Why are so many people complaining about easy platinum games

[Vulpine9Tails]

In a perfect world all this garbage would disappear but...it's going to get worse??? 

Good gravy. 

[BrettyBoy]

You know what they say, money is money but I don’t really agree with the jumping games filling up the front store page since you don’t really do anything in them games except jump and nothing else.

 

I believe BreakThrough Gaming games are fine to be on the front page in my view though since them games are actually something, they are retro style arcade games.

Edited September 7, 2022 by BrettyBoy

[Pray_4_the_End]

3 minutes ago, djb5f said:

 
Reminds me of Something About Mary, 7-minute abs vs. 8-minute abs lol

I was just thinking the same thing hahaha ?

[iriihutoR84]

Sony should do what Microsoft does. Any trash is allowed on the store via the Creators Program but if you want to get on the normal tier of the store and publish games with achievements then every concept needs to be approved by MS beforehand. There seriously aren't that many 30 minute "platinums" on Xbox every week, maybe 2-3, and there are zero non-games with achievements similar to the Jumping Food franchise. All games with achievements on Xbox are actual games. 

 

ThiGames are allowed to publish on Xbox but they don't because they know their games wouldn't sell without achievements. The same should be the case on PlayStation. 

Edited September 7, 2022 by iriihutoR84

[The Alchemist]

Anyone who has even casually browsed this site at any time over the last few months will be acutely aware of this issue already, because there's been a million and one threads created to discuss the topic. Nothing in that article is news to anyone here. I'm guessing it must have been a slow news day for the writer and they had to come up with something to publish. 

[stpatty]

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Games like The Jumping Fries, The Jumping Fries Turbo, and dozens more like it are crowding the PSN storefront, making it harder for customers to find what they want.

I'd suggest that these things are exactly what certain customers want, which is why there's so many of them.

 

30 minutes ago, HuntingFever said:

... so what else is new? This is old news to anyone who has been paying attention.

People on websites like this have been paying attention. Hopefully if it's getting picked up by more mainstream outlets something might be done about it.

[DaivRules]

Sony needs to do something to protect the people suffering from clinical obsession of these games existing and obsessively documenting about them over and over again. The documentation they’ve left even here in the forums should be enough to get them the immediate professional help they clearly show that they need. 
 

If you are one of those people who seek out and get dopamine hits because you find someone, somewhere on the internet has posted something about these games existing and your immediate thought is to propagate what you find somewhere else on the internet, or you find a way to somehow relate these games with any negative impacts to humanity, I implore you to seek professional help immediately. No judgment. Your mental health is important. 
 

[geronimodegraaf]

I stopped caring about "shitty" easy plat game for 3 years now and retired from it. Ratalaika Games were atleast decent with some gameplay, finishing in a hour or so. But its getting out of hand now, I only plat and play games that I like and that are real games. The each their own I guess.

 

I'm glad these 2 minute cheap platinums isn't on my list

[El Duderino]

I just finished a tasty pizza. It didn't jump... yet...

[Afro_Gear]

18 minutes ago, DaivRules said:

Sony needs to do something to protect the people suffering from clinical obsession of these games existing and obsessively documenting about them over and over again. The documentation they’ve left even here in the forums should be enough to get them the immediate professional help they clearly show that they need. 
 

If you are one of those people who seek out and get dopamine hits because you find someone, somewhere on the internet has posted something about these games existing and your immediate thought is to propagate what you find somewhere else on the internet, or you find a way to somehow relate these games with any negative impacts to humanity, I implore you to seek professional help immediately. No judgment. Your mental health is important. 
 

 

Tell us how you really feel... Dang dude, you're a mod and essentially saying OP is suffering from a mental illness is a little harsh. Regardless of how you feel about these type of games, OP was just sharing an article. Live and let live.

[Caesar Clown]

26 minutes ago, iriihutoR84 said:

Sony should do what Microsoft does. Any trash is allowed on the store via the Creators Program but if you want to get on the normal tier of the store and publish games with achievements then every concept needs to be approved by MS beforehand. There seriously aren't that many 30 minute "platinums" on Xbox every week, maybe 2-3, and there are zero non-games with achievements similar to the Jumping Food franchise. All games with achievements on Xbox are actual games. 

 

ThiGames are allowed to publish on Xbox but they don't because they know their games wouldn't sell without achievements. The same should be the case on PlayStation. 

 

These types of games are on the Xbox, and the topics made on the Xbox achievement forums about these types of games are larger than any on these forums. And there are some really angry people there..

[starcrunch061]

1 hour ago, djb5f said:

 
Reminds me of Something About Mary, 7-minute abs vs. 8-minute abs lol

LOL.

 

”Seven is the key number here!”

[Deadly_Ha_Ha]

1 hour ago, DaivRules said:

Sony needs to do something to protect the people suffering from clinical obsession of these games existing and obsessively documenting about them over and over again. The documentation they’ve left even here in the forums should be enough to get them the immediate professional help they clearly show that they need. 
 

If you are one of those people who seek out and get dopamine hits because you find someone, somewhere on the internet has posted something about these games existing and your immediate thought is to propagate what you find somewhere else on the internet, or you find a way to somehow relate these games with any negative impacts to humanity, I implore you to seek professional help immediately. No judgment. Your mental health is important. 
 

Boy this is hard to take seriously through what feels a lot more like a passive dig at the OP

[VigilantCrow]

1 hour ago, DaivRules said:

Sony needs to do something to protect the people suffering from clinical obsession of these games existing and obsessively documenting about them over and over again. The documentation they’ve left even here in the forums should be enough to get them the immediate professional help they clearly show that they need. 
 

If you are one of those people who seek out and get dopamine hits because you find someone, somewhere on the internet has posted something about these games existing and your immediate thought is to propagate what you find somewhere else on the internet, or you find a way to somehow relate these games with any negative impacts to humanity, I implore you to seek professional help immediately. No judgment. Your mental health is important. 
 

You should stop sidestepping and simply call it out for what it is, these people are mentally ill. Who cares if it upsets them, they're already crying daily about this nonsense.

[DogalZ]

Maybe the reason why you can't find good quality indie games on the store, is because people like you are part of the problem? Stop supporting these developers. 

 

 

 

 

[visighost]

I’m hoping more and more news outlets cover this. The reputational damage to Sony might push them to take action.

 

The main concern isn’t that people play those “games” (you do you) but the fact they rob devs who have actually spent time, money, sweat, and talent on creations that get buried under the sludge. If you haven’t already, you should really install PSNP+ which at least groups all the stacks together on the front page.

Edited September 13, 2022 by visighost
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[SnowNinjaRaccoon]

I honestly feel sorry for everyone who is playing this crap. You are not paying for games, you are paying for trophies and you know that's the case.

People spamming this shit on their accounts are seriously trophy addicted and I am not sure what they are trying to achieve...

 

Trying to impress someone with your number of trophies? - You are about 8-10 years too late for someone to care about your trophy count.

Doing it for yourself? - I feel sorry for you, you could have spent your time playing some good games.

You actually like the games? - Of course you do. One day someone will believe you.

 

As mentioned many times before, because of trophy addicts supporting that crap many great indies get lost in massive shitpile of shovelware. But hey, at least your got your 800th plat this months literally nobody cares about, good for all of you.

 

Here are some pre-written responds when someone quotes me:

"Let people play what they want!" - Sure, but you are still an addict.

"How can you be so sure others don't like those games?" - It is called having eyes and a brain.

"How are those games different from Telltale games platinum trophies?" - Well Telltale games are walking sims and their trophy difficulty is limited by the gameplay itself, they don't give you the plats for free. You still have to finish their games.

 

And always remember: back in the days Resident Evil 4 wasn't allowed having a platinum trophy because it was a digital only games with only 12 trophies.

[You]

2 hours ago, Afro_Gear said:

 

Tell us how you really feel... Dang dude, you're a mod and essentially saying OP is suffering from a mental illness is a little harsh. Regardless of how you feel about these type of games, OP was just sharing an article. Live and let live.

 

This is especially ironic since these threads are almost always created by completely different people. I think it's DaivRules that needs to look in the mirror and question why he gets so instantly narked about everything.

 

Yeah, for sure, some of us irritating regulars (like myself) we often jump on all these threads and start having a bit of a fun which to some people can be annoying. I get that.

 

I can't vouch for anyone else, but I'm only having fun. If we have to put up with shitty games coming out each and every single day on our trophy ecosystem, why not just live with it and have some fun in the meantime?

 

I think there are way too many people complaining about people complaining about easy trophies. You guys need to get a life and calm down. There's no hate coming form this side.

lol.

 

If websites like Destructoid are finally acknowledging the problem, perhaps something might be done, probably nothing, but you know, better than nothing.

Edited September 8, 2022 by enaysoft

[iriihutoR84]

2 hours ago, Caesar Clown said:

 

These types of games are on the Xbox, and the topics made on the Xbox achievement forums about these types of games are larger than any on these forums. And there are some really angry people there..

 

You are incorrect and you cannot name me one game on Xbox with achievements that is anything similar to these games flooding the PSN store. There are games with easy achievements and yes, people complain about them but they are always actual games. Microsoft would not allow The Jumping Burrito Turbo to have achievements if they released it on Xbox. Therefore it would flop and this wouldn't be an issue.

 

Breakthrough Gaming Arcade games exist on Xbox but guess what? Since they have no achievements they flopped and stopped being released for the platform. The developer is now PlayStation exclusive thanks to Sony's lack of approval process.

Edited September 8, 2022 by iriihutoR84

[Nebnit]

3 hours ago, DaivRules said:

Sony needs to do something to protect the people suffering from clinical obsession of these games existing and obsessively documenting about them over and over again. The documentation they’ve left even here in the forums should be enough to get them the immediate professional help they clearly show that they need. 
 

If you are one of those people who seek out and get dopamine hits because you find someone, somewhere on the internet has posted something about these games existing and your immediate thought is to propagate what you find somewhere else on the internet, or you find a way to somehow relate these games with any negative impacts to humanity, I implore you to seek professional help immediately. No judgment. Your mental health is important.

 

Can I borrow your DSM-5?

[AJ_Radio]

On 9/7/2022 at 3:23 PM, The Alchemist said:

Anyone who has even casually browsed this site at any time over the last few months will be acutely aware of this issue already, because there's been a million and one threads created to discuss the topic. Nothing in that article is news to anyone here. I'm guessing it must have been a slow news day for the writer and they had to come up with something to publish. 

We’re long past the Ratalaika and EastAsiaSoft crap at this point. 
 

Guys like Brian of PS5Trophies fame are pointing out the issue with the PS Store, and I’m sure most of his fans aren’t trophy hunters at all. 
 

Sony has been a shitshow when it comes to releasing decent indie games as most of the good stuff is on Steam and Nintendo Switch. 
 

The trophy ecosystem doesn’t mean much. I really can’t blame Hakoom for finally slowing down, because it’s the same 5 - 10 games every single time. 
 

Play for yourself, set personal goals for yourself, and work towards accomplishing them. Let the eSport competitors, AGDQ speed runners, Tekken & Street Fighter tournament players and Ikemenzi trophy whores do their shit on their own.

[sepheroithisgod]

On 11/30/2020 at 9:54 PM, ScottishNub said:

I don't understand why people complain as it doesn't affect the other platinums and the "value" and the trophy system.

Actually, it does exactly that. In the past, you would see someone who actually had a decent number of platinum trophies and knew they actually put in the effort to earn them. Today, that is not the case. Most larger accounts have a very substantial % of their profiles dedicated to these shovelware titles.

 

It has made leaderboards that include these games in the rankings completely useless, thus making it impossible to accurately compare your gaming feats with others. Instead, you now need to do sleuthing to see if they just stacked a bunch of shovelware titles.

 

While easy games have always existed and will always exist, there is a huge difference between something like Spiderman and Jumping X titles. Spiderman is an actual game that asks you to literally do everything it offers. The same could even be said of Terminator Salvation.

 

They are legitimate games that just happened to have easier trophies, but you're still going to invest some time to achieve everything.

 

On the flip side, shovelware titles are designed specifically to allow you to pop a platinum in 30 seconds. Or in other words, you are literally paying for that platinum, not a game. The idea that this doesn't affect the value of trophies is kinda ridiculous.

 

It's the equivalent of using performance enhancers in sports. The moment you start taking roids, any accomplishments you achieve don't really matter anymore. Everyone will just talk about the roids. Shovelware titles are for the trophy system.

 

They have destroyed leaderboards and even made what would have been considered easy games look like respectable platinums.

 

Of course, this is just the impact they have on the trophy system. What about the actual players? Let's face it anyone buying this trash is legitimately being taken advantage of by these companies. It's a predatory practice that really needs to be addressed.

 

It's even made it much harder to find new games on PSN. In fact, they had to recently change the way the store works to display the best sellers instead of new releases because these shovelware titles are all you would find. It's not a good look for the platform as a whole.

 

In short, all of the complaints are justified, anyone supporting these predatory and destructive practices needs to seek help.

Edited September 12, 2022 by sepheroithisgod

[Gommes_]

I never got why people who aren't able to overcome certain challenges or difficulties in a game wanna be part of a hobby which started with that exact premise. And to be honest I feel bad for this portion of players who have the urge to buy this crap every day.

[TJ_Solo]

21 minutes ago, Gommes_ said:

I never got why people who aren't able to overcome certain challenges or difficulties in a game wanna be part of a hobby which started with that exact premise. And to be honest I feel bad for this portion of players who have the urge to buy this crap every day.

 

And to be fair, after people left the arcades and those public High Score screens they'd go home and use the Konami cheat code, lower the stars on Street Fighter matches, and skip to the back pages of GamePro for more cheat codes. So maybe, the folks that buy EZ games are an extension of the people that used the Nintendo hotline?

 

[Nebnit]

35 minutes ago, TJ_Solo said:

And to be fair, after people left the arcades and those public High Score screens they'd go home and use the Konami cheat code, lower the stars on Street Fighter matches, and skip to the back pages of GamePro for more cheat codes. So maybe, the folks that buy EZ games are an extension of the people that used the Nintendo hotline?

 

No, avid cheaters will keep playing difficult games so they can continue cheating.