Popular Post HaserPL Posted April 28 Popular Post Share Posted April 28 (edited) The guides available online are good when it comes to trophies, but the problem is, that there is not a single guide that tells you everything you need to take care of and keep in mind in one place. I missed one trophy from Women's Lot simply because the base game trophy guide never mentioned I needed to sleep with Stephanie and not Theresa to make it pop. I think this is the first game I played where you miss DLC trophies because of your actions in the base game. So, I decided to make a thread where I will point out every missable trophy, how to obtain them in the least troublesome way, as well as some tips and tricks to make your life easier in the game. Check the end of the post for the tips. Keep in mind that the game is long, has a ton of missable things to take care of, as well as it's not an easy game unless you're willing to exploit its mechanics. Hence, I highly recommend doing two playthroughs, just to make it as easy as possible. Trust me, trying to do all missable trophies, Virgin, Merficul, as well as to get 100% on Hardcore although possible to do, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes if you decide to combine it all into a single playthrough. So if you are interested in getting 100%, here is my recommended road map. 1. "Almost 100%" Playthrough. Simple as that, you will take care of missable trophies for quests, which shouldn't be too problematic, especially if you know what to do in advance. This can take 100h+, mainly because the game is veeeery long and has a lot of fetch quests where you need to go back and forth between locations just to complete a single objective. 2. Hardcore Henry playthrough, + Virgin, + Merciful. This is going to be basically a speed run. You will know how to progress with most main missions, you can focus just on finishing the main story which is gonna be way shorter without worrying about any side content. If you need to clean up something that you've messed up, you should still be able to get it easily, if you make a manual save in a correct spot story-wise. So, before you start you need to know a couple of things. Some quests can be missed if you progress too far into the story, or simply if you talk with someone. This is important with Johanka's missions as well as the Executioner mission's trophy. So, from the moment you start your game, you need to focus on three things. Do not drink alcohol unless you absolutely need it (you can use a skill from lockpicking which allows you to open very hard locks as soon as you reach level 6 while under the influence, otherwise you'd need rank 15 to do it but I wouldn't bother unless you can steal top loot from some merchants). If you need to save somewhere while you do something, you might use the Schnaps but don't overindulge. Save on purchased beds (every city has a bed you can rent for around 200gr) and use the Save & Exit mechanic. This is because you need to be below Drinking level 10 (ALSO DO NOT BUY ANY SKILLS FROM DRINKING IT CAN MESS UP YOUR TROPHIES). Secondly, you need to learn to read in order to win a few trophies in the game, but also you cannot read in order to rebuild Pribislavitz for another trophy. You also need to maintain +80 reputation in every city in the game for King Charming trophy. This one is pesky to deal with, while it is possible to raise reputation in every city even if you are hated by villagers or soldiers, try not to commit any crimes or at least do it smart. You can raise your reputation with civilians by losing in the Dice game, with Traders if you pay more for their goods, and with Soldiers if you happen to encounter a random fight between soldiers and bandits/cumans. So, how do we compromise this during a single playthrough? Also, remember that some quests only become accessible once you talk with an Innkeeper for any work in the area, only then do some quests become available on your map. 1. Before you finish the Prologue, commit any crime in Skalitz for a trophy, and save Theresa during Run! by simply pressing the triangle when you see her getting attacked by the Cumans. 2. Continue on and focus mainly on story missions, side quests don't give you many rewards. 3. During the story mission "Ginger in a pickle" you need to do the quest and make sure Ginger survives (this is one of the early story missions). Find and talk to him at the Stables to get the trophy. Continue until you reach the mission Nest of Vipers but don't do it yet. With this being done, this is the perfect place for you to do some missable trophies. 4. From here you can do Fritz and Matthias trophies for Judas trophy, Andrew is fine to be dead (just make sure to save and reload after getting the trophy to make sure your friends don't die), drink yourself with Father Goodwin, complete Playing with the Devil, win the Talmberg Race, and do In God's Hands quest from Johanka (if you ask her how can you help, this quest becomes time sensitive so make sure you don't ask her that until you can commit to the quest). You can court Theresa for a trophy, and you must court Stephanie to get a shirt from her. Do Robber Baron as it also is missable although the guide says that it isn't. Do the quest Waldensians and it is timed so do it as soon as you get it. You can spend some time getting better gear and level up your skills here as well, as from here on combat will become much more common during the game. 5. Do the story missions until you finish Baptism of Fire. You will wake up in Rattay and this is the time where you cannot continue the story if you want to get missable trophies done. After Baptism of Fire, you will be able to complete Pribislavitz trophies but if you start a story mission from Radzig you will miss the Pestilence trophy! To rebuild the city without being able to read, you simply talk with the guy and choose what to build via dialogue. You have to build the Woodcutters and a Trader before you do anything else, here what you choose doesn't really matter, but make sure to leave the Ratthouse and Church for last as they don't give any income. Build what you want, build the improvements, and you may need to recruit some folks in order to make 2k per day for a trophy (wiki has a great list of what gives the best income). After you get this trophy, finish rebuilding and invite Fritz (they will be in the Inn). After that run straight to the scribe and learn how to read. 6. Now you can do the Questions and Answers story mission, during which you will need to finish the Pestilence trophy (use wiki, it's very easy to miss this trophy). Once you know how to read you can do the trophy Spoilsport, finish the quest Tough Love, and after a while an innkeeper will tell you Hermann needs help, only after you talk to Hermann, this quest becomes time-sensitive. Around this time you should be getting the opportunity to win the Master Huntsman trophy in Talmberg. Do the quest A Man in the Cloth from Innkeeper in Samopesh as well. 7. Progress with the story to get to the Monastery, during which you NEED to talk with the monks in the cellar to start the quest Nasty Habits (no need to finish it). You need to do a quest for Charlatan in Sassau so that he comes to Ledetchko and has another quest for you which is needed for Hans' DLC trophy. When you do all of that, not only do you do most of the missable trophies in the base game, but did everything to get missable trophies in Johanka's part of Women's Lot DLC. Start Johanka's DLC questline after being done with Monastery and you're golden. Follow the guide for the DLC and you should be good to go with this DLC (when doing the donation quest you can mess it up if you say the donation was from you and not the men who gave you the quest, this messed up the trophy for me). Theresa's part of the DLC is easy and does not require any pre-conditions to be met. You can fully complete Hans' DLC here, as well as the Band of Bastards DLC, they have missable trophies but if you follow the guides it will be easy to complete them. One thing to note about King Charming. While Pribislavitz and Kuno camp from DLC do count towards this trophy according to the wiki and some people online, I had over 90 reputations in every city except for Merhojed (you need to help the soldiers with bandits to increase it and I couldn't get a single random encounter to happen), and the Monastery. If you are in this situation, you may want to complete some sidequests during the Monastery to bring the reputation up. I managed to get rep 80 and unlock King Charming after completing just the Torn Pages, and Secret Stash, and starting Nasty Habits (you must talk with the monks in the cellar for the trophy in Women's Lot, but you don't have to finish this quest). 8. Once you have the story mission The Die is Cast, when you enter Vranik it becomes a point of no return for many side quests so make sure you do everything else you want at this stage. If you did all DLC, the quest for completing all quests can pop around here, even if you fail a few easy fetch quests or skipped activities like bringing meat and skins to tanners/butchers. The last two missable trophies from the base game can only be obtained during the remaining story missions, but they are easy to do if you follow the trophy guide. Again, Andrew can be dead for Talmberger. BUT! To unlock the trophy Freud during the mission Family Business you need to have Strength, Charisma, and Speech about level 14/15. The trophy guide says "You need a Speech level of at least 13, or a Charisma level of 11, or a Strength level of 14 for this to work. " but in reality, you need to have all of them as you need to pass each skill check individually, and each skill check requires a different skill. When you defend the trebuchet you can simply avoid getting into the tent and go work on your skills if you need. You should have Strength and Speak quite high at this point, but after all the missions and battles your clothes might be so dirty they will give you 0 charisma. Simply fast travel to a bathhouse and have the clothes washed, this should do the trick. Congratulations! You just finished the game for the first time and if you did everything correctly and followed this thread as well as the individual trophy guides you should only have a few trophies left to do. Although it may seem like doing a Merciful trophy is gonna be tough during your Hardcore Henry run, it actually isn't. The game on Hardcore isn't much more difficult than your first playthrough on Normal, as you already know how the game works etc. Focus on getting through the story missions and skip everything else that you can. Don't court anyone, avoid using the bathhouse at all. Don't drink with Goodwin and don't complete Playing with fire at all, to avoid losing your virginity. The only other chance of voiding this trophy is during Johanka's trial but since you will be skipping it, don't put your mind to it. To make this playthrough easier, here are some tips you can utilize to make things a bit easier for you. * Early on in the game, you can start a quest in Rattay for the huntsman, he will ask you to find and bring some birds to him. Do the quest, and catch the birds, but don't finish this quest. If you keep the bird cages (with birds in them obviously), simply drop one cage on the ground and you will see exactly where you are on the map. Pretty handy right? Just remember to pick them up as you do not want to lose your only method of getting around the map. * Even though you can sneak your way through most missions and simply knock out enemies, sometimes you will have to fight with someone. Because of this you should avoid using swords for this playthrough and stick to Maces, as they do not cause your opponents to bleed as much, thus if you strike them a few times they will surrender easily. Have Lullaby potions on you at all times, if you must sneak somewhere you can poison their food or wine and spike it with Lullaby, and when they consume it, you can easily knock them out. * On hardcore fast travel is disabled, but you can make it work if you level up your drinking early on. There is a perk that will allow you to wake up in your own bed after passing out from being drunk, without losing any items. You will wake in the bed closest to you at the time, keep that in mind. * One easy way to get lots of coins and good armor is to abuse the shit out of the economic system. When you start your game, most trades won't have that much coin with them. One way to abuse this is to pick a trader of your choosing and always sell everything that you have on you, even if they cannot afford to buy everything right away. Think of it as an investment that will be worth the wait. If you basically give them items for free, with time they will start to have more coins. If you keep at it for a while, some traders will have more than 50k +. During my playthrough, I only sold items to traders in Rattay (all traders close to each other) as well as Miller Peshek. By the time I wanted to rebuild Pribislavitz, the traders had around 250k combined. If you have Luck of the Drunk perk in Lockpicking which allows you to pick Very Hard locks as soon as level 6, you can simply find their Very Hard chests during the night, and steal all the money they own. Every trader has a chest somewhere near the shop which contains every item as well as cash they own. You can even get that little sociopath out of you and buy whatever you want provided you have the cash, buy the item so that it is obtained legally and can be sold anywhere, and steal back the coins you just paid. I used this to "buy" items from Rattay, and sell them in Sassau. By the end of the game, I had nearly 500k and the best items in the game. * If you want to make some coins in the earlier stages, you can use the Tournament DLC for this. Whenever you get the notification that A tournament will begin tomorrow, every participant will come to the area next to the fighting arena and will go to sleep in their full armor set. Simply sneak to the room where they sleep, knock them out, and steal their items. There can be a guard who may interrupt you, but if you save just before knocking them out you should be good to go. Steal all their items, slowly walk to the Lodgings, and put the items into your chest. Fast Travel to Rattay Mill and you can sell all stolen items to Peshek. The next day participants will only wear their underwear so they become much easier to defeat, and you need to win the tournament 5 times to get the full set of armor for a trophy. The tournament starts every week, so you can sleep/eat/pass time until a new one starts, and do it again and again. If you're persistent, by the time you do it for the 5th time, you will get the set of armor for a trophy, level up your combat skills a bit, make some coins as rewards, and have a few dozen thousand of Groshen to steal from Peshek for all the loot you sell him. * To have as many Savior Shnapps at you as you want, learn how to read early on and work on your alchemy skills to brew them yourself. The ingredients are a bit hard to come by, but you can check some maps on the wiki for good locations. I was able to get 300 belladonnas in under an hour, which gave me nearly 150 schnapps after brewing them myself. 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lordjoda Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I was looking for exactly this! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creasy007 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 This is literally the sort of thing I've been after before finally starting this one. I've been worried about the missable quests like crazy but haven't found a good list for them all, let alone the missable trophies, so this should help so much. Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaserPL Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 3 hours ago, Creasy007 said: This is literally the sort of thing I've been after before finally starting this one. I've been worried about the missable quests like crazy but haven't found a good list for them all, let alone the missable trophies, so this should help so much. Thank you!! During my playthrough, I had to check every single missable trophy from the base game and look up on Wiki when it became missable, it wasn't fun let me tell you that. And I still ended up missing Johanka's DLC trophies, but I can do them during my hardcore run, just gotta make a manual save after the monastery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaserPL Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 Also, if anyone decides to copy this with some small variation and make a "gameplay guide" out of it, at least be decent enough to include me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCoresDad Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Have you considered making your own trophy guide for this game? If the current one isn't up to snuff, sometimes it can be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaserPL Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 Just now, SpaceCoresDad said: Have you considered making your own trophy guide for this game? If the current one isn't up to snuff, sometimes it can be replaced. The last trophy guide I wrote for The Long Dark took me nearly 100 hours to finish. I don't have the time to write a proper guide for every game that needs one, as much as I'd like to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creasy007 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 54 minutes ago, HaserPL said: During my playthrough, I had to check every single missable trophy from the base game and look up on Wiki when it became missable, it wasn't fun let me tell you that. And I still ended up missing Johanka's DLC trophies, but I can do them during my hardcore run, just gotta make a manual save after the monastery. I reached out to the subreddit for the game a few years back and the few responses were ridiculously nasty for no good reason, so I gave up. Even as painstakingly detailed as your post is, I still worry I'd make one little mistake that'd require a whole new playthrough, but I got to play this a little bit some years back and had such an immersive time with it that I really wanna go full speed ahead on it now and try to get 100%, as impossible as it'd likely be for me. It's just so much fun, but my backlog never stops growing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaserPL Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 Just now, Creasy007 said: I reached out to the subreddit for the game a few years back and the few responses were ridiculously nasty for no good reason, so I gave up. Even as painstakingly detailed as your post is, I still worry I'd make one little mistake that'd require a whole new playthrough, but I got to play this a little bit some years back and had such an immersive time with it that I really wanna go full speed ahead on it now and try to get 100%, as impossible as it'd likely be for me. It's just so much fun, but my backlog never stops growing either. If you make a separate manual save in each spot I pointed out as 1) 2) 3) etc, even if somehow you miss something, you won't have to do too much to get back on track. Now after doing the playthrough, I truly believe there are just a few missable trophies (except for the DLC), mainly because most of the missable stuff can be done pretty much at any point during the game before entering Vranik (and the pestilence trophy), just a handful of missions can be missed if you run around and accept every quest without doing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creasy007 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 45 minutes ago, HaserPL said: If you make a separate manual save in each spot I pointed out as 1) 2) 3) etc, even if somehow you miss something, you won't have to do too much to get back on track. Now after doing the playthrough, I truly believe there are just a few missable trophies (except for the DLC), mainly because most of the missable stuff can be done pretty much at any point during the game before entering Vranik (and the pestilence trophy), just a handful of missions can be missed if you run around and accept every quest without doing them. See that was the vibe I always had, that there's a certain point that, if you don't cross it, the missables are nowhere near as stressful. My fear was that there'd be that one key mission or a chunk of them that I'd miss if I entered X town or talked to Y guy, effectively killing an entire run in the process just from one mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaserPL Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 15 minutes ago, Creasy007 said: See that was the vibe I always had, that there's a certain point that, if you don't cross it, the missables are nowhere near as stressful. My fear was that there'd be that one key mission or a chunk of them that I'd miss if I entered X town or talked to Y guy, effectively killing an entire run in the process just from one mistake. If you don't care about DLC then only the Pestilence trophy forces you to do it as soon as you trigger the Q&A quest, everything else is only missable if you accept everything like a madman and don't bother to finish it. The Women's Lot DLC makes things harder, unfortunately, as you need to do a few quests from the main game to have an impact on the DLC progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creasy007 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 7 minutes ago, HaserPL said: If you don't care about DLC then only the Pestilence trophy forces you to do it as soon as you trigger the Q&A quest, everything else is only missable if you accept everything like a madman and don't bother to finish it. The Women's Lot DLC makes things harder, unfortunately, as you need to do a few quests from the main game to have an impact on the DLC progression. Like you said earlier, it is wild just how much the base game winds up affecting later DLC missions and vice versa. I'm a fan of 100% completion when I can, so I'll probably go for all of them, but it's still requiring me to get over the stress of remembering everything, diving in, and getting that first trophy so there's no turning back. I just really don't like having to put in dozens of hours extra into a whole new playthrough because one random thing was overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaserPL Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 Just now, Creasy007 said: Like you said earlier, it is wild just how much the base game winds up affecting later DLC missions and vice versa. I'm a fan of 100% completion when I can, so I'll probably go for all of them, but it's still requiring me to get over the stress of remembering everything, diving in, and getting that first trophy so there's no turning back. I just really don't like having to put in dozens of hours extra into a whole new playthrough because one random thing was overlooked. To be fair, during your Hardcore/Merciful run you can make up any missed trophies, as none of them require you to kill, so its just a few extra hours to get some smaller quests done. Could be much worse, trust me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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