The yummy tears of trophy elitists

[cm-PUNK2000 34]

I never really got the mentality of caring so much about what other people play and platinum. It's totally fine to not wanna do easy ratalika plats, i don't really do them anymore as i dont find it satisfying to do since for me half the fun comes from making a nice long post detailing my endeavors on the plat. But at the same time I never told anyone hey you shouldn't get this plat or that plat because its too easy. Maybe they find it fun, or they just want a quick plat for the endorphins who knows, but at the end of the day its their accounts, their money so who really gives a hoof.

 

i've recently seen a surge in trophy elitsts with the release of mayo2, people being genuinely pissed at us for having fun playing some stupid one dollar game about a mayonnaise bottle and to those I just really wanna ask, why? The argument I see the most is something along the lines of 'it ruins leaderboards' well if you think it does then just make your own leaderboards with your own rules and not include all the games you don't like. But they wont they just complain and complain about easy platinums ruining trophy hunting and then not do anything about but make some sad petition to stop ratalika games from being allowed to put plats in their games (yes its sadly real). 

 

I'm honestly just fed up with the elitism and the gatekeeping that is separating the trophy hunting community, which is already a tiny one compared to the gaming community. I think it should just be simple, play what you like, let others play what they like. You don't have to congratulate someone for doing a plat you find too easy but you also shouldn't call them out or mock them for doing an easy one (I'm talking on a serious level not just as friendly banter).

 

I am open to different view points and different arguments, not really willing to argue as I don't use forums or check forums often at all just felt the need to say this. If you disagree, please do voice your point of view so maybe I could understand better where you're coming from. because so far all the stuff I heard from elitists is complete non sensical anti-fun crap.

[danceswithsloths 715]

We already have one incredibly long topic discussing this, do we really need another one?

[NieSwiety 114]

You are the one who "have fun playing mayo game" (not just playing for platinum. A truly special kind of a man.

 

(after that sentence I stopped reading. It's just a huge waste of time)

[Unwanted_Kermit 38]

Be one with the mayo amen 

[uJamii 13]

1 minute ago, Unwanted_Kermit said:

Be one with the mayo amen 

GOTY for sure

[cm-PUNK2000 34]

5 minutes ago, NieSwiety said:

You are the one who "have fun playing mayo game" (not just playing for platinum. A truly special kind of a man.

 

(after that sentence I stopped reading. It's just a huge waste of time)

That sort of close minded-ness seems to be a big drive in elitism (not saying you are one just speaking generally). The fact that you cant fathom someone enjoying a game like this and thinking we'd all just do it for the plat. If you look at my account's more recent activity (say this year) you'd see I don't even do those types of easy games nor grindy games (at least I try to avoid grindy games) I just platinum games that I enjoy. Mayo I really only got hyped for as a joke which then turned to genuine hype which is a feeling i missed as I wasnt hyping for any game since RE3 came out. but I was pleasantly surprised with how much fun I had playing it. The game had some cool jokes and references which made me laugh a few times. So for a dollar and like 20 mins, I'd say i had fun. Plat is a cool bonus too

[DonBrandon98 9]

in my humble opinion everyone is free to get any plat they want to get , if they  get easy plats that is fine , if they get hard plats is fine too , it doesnt affect me at all , as long as they have fun and not doing it just by increasing a number , that afterall everything is virtual and we cant touch it 

[kevao97 69]

1 hour ago, DonBrandon98 said:

in my humble opinion everyone is free to get any plat they want to get , if they  get easy plats that is fine , if they get hard plats is fine too , it doesnt affect me at all , as long as they have fun and not doing it just by increasing a number , that afterall everything is virtual and we cant touch it 

hey i can touch my tv screen!

[BossZombieMan 113]

2 hours ago, cm-PUNK2000 said:

I never really got the mentality of caring so much about what other people play and platinum. It's totally fine to not wanna do easy ratalika plats, i don't really do them anymore as i dont find it satisfying to do since for me half the fun comes from making a nice long post detailing my endeavors on the plat. But at the same time I never told anyone hey you shouldn't get this plat or that plat because its too easy. Maybe they find it fun, or they just want a quick plat for the endorphins who knows, but at the end of the day its their accounts, their money so who really gives a hoof.

 

i've recently seen a surge in trophy elitsts with the release of mayo2, people being genuinely pissed at us for having fun playing some stupid one dollar game about a mayonnaise bottle and to those I just really wanna ask, why? The argument I see the most is something along the lines of 'it ruins leaderboards' well if you think it does then just make your own leaderboards with your own rules and not include all the games you don't like. But they wont they just complain and complain about easy platinums ruining trophy hunting and then not do anything about but make some sad petition to stop ratalika games from being allowed to put plats in their games (yes its sadly real). 

 

I'm honestly just fed up with the elitism and the gatekeeping that is separating the trophy hunting community, which is already a tiny one compared to the gaming community. I think it should just be simple, play what you like, let others play what they like. You don't have to congratulate someone for doing a plat you find too easy but you also shouldn't call them out or mock them for doing an easy one (I'm talking on a serious level not just as friendly banter).

 

I am open to different view points and different arguments, not really willing to argue as I don't use forums or check forums often at all just felt the need to say this. If you disagree, please do voice your point of view so maybe I could understand better where you're coming from. because so far all the stuff I heard from elitists is complete non sensical anti-fun crap.

Because most of the elitist players have most of the time not a big number of platinums while it's generally the opposite for players who play Ratalaika and cie. 

 

Almost every player who was mad at me had less than 50 platinums and even less.

 

But i don't care about what they think, i'm here to play, not to impose myself a virtual conformism.

[scemopagliaccioh 602]

What are you trying to achieve, exactly?

Just as you're free  to play Mayo, others are free to think what they want about those games, are you trying to policy their speech? Perhaps everyone playing mayo and then lamenting that some people don't like them ("elitism") should get banned from the leaderboards, you know, getting a taste of their own medicine.

[maurjen 206]

7 hours ago, cm-PUNK2000 said:

I never really got the mentality of caring so much about what other people play and platinum. It's totally fine to not wanna do easy ratalika plats, i don't really do them anymore as i dont find it satisfying to do since for me half the fun comes from making a nice long post detailing my endeavors on the plat. But at the same time I never told anyone hey you shouldn't get this plat or that plat because its too easy. Maybe they find it fun, or they just want a quick plat for the endorphins who knows, but at the end of the day its their accounts, their money so who really gives a hoof.

 

i've recently seen a surge in trophy elitsts with the release of mayo2, people being genuinely pissed at us for having fun playing some stupid one dollar game about a mayonnaise bottle and to those I just really wanna ask, why? The argument I see the most is something along the lines of 'it ruins leaderboards' well if you think it does then just make your own leaderboards with your own rules and not include all the games you don't like. But they wont they just complain and complain about easy platinums ruining trophy hunting and then not do anything about but make some sad petition to stop ratalika games from being allowed to put plats in their games (yes its sadly real). 

 

I'm honestly just fed up with the elitism and the gatekeeping that is separating the trophy hunting community, which is already a tiny one compared to the gaming community. I think it should just be simple, play what you like, let others play what they like. You don't have to congratulate someone for doing a plat you find too easy but you also shouldn't call them out or mock them for doing an easy one (I'm talking on a serious level not just as friendly banter).

 

I am open to different view points and different arguments, not really willing to argue as I don't use forums or check forums often at all just felt the need to say this. If you disagree, please do voice your point of view so maybe I could understand better where you're coming from. because so far all the stuff I heard from elitists is complete non sensical anti-fun crap.

This is deep   to be honest its about time easy games with plats have appeared (easy games can clear your mind of things to even after playing a hard game). the Elitist and gatekeeping are only complaining about it cause their worried about their scoreboard and profile to show off saying how they are on top and telling people to git gud (like anyone has the time to acknowledge or care for what they have).  

[TheSleepyBeauty 336]

Imagine being obsessed over someone for Platinum an easy 20 minute game (took me 37 minutes bc I couldn't help but enjoy the little mini games they had). People have nothing better to do than to banter on games having easy platinums. If people want to trophy hunt easy platinums let them do it. If they want to hunt for ultra rare plats let them do it. We're in a pandemic and if ya'll are more worried over something like this you need to make different life choices. Seriously dude. It's funny people complaining over a game that cost 99 cents and actually has content. Goes to show how spoiled and arrogant we've become as humans. 

[Spaz 12,042]

The elitists are people who both have overly easy platinums and difficult ones. 
 

The difference is the elitists cry, moan and bitch about games they feel they can’t 100 percent. The threads that popped up regarding the Infallible trophy in Fall Guys were full of people saying that trophy wasn’t fair. 
 

Who said trophies had to be fair? Not every trophy should be easily obtainable like My Name is Mayo 2, there should be a modicum of skill and time involved.

Generally when I see a trophy list of someone with roughly 90 percent Ratalaika Games, I automatically think it’s a piece of shit and I don’t consider it to be a decent profile. That’s just my take on them, if people want to get offended over me saying that then they are free to do so. The leaderboards are a joke anyway. 
 

People are free to do what they want, but I’m not surprised to see people get upset over the so called standards of trophies and what they should be. That sort of gatekeeping is why PSNPROFILES has been a crap community these past couple years. It’s no wonder why so many people quit posting here.

[Sikutai 1,007]

14 hours ago, danceswithsloths said:

We already have one incredibly long topic discussing this, do we really need another one?

 

But this Thread has a better title.

 

7 hours ago, Spaz said:

Generelly when I see a trophy list of someone with roughly 90 percent Ratalaika Games, I automatically think it’s a piece of shit 
 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by Sikutai

[Gommes_ 1,741]

Great way to start a conversation with that divisive heading! Btw. imo trophy hunting was always elitist, since it seperated "normal" gamers from the ones who wanted to do more than just beat the game. And crappy platinums kinda destroyed that purpose. So it is totally normal to debate recent developments of Sonys quality control and to argue about a new player base who do not wanna overcome certain challenges in order to get a platinum.

Edited November 24, 2020 by Gommes_

[aZombieDictator 1,952]

This most baflling thing about this Mayo discussion is how Mayo is jack shit compared to all the Rataliaka EZPZ.

 

We have 1 stack for Mayo 2 that's it.

 

Where Rataliaka publishes games that take less time to Platinum than Mayo and have 6 stacks.

 

How does Mayo just bring all these people out while Rataliaka drops EZPZ every week. Go cry about those, not Mayo.

[searinox904 0]

When most platinums today are "How much are you  willing to grind?", why does it really matter than you can plat this game in under an hour?

[Alderriz 1,156]

Who's worse: people who whine about easy trophies or people who whine about "trophy elitists"?

[mysticmosh 95]

Trophies are trophies and where players earn them is entirely up to them. With well over 1000 platinums earned in the first 24 hours(myself included), Mayo 2 certainly appeals to the masses. The leaderboard on the site is for trophies won in all types of game so why give a shit about how the totals are made up. I like the ratalaika games because being a gamer from the 70's onwards, some of their games have the retro feel from long ago (I'm talking Firefox F7 etc). If other players don't like that, so what and fuck 'em. In the big scale of things, the haters don't even register on my radar; they're not important enough for me to give a shit to how they see what they think is the 'correct' way to earn trophies.

[DrBloodmoney 4,119]

Anything with a leaderboard is, by nature, elitist.

 

It’s virtually impossible not to be elitist in an environment where people are ranked - the issue isn’t really elitism, it’s judgementalism and lack of empathy that is the problem.

 

The way I see it, if someone has a profile with nothing but easy stacks of shovel-ware, that’s their business. It’s not for me to judge (at least, not out loud) UNLESS they start throwing their level around, wielding it like a weapon and disparaging others of lower level. As dar as I’m concerned, that is the time -the ONLY time - that it is acceptable to call them out about it. 
 

 

[Herbset 183]

I don't care what people play or plat. The only thing that pisses me off is when people ask me to "help" them with a trophy via shareplay. Like get good or gtfo. It's mostly about Yakuza Kiwami or Zero, and whenever some chimp texts me to help them cheat my blood boils.

[Spaz 12,042]

9 hours ago, Herbset said:

It's mostly about Yakuza Kiwami or Zero, and whenever some chimp texts me to help them cheat my blood boils.

 

Because they want to beat Mahjong in these games, right?

[BlitzkriegHottie 42]

I don't really care about their difficulties or quick completion times tbh, what annoys me is seeing these talentless hacks profiting from their shovelware. 

 

They shit on their own hand, hand you that turd, and take your money. They know how profitable it is to sell platinums, so they'll never stop. 

 

I have two platinums like these: Slyde and Adam's Venture, and I regret buying them. Not platting them, what I regret is supporting these devs. 

 

For all the shit Elitists have thrown at Telltale, they at least used to make decent games. 

 

PS: I agree with most, the Mayo games are nowhere near being the worst platinums out there, there are far, far worse. (Jack n Jill and Little Adventure on the Prairie come to mind) 

[pogo_loco 50]

The root of this problem is that we do not all agree on the value of a trophy.

 

Without sharing that in common, it is easy to be incredulous towards other people’s perspectives.

 

It is literally a religious issue.  “You do not believe the way I believe, therefore you are wrong.”

 

Edit:  Offered to the court as evidence exhibit A, please note the next comment.

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by pogo_loco

[Tomba25 8]

On 11/21/2020 at 9:36 PM, Alderriz said:

Who's worse: people who whine about easy trophies or people who whine about "trophy elitists"?

 people who whine about easy trophies. They are sadistic assholes.