AnimeGamerWeeb Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Should not be able to be on the list of first achievers. it's unfair and ruins the entire point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shadiochao Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 It doesn't ruin the point. It's a list that shows who earned a trophy first and that's what it does. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeGamerWeeb Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 Not if someone gets a copy of the game 2 weeks before launch. Anyone with a timestamp before the OFFICIAL release date should be locked out of being in the top 50. It's called being fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickedOutHoro Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 They sound like first achievers to me. ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kittet3 Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just go for the fastest leaderboard. first achieved has no skill involved and is just a "hey cool" thing. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ladynadiad Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 Sounds more like you're just jealous that you couldn't get a review copy or beta test the game. Guess what, stuff is unfair at times. It also sucks that some games get released in some regions before others and have a single list. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draps-1337 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I don't think this will be changed. Going for the fastest achiever might be a better challenge. If that's what you're looking to get from those leaderboards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnonymousPLC1898 Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) This reminds me of those comments on YouTube when people comment “first“ like anyone cares if you are first, try being last lol Edited February 23, 2021 by AnonymousPLC69 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeGamerWeeb Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ladynadiad said: Sounds more like you're just jealous that you couldn't get a review copy or beta test the game. Guess what, stuff is unfair at times. It also sucks that some games get released in some regions before others and have a single list. Why would anyone be jealous that someone can review/beta test a game? Who wants to play an unfinished version of a game? What is fair is. getting the game on release day as it is intended. NOT 2 weeks or a month early. Perhaps it's my autism talking but i like things to do their job, which is not really a thing anymore since the internet has become infected with SJW and PC snowflakes. Just add the internet as another thing mainstream people have ruined. RANT OVER. And off topic but. Does anyone have their digital copy of CS IV working? it will not allow me to download it even though i paid for it weeks ago. Edited October 27, 2020 by AnimeGamerWeeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Being in the first 50 doesn't mean much to me. So I really don't worry about people getting trophies with a time stamp before the official release. As for banning these people from the first achiever list, I couldn't care less either way. IMO, getting into the fastest 50 counts a lot more. Getting the game earlier doesn't give you an advantage there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladynadiad Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, AnimeGamerWeeb said: Why would anyone be jealous that someone can review/beta test a game? Who wants to play an unfinished version of a game? What is fair is. getting the game on release day as it is intended. NOT 2 weeks or a month early. Except most people who have trophies now got them already because they received a review copy of the game or they may have been beta testers. How else do you think that there are already reviews on the localization of this game? And how do we already have an update for version 1.01? Reviewers and beta testers, that's what. It's not an unfinished version of the game. They get a free copy in exchange for posting a review and/or testing to make sure nothing major broke when the English text and audio was inserted. The people who actually purchased the game are just getting their copies this week. For example most of us who preordered LEs from NISA's store got our copies today. Stores typically don't receive copies of the game a month or more before release. Very few stores even will sell this game and most of those stores will not break street dates. Stores that do so get penalized heavily for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeGamerWeeb Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, ladynadiad said: Except most people who have trophies now got them already because they received a review copy of the game or they may have been beta testers. How else do you think that there are already reviews on the localization of this game? And how do we already have an update for version 1.01? Reviewers and beta testers, that's what. It's not an unfinished version of the game. They get a free copy in exchange for posting a review and/or testing to make sure nothing major broke when the English text and audio was inserted. The people who actually purchased the game are just getting their copies this week. For example most of us who preordered LEs from NISA's store got our copies today. Stores typically don't receive copies of the game a month or more before release. Very few stores even will sell this game and most of those stores will not break street dates. Stores that do so get penalized heavily for it. Here i am still waiting for my digital version of CS IV to download since NIS America or Sony is incompetent https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/229684-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iv/79061797 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cckerberos Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Kittet3 said: Just go for the fastest leaderboard. first achieved has no skill involved and is just a "hey cool" thing. Honestly, the fastest leaderboard doesn't really reflect skill, either, as it benefits people who play later. There's no way to have an even playing field for either, so it's best to just not worry about it, IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Bane999 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 It doesn't matter if everyone gets their game on release or not. The first achievers can change. Some of us have placed in the first ten completions or fastest completions for a brand new game. Anyone who has beaten the game before wether a review copy or whatever can still knock you out of the running. Just because when they finally can sync their trophies to the server they still have the date and time placed on them that they earned. We see this alot with Ratalaika games as several people usually get early copies for them to review or produce trophy guides for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post turniplord Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 I got the platinum on the 10th October from a review copy - Beta testers are always internal to the company and work on strictly offline accounts only. Things like 'public betas' are always non-trophy 'demos' which don't register any form of trophies. Early unlocks are always the general public who have got the game early for one reason or another - never for people in the industry testing the game. But yeah, due to the length of the game we got it quite early for review. I'm on the EU list (when it syncs soon) and was first on both the third and fourth game. It may be 'unfair' a little, but I still put in over 130 hours in both games and achieved the trophies long before guides, online help, exploits, or cheats were found and documented, so I feel it's more than fair having the title of being the first in the world on both games (which I was based on PSN stats, not just PSN Profiles). 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauk91 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 hours ago, AnimeGamerWeeb said: Not if someone gets a copy of the game 2 weeks before launch. Anyone with a timestamp before the OFFICIAL release date should be locked out of being in the top 50. It's called being fair. Why? Then they should make the whole system different. Crysis Remastered for example released almost a day after the US release in my country. someone already had plat when i went online and played it. They got it legit and i got it legit, but that wasnt fair, didnt even had the chance to be first. Stop whine and dont care that much. Everything cant be fair all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladynadiad Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AnimeGamerWeeb said: Here i am still waiting for my digital version of CS IV to download since NIS America or Sony is incompetent https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/229684-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iv/79061797 The game releases on 10/27. Outside of big AAA releases it's not out there for a digital game to not be available right at midnight. You'll get it soon enough. Honestly this whole topic just sounds like you're jealous of people who got the game before you. Games don't release at the same time in all regions and platforms. Most games have review copies that go out early so the reviews are ready to go at release. Some games I've played were released in Japan a month or more before the NA release and have a worldwide list. Be glad NA and EU have their own stacks so at least you don't have people who have had the game for 2+ years ahead of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuty Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) After this logic everyone in NA etc. shouldnt be in the first achiever list of any ps5 start title since the ps5 Release earlier as in the EU. I think if we start with this discussion someone will always find a way that something is unfair. Or if someone find as first one a glitch in a game and can platin with this a game much quicker as anyone else Edited October 27, 2020 by Inuty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraezr Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 True trophy hunting competition extends to the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnKay Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 so your saying anyone who plays demon souls on the 12th from the US should be banned from the leaderboard, just because EU players wont have access till the 19th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sepheroithisgod Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I have to agree with the OP, I do think anyone that pops a trophy before an official street date in their region should not appear on the first achiever's list. everyone should be on an equal playing field when it comes to things like this. for example, https://psnprofiles.com/trophy/8127-dragon-quest-xi-echoes-of-an-elusive-age/1-living-legend I am 14 on the list on this one and a few people ahead of me got the game much earlier than me, it completely defeats the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnKay Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, sepheroithisgod said: I have to agree with the OP, I do think anyone that pops a trophy before an official street date in their region should not appear on the first achiever's list. everyone should be on an equal playing field when it comes to things like this. for example, https://psnprofiles.com/trophy/8127-dragon-quest-xi-echoes-of-an-elusive-age/1-living-legend I am 14 on the list on this one and a few people ahead of me got the game much earlier than me, it completely defeats the point. That would be pointless too because people who buy digital versions will be an extra 12 hours roughly ahead as they can play the game at midnight which is punishing physical owners. Ultimately first achiever will never be fair for the majority of games, there is always one person who will get it early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sepheroithisgod Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kreivok said: That would be pointless too because people who buy digital versions will be an extra 12 hours roughly ahead as they can play the game at midnight which is punishing physical owners. Ultimately first achiever will never be fair for the majority of games, there is always one person who will get it early. Idk, I've gone to plenty of midnight releases for games and it only takes a few minutes to pick the game up and get back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnKay Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, sepheroithisgod said: Idk, I've gone to plenty of midnight releases for games and it only takes a few minutes to pick the game up and get back. Each to their own I guess. If I want a game that badly at midnight I will just save myself the hassle and get it digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskdocx Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, sepheroithisgod said: Idk, I've gone to plenty of midnight releases for games and it only takes a few minutes to pick the game up and get back. And how are you going to account for different launch dates in different countries? If a game shares a single list WW, then it can be out days earlier in one region. In fact, with a lot of localized games from Japan, they may have it months or years earlier than EU/NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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