het wachten. Zolang de gedragsregels niet geschonden worden mag dit. Hiermee wilt zeggen dat als je samen werkt om trofeeën te verdienen zonder dat je customfirmware of andere spelers van het platform lastig valt het geen probleem zou zijn. Mocht je nog verdere vragen en/of opmerkingen hebben, dan horen we het graag. Noem daarbij je referentienummer: 201010-007589Met vriendelijke groet, Kevin Player Support Specialist PlayStation Support Spoiler Edited October 13, 2020 by EmperorElfenSky received reply from support 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFL_Leon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, EmperorElfenSky said: ... But trophy boosting is not against TOS... Is it? You're not hacking the game, its servers or PSN, you're using in-game systems to earn trophies. What the fuck, Sony. Otherwise I think we all will have to majorly adjust our behavior online ??? Edit: Reading through the terms of service, this is the only part the remotely mentions trophies (there are two other mentions but they relate account termination and trial periods, not relevant to earning them) I do not think boosting can fall under any of this. It's not a cheat (you are just "playing the game") It's not an (external?) technological measure (you are using unmodified PlayStation hardware and software) The only remotely feasible is "other methods", which "organizing a group which enables the collection of PSN content, which includes trophies" can fall under, but that's such a long shot I quite frankly doubt it. Given the last part about not exploiting price differences between regions (alt accounts) and selling hacked content (iirc some dude is selling custom avatars), they're clearly more concerned with people making money rather than actual boosting. Edit: send support an email asking if it's okay to do. We shall see what they answer. The guys from the playstation support on the phone its classed under exploiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_-_808 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, gamingboy79 said: I find this so bloody annoying I can't believe it. So me and a friend were boosting battlefield hardline kill related trophies and the he got banned for trophy boosting how is this even a thing! What makes this worse was we were doing it in a rented server and we were not even affecting any other people. What fo you guys think of this issue. This had personally put me off trophy hunting and makes me not want to do it anymore If I'm not mistaken, boosting is technically against the ToS in some obscure way. Did you guys kick people off your server while boosting? Odds are one of them got butthurt and reported you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidson2004 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, gamingboy79 said: Whole of psn lost everything!! If that’s the case, then just about everyone on here and around the world should be banned as well. This doesn’t makes sense. Sucks that this happened to your friend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eraezr Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 Nervous chuckle 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonneeD Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 This is concerning if OP's friend really did get banned for boosting. Pretty much everyone on PSNP (and I'm sure a lot of others not on this site) would be at risk of being banned. I'd really like some conclusive proof that boosting is a bannable offense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, sporty_chin8 said: Because thats another thing... ps3 is not supported anymore so for sony to do anything about people boosting in ps3 games is unbelievable. We are approaching the next generation of consoles. Even on ps4 it would sound ridiculous. The PS4 will still be relevant. Not everyone is going to jump on the PS5 launch bandwagon anyway. The PS3 on the other hand is slowly being phased out. Best buy your games and do whatever online you got left before it all becomes too late. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaivRules Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 I’m skeptical we have all the details of this story. 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anke Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Don't we all boost trophies though? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Anke said: Don't we all boost trophies though? Yeah if you jumped on a game years after it's release date or the trophies just aren't feasible to be earned legit. Boosting is the only way to get online in older games now. Even with new games, it's more efficient and quicker to boost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyChief Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Let's jump the gun and play it safe and remove the Gaming Sessions section of this site. NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFL_Leon Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, AJ_-_808 said: If I'm not mistaken, boosting is technically against the ToS in some obscure way. Did you guys kick people off your server while boosting? Odds are one of them got butthurt and reported you. Yeah that's exactly what we did. I rented the server and I can tell you my message log is massive from all the people asking why they have been kicked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anke Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, gamingboy79 said: Yeah that's exactly what we did. I rented the server and I can tell you my message log is massive from all the people asking why they have been kicked There's your issue, someone took offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowlike Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, gamingboy79 said: 45 minutes ago, gamingboy79 said: Yeah that's exactly what we did. I rented the server and I can tell you my message log is massive from all the people asking why they have been kicked And why u made no password on it? No need to kick randoms than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properchief Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 yeah, sounds like the ban is actually for kicking people and them getting upset and reporting it rather than the actual boosting, sounds like if server was locked or nobody was kicked would have been no bans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXIIlII Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Did your friend send you a message on PSN with the words trophy and boosting? That's how my friend got permanently banned. They checked his messages. Even though he was reported for something different (swearing). But they saw his trophy boosting msg which he sent months ago. Edited October 10, 2020 by XXIIlII 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taihou Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Usually boosting games isn't allowed in games like in COD and stuff. It's usually in the games ToS. I didn't think you could banned from PSN for it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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