True final millennium tower

[hybridhero102]

I'm at max character level for everyone and maxed out one job for each character and the first fight kicked my ass, does anyone know roughly how many jobs to max out before attempting this? 

[HelldreW]

I have 2 jobs maxed out on each char, and don't feel that i'am got more hp and mp... I think the way to beat true millenium is max weapons and gear. I beat tower all the way to amon(suffering) beat him to 2\10 hp, then he cast orbital laser and one shot me when i have full hp  don't really know how to get more hp

[hybridhero102]

They do give permanent star boosts but for each job they give 2 specific types, so you have to do those, just dont want to end up getting to 99 with every job the grind is long 

[Maxcules]

Each job has its own stats and only your character level affect the stats across all jobs.

[Xionx]

33 minutes ago, Maxcules said:

Each job has its own stats and only your character level affect the stats across all jobs.

 

Not exactly , you get permanent stat boosts and skills that stay on character even after switching job . Look in skill List of a job , you see something like +10HP perma boost or so.

 

[Ranari_Kai]

Powerpyx writes in his trophy guide that all jobs at max level is pretty much a requirement for playing the true final millenium tower: 

https://www.powerpyx.com/yakuza-like-a-dragon-trophy-guide-roadmap/

At least there seems to be a good grinding spot. Look under the trophy „ryu ga gotuku“.

[Gage]

1 hour ago, Ranari_Kai said:

Powerpyx writes in his trophy guide that all jobs at max level is pretty much a requirement for playing the true final millenium tower: 

https://www.powerpyx.com/yakuza-like-a-dragon-trophy-guide-roadmap/

At least there seems to be a good grinding spot. Look under the trophy „ryu ga gotuku“.

I wrote in the guide. ?

 

Safe assumption is to do them all, though I think one of the two who had it done last week said they didn't do every job. You can probably get away with not doing one or two for each character depending on the setup on the characters you're actually using. 

 

I've really only got like 3 jobs leveled with each so far, because it's such a stupid slog and I had to deal with other stuff most of the weekend so I could work on PS5 guide stuff this week. 

 

If you want some more gear it's probably easier to just run through Kamurocho sewer fully a few times and open all the gold safes at the end, then just buy materials to upgrade a weapon on each of the characters your spending most of the time with. 

[hybridhero102]

I've just completed the true final millennium tower, I only maxed out 5 jobs for each character so it's doable with that many, I took loads of mp restorative and made sure to use peerless resolve at the start of each fight so if ichibans takes a fatal blow you will survive

[Inuty]

On 18.11.2020 at 2:23 PM, hybridhero102 said:

I've just completed the true final millennium tower, I only maxed out 5 jobs for each character so it's doable with that many, I took loads of mp restorative and made sure to use peerless resolve at the start of each fight so if ichibans takes a fatal blow you will survive

Stupid question,  i have 5 Jobs max on each char. The first few enemies hit me for 700-900 dmg and i cant understand why. I think if even the first mobs do this much dmg,  is it even possible for me to beat amon at  the end?

[TetsuyaPlay4]

45 minutes ago, Inuty said:

Stupid question,  i have 5 Jobs max on each char. The first few enemies hit me for 700-900 dmg and i cant understand why. I think if even the first mobs do this much dmg,  is it even possible for me to beat amon at  the end?

Sadly thats just how it is.

The two Subjugation-kun can be skipped if you run to the elevator fast enough as long as the tower message is on screen and Mister Six and Grand Slammer hit especially hard but everything after actually is easier.

 

Also on floor 3, Juggle-O and Maneating Loan Shark fight can be skipped if you run and hug the left wall, then trough the door but this time hug the right wall to also skip Scarred Yakuza and Undertaker.

[hybridhero102]

1 minute ago, TetsuyaPlay4 said:

Sadly thats just how it is.

The two Subjugation-kun can be skipped if you run to the elevator fast enough as long as the tower message is on screen and Mister Six and Grand Slammer hit especially hard but everything after actually is easier.

 

Also on floor 3, Juggle-O and Maneating Loan Shark fight can be skipped if you run and hug the left wall, then trough the door but this time hug the right wall to also skip Scarred Yakuza and Undertaker.

I wish I'd know this before? it is a long and difficult challenge but once you do it you feel so satisfied 

[Inuty]

34 minutes ago, TetsuyaPlay4 said:

Sadly thats just how it is.

The two Subjugation-kun can be skipped if you run to the elevator fast enough as long as the tower message is on screen and Mister Six and Grand Slammer hit especially hard but everything after actually is easier.

 

Also on floor 3, Juggle-O and Maneating Loan Shark fight can be skipped if you run and hug the left wall, then trough the door but this time hug the right wall to also skip Scarred Yakuza and Undertaker.

Thanks for the feedback.  I really questioned what i Was doing and that this cant just be it but if someone say that this is normal then i feel not so bad anymore 

[Piro]

Just beat the True Final Millenium Tower and got the platinum, wasn't entirely too tough damage-wise except for that one gang member type who swings with a lead pipe and does critical hit on every hit and the wrestler who when finish charging up his special move, pretty much KOs whoever he lands his grab on. My run had at least one preferred job at 99 and the rest at 30 just to get some beneficial skills from each job. The run consisted of spamming the fortuneteller thunderspell on whichever enemy that was weak to it and if not, then whatever the enemy was weak to (blade or fist attacks usually). Party members were Kasuga (Hero), Joon-gi Han (Assassin), Zhao (Gangster) and Saeko (Idol). Idol is definitely needed because the higher the job level is, the more healing you do to the party and if no healing is needed, you can debuff enemies and bosses on their defenses or attacks if needed. Peerless Resolve at the start of every battle is also needed to prevent restarting and sacrifice stone can be optional. If the sacrifice stone is used on Ichiban, then it will be prioritized over Peerless Resolve if he is KO'd.

 

In terms of bosses, Saejima was weak to electricity-type attacks, Majima was not necessarily weak to electricity but in my case did slightly over 1000 damage and Zhao's Ladder Acrobatic Kiwami move did 2000+, Tendo is also weak to electricity but has a lot of health so will take a large amount of spamming fortuneteller electricity spell and replenishing MP if low, Kiryu is weak to ice-type attacks so spam both host and hostess ice-type skills and he'll be a pushover if you perfect guard his attacks well.

 

For Amon, I applied Endless Desire for gradual healing every turn and then I used a mix of Divine Shot and Rapid Shot for Joon-gi Han, Sanguine Blade Dance for Zhao, and Double Hatchet for Kasuga, Joon-gi Han and Zhao. When Amon enters Beast Style, he can take some more damage until he sends out Saejima, Majima and Kiryu. Poundmate Summons will be useful at this point, especially ones that attack all enemies but the first Poundmate Summon that should be summoned is Mr. Masochist since you'll have 4 bosses dealing high damage to your party and his abilities can help with that. Same strategies can be used for Saejima, Majima and Kiryu in terms of doing damage to them. I took out Amon first, Majima, Saejima and then Kiryu using a bunch of skills targetting all enemies. It should be noted that when each boss is at really low health, they'll use their own poundmate summons to deal massive damage to your party unless you do enough damage before then to bypass that so it's best to be fully healed before damaging them to that point. 

 

Overall, the journey and the final battle itself is tough but manageable if you have Kasuga's health over 1800 and the rest of the party members over 1500 or 1600 (if it cannot be reached then use the Dragon's Binding for HP increase) and one Idol member (preferably high level or max) for healing. The True Final Millenium Tower will be a lengthy battle but it can be accomplished if you take it slow and plan ahead before the enemy has their turn.

 

Grinding one job to 99 and the rest 30 took me around 20 hours defeating Vagabonds in the Kamurocho Underground Dungeon as listed in PowerPyx's guide so do be prepared for that. Alternatively, I heard that playing NG+ on Legendary difficulty can boost EXP and Job EXP gains exponentially although that will mean doing the True Final Millenium Tower on Legendary so choose whichever grind suits you. 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2020 by Piro

[Gage]

7 hours ago, Piro said:

Alternatively, I heard that playing NG+ on Legendary difficulty can boost EXP and Job EXP gains exponentially although that will mean doing the True Final Millenium Tower on Legendary so choose whichever grind suits you. 

 

I was actually wondering about this. I think you can change difficulty whenever in NG+ (you just can't raise it above normal in first playthrough), so if you do get that much more XP on Legend in NG+ that might be more worth the time to hammer through then just drop it back to normal and do the Towers again. 

[TetsuyaPlay4]

4 hours ago, Gage said:

 

I was actually wondering about this. I think you can change difficulty whenever in NG+ (you just can't raise it above normal in first playthrough), so if you do get that much more XP on Legend in NG+ that might be more worth the time to hammer through then just drop it back to normal and do the Towers again. 

Yeah i tested that after getting the Platinum and it is absolutely not worth it.

On NG+ legend the vagabonds still only give around 500k XP, the chance to miss them is higher and every fight takes longer, also its gonna take you around 4h to even get to this point.

Not to mention doing the bonds again and if you want Eri as matriarch (or orbital laser) have fun doing the management minigame for 2h because she needs to be bond lvl 5.

[Siriodorione]

20 hours of grinding for a trophy discourages me, I don't know if it will take me.

[ClausValca]

On 11/25/2020 at 3:28 PM, Gage said:

 

I was actually wondering about this. I think you can change difficulty whenever in NG+ (you just can't raise it above normal in first playthrough), so if you do get that much more XP on Legend in NG+ that might be more worth the time to hammer through then just drop it back to normal and do the Towers again. 

You aren't locked to the chosen difficulty on NG+.  There is a setting in the game settings to change difficulty at literally any moment.  Very handy.

 

The standard XP gain isn't that big on legend difficulty but the job exp gain is absurd.  You can put on a couple job exp items, swap to a new job and just run around outside Hello Work with legend difficulty on.  Vagabonds on normal are still better for level XP but it only takes 30 minutes or so to take a job from 1 to 30 (Considered max) with the legend method and you don't need to go back and forth from Kamurocho.  

 

If you don't already have multiple jobs leveled by the time you hit Premium Adventure in NG its better to just run NG+.  With Hariti Talisman or whatever its called you have no world encounters and it will take you about 4 hours to hit premium adventure from the start.  You can do Management to unlock Orbital Laser in about 2 hours while watching a movie since all the employees from substories and hiring pool are available again.  Just set enough to go positive, hire and level all your employees to fill the spaces and use Eri, the chicken, Hanayama and a green icon employee of your choicefor the meetings.  You one-shot most of the early shareholders and its just a matter of holding R2/RT for a few minutes at a time.  

 

Also another reason to do NG+ is for the two big spoiler fights with you-know-who.  Its fun to try and beat them on legend difficulty where they're scaled to 70+

[Gage]

1 hour ago, ClausValca said:

The standard XP gain isn't that big on legend difficulty but the job exp gain is absurd.  You can put on a couple job exp items, swap to a new job and just run around outside Hello Work with legend difficulty on.  Vagabonds on normal are still better for level XP but it only takes 30 minutes or so to take a job from 1 to 30 (Considered max) with the legend method and you don't need to go back and forth from Kamurocho. 

 

Only leveling to 30 doesn't really do anything though, because the point is leveling past that for the extra stat bonuses. You can also level people to 30 quickly running the sewer in NG, that's not the reason it takes so long. I don't really get the point you're making here unless I'm misunderstanding something. 

[Thomas2400]

does maxing out every job and getting the best equipment make the true final millennium tower easy or will it still be tough, I'm in the middle of level all the jobs in haven't used and I don't know if I can take running through the sewers a few hundreds times more 

[BaquPL]

6 hours ago, Thomas2400 said:

does maxing out every job and getting the best equipment make the true final millennium tower easy or will it still be tough, I'm in the middle of level all the jobs in haven't used and I don't know if I can take running through the sewers a few hundreds times more 

I had 4 jobs maxed at every character and EX+1 weapons on everyone, only Kasuga had +4 and it was very manageable. Did it first try with only 4 KO's throughout the whole tower.

Trash mobs were harder then the bosses imo, so don't get discouraged if you're struggling at first. In the last fight when Amon summons help use poundmates each time you can.

[WhiteRaito]

8 hours ago, Thomas2400 said:

does maxing out every job and getting the best equipment make the true final millennium tower easy or will it still be tough, I'm in the middle of level all the jobs in haven't used and I don't know if I can take running through the sewers a few hundreds times more 

i maxed everything on ichiban except fortune teller, as the others  i got like 5-6 of 99 rest around 80. i did it first try but i do retry twice at amon due to bad luck and actually i had a bad setup when i dont even use the soul bracelet to not get feared due to the grin.

i think it helps to use poundmates starting when amon's health around 40 percent when he started summoning the 4 shadows until amon died then aim for majima with the foreman dynamite it deals lotsa dmg, 

Miracle kimchi on jun-gi, ichiban, zhao  helps alot to kill amon before the orbital laser being launched keep aiming with assassin drive,phoenix saber, pound mates/the ultimate essence of bat thing and even you might want the only idol essence that deals damage at amon just to make sure he died in time. due to miracle kimchi jun gi will get like 9 or may be more turns before the stupid laser. when you beat amon then majima the rest of the shadows are pretty easy just spam the correct elemental, the thunder from fortune teller to saejima and ice bucket to kiryu

Edited November 30, 2020 by WhiteRaito

[Thomas2400]

Thanks for the replies, I'm currently about halfway through maxing my third jobs, started to upgrade all the weapons to the point on them costing millions per upgrade now and needing rare items 

 

I did try to do the true final dungeon when I only had one job maxed right after doing the normal one getting my arse handed to me in the first fight, are all the HP/MP machines in the same place in the true final dungeon? It helped on normal that I could just go through MP in certain fights and top up afterwards 

 

Just another question if anybody knows yet, if there a maximum level for upgrading the final version of a weapon or is it like in yakuza 0 where you can keep upgrading the final skill tree forever so you can one shot anything?

[urutoraman_k]

10 hours ago, Thomas2400 said:

does maxing out every job and getting the best equipment make the true final millennium tower easy or will it still be tough, I'm in the middle of level all the jobs in haven't used and I don't know if I can take running through the sewers a few hundreds times more 

 

Just got this trophy last Saturday. As reference, I used this guide to help me, but do take note that one of the characters use Matriarch job, which is a DLC:

 

 

I did this with only 1 job maxed for my main characters, which are Kasuga (Hero), Han (Enforcer), Saeko (Idol) and Eri (Matriarch). I also grind a few jobs that gave my characters HP / MP / Defense buff up to Rank 50, and most of other jobs to Rank 30 just for a few added stats and necessary skills. I didn't even bother to grind other jobs that are less beneficial such as the Chef for Kasuga. My weapons is another story. I have grinded all my weapons to at least EX +5 / EX +6, and Kasuga's bat at the final upgrade, EX EX. My gears mostly consist of Quixotic armor set for Kasuga, Cyber Helmet / Quixotic Armor / Dragon Boots for the rest.   

 

Like one of the above replies, you can skip some of the fights to help your journey easier. But I only managed to skip Subjugation-kun in the first level. Got my ass handed off during the second fight with the large slugger & Dr. Black. Other than that, enemies are easier, even for all the boss fights before Amon.

 

Here's my general tips:

 

1. Ensure that you have high HP. My Kasuga is at 2000+, Eri/Saeko/Han are at 1700-1800. Try to grind jobs that give you HP boost. For male, Enforcers/Foreman. For female, Night Queen. Use Dragon's Binding / Gallant Binding to add 150 HP / 100 HP respectively. You can easily get Gallant Binding from Kamulop at 12 Tojo Crests.
2. Always use "Peerless Resolve" when you have the chance. Then "Fearless Command" to boost ATK, and "Hero's Embrace" to heal all characters if required.
3. Use "Endless Desire" for Regen. I use this with Han as he's the only guy have access to Musician job.
4. If you have maxed the Matriarch job, and buffed Eri's ATK stats from Night Queen & AGI stats from Clerk, the skill "Shadow Stitch" is very useful for most of the enemies. Only a few enemies have reduced damage for sharp weapons. "Shaodw Stitch" is also useful as it reduces enemies' EVA stats.
5. Saeko is only for heals, and revives only. There's another skill in Matriarch that can help you remove Sleep/Stun/Paralysis effects. The Essence of whatchamacallit from Saeko is great to revive fallen characters with full HP, at 50 MP only. Saeko is great in debuffing enemies. Use "Sexy Pose" for single enemy / boss, and "Lovedrunk Typhoon" for multiple enemies.
6. As Enforcer, Han will always spam "Essence of Shield Rupture" and Eri, as Matriarch will always spam "Essence of Elegance". These two extreme moves are great for crowd control. As these use a lot of MP, you may need to consider using Kiwami Mouthguard / God of Brawler's Mouthguard to reduce MP consumption, with the latter is better and can be bought multiple from Kamulop at 25 Tojo Crests. Another gear that might be useful is the War God Talisman. It can regen your MP. I used it for Eri & Saeko.
7. Bring a lot of restorative items as backups and don't forget these useful items: Chinese Medicinal bolus that can revive characters at 1 HP/ Half HP / Full HP & Full MP, Kiwami Lunch Box by the Bartender that can heal party for 500 HP & 300 MP.

 

During Amon's fight:

 

1. Same tips as above - Kasuga cast Peerless Resolve at the first chance, Saeko as healer, Eri uses Shadow Stitch as ranged attack & Han cast "Endless Desire" at the first round (and when needed). Kasuga can also heal all characters with "Hero's Embrace" if Saeko didn't got any chance (if died / under status ailment such as Paralyzed / Silenced) and "Fearless Command" to boost ATK.
2. Call Poundmates when the battle's getting tougher. Call Poundmate Mr. Masochist when Amon changed his stance to Beast, as it will greatly reduce damage from enemies, especially when he called for all the Thought Entities.
3. When he has called for backups, Han to spam "Essence of Electromagnetic Storm" and Eri to spam "Essence of Elegance". Use MP restorative items to refill MP when necessary. Another tip - sometimes, death is best for characters that have loss a lot of MP. Use the Chinese Medicine bolus that can revive and fill up your HP/MP to reduce unnecessary turns.
4. The "Megaton Throw" from Foreman job is best for Majima and can deal area damage, as well as the "Fulminating Forecast" from Fortune Teller, that can deal lightning damage to Amon & Saejima, as well as area damage. "Ice Spreader" skills from Host & Hostess are best left for Kiryu. 
5. Remember to heal / debuff enemies every round with Saeko, as it will help during the "Essence of Orbital Laser".
6. Always revive when your character got killed by Amon's fatal moves. He most likely spammed this after the laser attack.

 

Other than that, just take it slowly. Always be alert with the subsequent turns and re-strategize if necessary.

Also, bring a lot of money when you retry for Amon's battles. I got killed in my first fight, because I was a bit unlucky, and I took my time to revive my fallen characters. Got this in my second fight.

 

1 hour ago, Thomas2400 said:

Thanks for the replies, I'm currently about halfway through maxing my third jobs, started to upgrade all the weapons to the point on them costing millions per upgrade now and needing rare items 

 

I did try to do the true final dungeon when I only had one job maxed right after doing the normal one getting my arse handed to me in the first fight, are all the HP/MP machines in the same place in the true final dungeon? It helped on normal that I could just go through MP in certain fights and top up afterwards 

 

Just another question if anybody knows yet, if there a maximum level for upgrading the final version of a weapon or is it like in yakuza 0 where you can keep upgrading the final skill tree forever so you can one shot anything?

 

I can confirm you that the final upgrade is EX EX. It takes from EX +1 to EX +8, then EX EX. Use the Final Millennium tower to easily farm money. You can get around 34 million yen or more if you drink Sengoku Coffee during each boss fight. Or if you prefer a less hostile method, you can repeatedly do Business Management and get 3 million yen after 10 minutes. The total money you are looking for one single weapon up to EX is around 75 - 100 million yens. The tower also provides access to crafting items though you need to memorize which floor is for which crafting items, hence I would suggest farming them at Sotenbori Battle Arena.

 

Edited November 30, 2020 by urutoraman_k
Minor typo & added a few details

[WhiteRaito]

1 hour ago, Thomas2400 said:

Thanks for the replies, I'm currently about halfway through maxing my third jobs, started to upgrade all the weapons to the point on them costing millions per upgrade now and needing rare items 

 

I did try to do the true final dungeon when I only had one job maxed right after doing the normal one getting my arse handed to me in the first fight, are all the HP/MP machines in the same place in the true final dungeon? It helped on normal that I could just go through MP in certain fights and top up afterwards 

 

Just another question if anybody knows yet, if there a maximum level for upgrading the final version of a weapon or is it like in yakuza 0 where you can keep upgrading the final skill tree forever so you can one shot anything?

Its just to plus 9 it became ex ex or kiwami kiwami. I did it with only 2 weapon to ex ex but again i already have it before the story final boss. Its not worth that much. If i had to pick one weapon to ex ex just do jun gi. It helps on bosses more than anything

 

the rest with normal ex is fine

Edited November 30, 2020 by WhiteRaito

[Thomas2400]

Where can you get accessories that prevent fear and stun? Is there a shop that sells them? I stupidly sold everything to make some quick cash for weapon upgrades 

 

I can pretty much handle everything in the final fight until he cause fear and then used the orbital strike