Popular Post TajoniHD Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) I just wanted to share my opinion. I think most of you already read that you can't buy PS3 and Vita games from the App and the webshop anymore soon. I think that's another step how Sony wants to kill these consoles. One of a lot. Most people (also me) didn't recognize that there were a lot of steps before. For example ending the PS-Plus support for these consoles. But we can't just let them die and in fact it's our decision if it will. If we don't let Sony kill them, they won't. Think about all the games an unearned trophies. Sony will end the support for the PS-Store and the trophies. Maybe in one year, maybe in two, maybe in five. Nobody knows when but they will if we let them. So let's stick together and save these consoles. Look at Microsoft. They support all the Xbox consoles. If we don't to offer resistance they'll continue. They'll kill the PS4, PS5 and even the PS6 one day. Together we can hold up Sony. I will no longer support Sony if they no longer support us and our interests. What about you? Edited October 22, 2020 by TajoniHD 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sikutai Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 Don't let the DREAMCAST die! 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkrobot_pb Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 This is like screaming to not let Michael Jackson die. You would need to dig up his corpse first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aimeraya Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 My PS3 "haven't but want to play" list: FarCry 2 Dante's Inferno Metal Gear Rising Revengeance The House of The Dead Overkill F.E.A.R.2 F.E.A.R.3 Fist Of North Star 2 Way of The Samurai 3 and 4 Drakengard 3 etc. PSV: Shakedown Hawaii Nightcry Secret Of Mana Romancing Saga 2 etc. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandedBerserk Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) Don't know where you got your information from but majority of games and trophies will still be available, you'll just have to buy the games on a slow ass store if you haven't already. Also the vita has been dead for quite some time now but ey goodluck on your grand adventure. Edited October 22, 2020 by BrandedBerserk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Super-Fly Spider-Guy Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, TajoniHD said: I just wanted to share my opinion. I think most of you already read that you can't buy PS3 and Vita games from the App and the webshop anymore soon. I think that's another step how Sony wants to kill these consoles. One of a lot. Most people (also me) didn't recognice that there were a lot of steps before. For example ending the PS-Plus support for these consoles. But we can't just let them die and in fact it's our decision if it will. If we don't let Sony kill them, they won't. Think about all the games an unearned trophies. Sony will end the support fir the PS-Store and the trophies trophies. Maybe in one year, maybe in two, maybe in five. Nobody knows when but they will if we let them. So let's stick together and save these consoles. Look at Microsoft. They support all the Xbox consoles. If we don't to offer resistance they'll continue. They'll kill the PS4, PS5 and even the PS6 one day. Together we can hold up Sony. I will no longer support Sony if they no longer support us and our Interests. What about you? Hi, Xbox Series X AND S preordered day one here, I love me some Xbox, so I'm not a Sony Pony. Buuuuuut, Microsoft doesn't support all the Xbox consoles. They shut down Xbox Live for the original in I wanna say 2009, which is about 8 years after it came out, the PS3 was 2006 and is still going strong 14 years later with regards to online and support. Not to mention the original Xbox didn't let you buy *full* games online either, so there was a shitload less to keep up and running. They have a handful of original Xbox games, 20 something I believe, and around five or six hundred 360 games, that work on Xbox One, that's it, that's not the same as actually supporting the console still, by that logic, Sony is still supporting the PS2 since you can buy a few dozen digital games on PS4, or even as far back as the PS1 since you can still buy PS1 classics on PSP/Vita/PS3. You can still download your 360 games via the website, so I guess that's one single thing Xbox has with regards to support of old consoles over PlayStation. I still play PS2 era games more than any other, I'm all for keeping things alive forever, but there's 2 main things 1. The PS3 hasn't been manufactured in years, keeping it alive on the PSN likely makes them piss all, but they still are anyway and 2. We're going onto the PS5 now, the fact a console from almost a decade and a half ago still has as much support as it does, is honestly impressive in itself PS. Where was this attitude when PSP got it's shit shutdown? You can't go onto the store on there anymore, you HAVE to download it to a PS3 and then copy it over, that's much worse if you ask me. Edited October 22, 2020 by Super-Fly Spider-Guy 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaltezhan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Lets be honest, would you game that much on an old system once you have the shiny new one? When I bought PS4, my PS3 sat for almost two years gathering dust, then I decided to finally finish my old god of war games and sell it. Its gonna happen to my PS4, and to my PS5 one day. I hardly believe Sony would end the PS3 store for generations to come. If you bought software there, and they locked you up, that would make digital games a scam, since you pretty much renting them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pinkrobot_pb Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, kaltezhan said: Lets be honest, would you game that much on an old system once you have the shiny new one? I would and I do. But I know I am not the majority so I can not expect Sony to make business decisions based on that. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukaLaurent Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 It sucks they removed them from the browser store, as that was mainly how I tracked them (through my wishlist, which is also gone for now, damn you Sony). I'm actually playing my PS3 atm, trophy hunting the Metal Gear Solid games, and I'd like to eventually get through the Ratchet & Clank games too on there. Hopefully the store is up and working on there for some time to come. It's just a shame I can't do it all from the browser store. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stig-FD3S Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, pinkrobot_pb said: I would and I do. But I know I am not the majority so I can not expect Sony to make business decisions based on that. Yup. I play on the PS3 and PS Vita more today than my PS4, and I have a PS5 on order as well. The backlog is huge. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, pinkrobot_pb said: I would and I do. But I know I am not the majority so I can not expect Sony to make business decisions based on that. The problem is that it costs them nothing to keep those games up on the previous store for those who want to buy them. Jim Ryan is notorious for his contempt of old consoles and this is him tryin to push that belief onto consumers. Not to mention the current site design is already shit as it doesn't even have all of my PS4 purchases listed in the game library 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteSeattle Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I don’t think many people care. You can still get the classics and get trophy’s what more do you want from a 2006 console Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soraking1991 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I game on Vita every day, and lately I've been going back to PS3 to play some of my quite extensive backlog. Neither of them are going to die for me in the near future due to backlog (more than 60 games on Vita and over 30 on PS3). I'll keep playing both (specially Vita) for as long as the trophies keep syncing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynaVita Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Is there somewhere a petition to get the old ps store alive ? They could let it alive with just ps3 / vita games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pinkrobot_pb Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) On 22-10-2020 at 9:57 AM, majob said: The problem is that it costs them nothing to keep those games up on the previous store for those who want to buy them. Jim Ryan is notorious for his contempt of old consoles and this is him tryin to push that belief onto consumers. Not to mention the current site design is already shit as it doesn't even have all of my PS4 purchases listed in the game library I would also expect it to be a lot of technical issues though. PSN as a whole has been incredibly badly designed from the get go. Every new addition seems to demand shedding incompatible functions from the past. There are numerous examples of this over the years I have been using PlayStations. I honestly would not be surprised if this was yet another example. Porting the old game library to the new store format could very well be a mammoth task not worth the time and money. Take the search function as an example. I am a modest programmer and somwehat of a database designer and even I know that search functions should not work the way it did/does on the old store. It seems more like a huge lookup list that was either compiled from a list of expected search terms or even manufactured by hand. It was useless. Sony has no clue how to code anything other than the consoles themselves. Everything is badly designed and slow as a turtle on a tricycle. The stores are shit, the site is shit, the apps are shit. It's all shit. Edit: just took a look at the new store. It's awful. Who keeps coming up with this this crap? Edited October 23, 2020 by pinkrobot_pb 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saiyanbloodstyle Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Well they have to come to an end sooner rather than later but the PS3 has been around for a long time with the online still up so be grateful it's been up so long, surely the end is near for it. I wouldn't mind if it stayed up forever but can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb5f Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 3:20 AM, pinkrobot_pb said: This is like screaming to not let Michael Jackson die. You would need to dig up his corpse first. In fairness, the PS3 never molested any kids. I understand your analogy but maybe pick a decent human being. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandra-jane09 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I don't actually own a Vita but I still own a PS3, and play games on it from time to time and also need to get trophies and Plats for some. The only ones I cannot complete are The Last of Us and the two Uncharted games because of the servers and LBP Karting too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 9:03 AM, TajoniHD said: For example ending the PS-Plus support for these consoles. No wait, that's not exactly true. They only stopped giving new PS3 games, but Cloud Saving and being able to play previous IGC titles is still possible. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkshepherd Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) The Vita store in the UK is awful. Buuuut, it has so many great games, hidden gems and older ps1/ps2/psp games that i still wanna play from time to time. (Ive lost my psp charger and will not invest in another one, having 1 handheld hold so many libraries, regardless of size is great.) Examples being Jeanne D'Arc, Vagrant Story, Several FF titles, both mainline and more, especially FFT, CC and 6. Also Tactics Ogre and early Persona titles. Plenty of great stories all available on there. Some of us fans still remain. And will continue. Viva la Vita! Edited October 25, 2020 by punkshepherd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkrobot_pb Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 11 hours ago, djb5f said: In fairness, the PS3 never molested any kids. I understand your analogy but maybe pick a decent human being. Okay Jeffrey Eppstein then, or Jimmy Saville. Whatever, still pointless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChenZheCHN Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I don’t think Sony is doing the right thing. While Microsoft tries to make some of your digital purchases “eternal”, Sony chose to shut down the most convenient entrance, the Web Store. Sony is like telling people: “Hey, don’t buy digital games, we will close stores eventually. Buy physical copies, OK?” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The PS3 and Vita have a small selection of people on both, but that still doesn't mean that they are actually dead. You are still free to buy physical for these systems, but anyone looking to buy digital has to go through the consoles themselves. The PS3 Store is an absolute joke, has a high tendency to freeze, forcing me to quit out to the XMB and try again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamPlayer_1999_ Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 2020/10/26 at 5:16 AM, ChenZheCHN said: I don’t think Sony is doing the right thing. While Microsoft tries to make some of your digital purchases “eternal”, Sony chose to shut down the most convenient entrance, the Web Store. Sony is like telling people: “Hey, don’t buy digital games, we will close stores eventually. Buy physical copies, OK?” I know right? I am thinking the same way as you are right there! I think this has to do not just only Sony, but someone who claimed "PS1 and PS2 games look ancient, why would anybody want to play this", few years ago which is none other than Jim Ryan! That fool needs to step down once and for all, and hire someone who has a passion and care about consumer base like how Phil Spencer for Microsoft (Xbox) do! On 2020/10/29 at 6:44 AM, Spaz said: The PS3 and Vita have a small selection of people on both, but that still doesn't mean that they are actually dead. You are still free to buy physical for these systems, but anyone looking to buy digital has to go through the consoles themselves. The PS3 Store is an absolute joke, has a high tendency to freeze, forcing me to quit out to the XMB and try again. At this point, I feel like Sony is being anti-consumer for not only making PS5 backwards compatible with anything beyond PS4, but also shutting down PS3/PS Vita web store! I think they got very cocky over this 8th gen console since they outsold Xbox One by 2 to 1 which is a complete decisive victory for Sony Interactive Entertainment (my opinion could be incorrect, but still) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraezr Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) I don't think Sony is that petty to shut down the trophies. From a business perspective, I can see why they locked out the Vita/PS3 games for purchase on the web PS Store. The more saturated a store is with games, the more spread out the consumer wallets would be across four ecosystems (example, people like me bought a Vita after buying a PS4 because I saw there were Vita games to play). There's actually an entire industry behind this in the capital consumerism market, where corporations engineer how users interact with adverts and products, to present a handmaiden adjusted illusion of choice for the consumer. You know those streaming service buttons on the PS5 media remote? Disney, Netflix and the other two paid a ton of money to Sony to have their placements in those four bidden slots. With the new PS5 launching, Sony wants to present an optimised agency of choice where the newer gamers will have access to software playable on their ninth generation console. If PS3 backwards compatibility had been in the bag, I'm very sure Sony would not have removed its titles from the web store and app. So when new sales are optimised and concentrated to the new ecosystem, investors and third parties will be easier convinced to apply themselves to making, optimisation-priority or porting games for the PlayStation 5. Edited October 30, 2020 by Eraezr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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