Are DLC trophies becoming a lot less common?

[shadaik]

Recently, the last archon quest got stuck for me because a character was involved in another quest. Turns out that was Tatarasuna, a side quest back from Inazuma.

That quest has a trophy attached to its completion, "Second Blooming", which is one of the rarer trophies in the game, and is known to end in a particularly hard/annoying escort/protection battle. So I guess main quest trophies are going to become rarer because of that annoying roadblock?

Edited March 31, 2023 by shadaik

[DiegoDolmetscher]

On 31/3/2023 at 8:29 AM, shadaik said:

Recently, the last archon quest got stuck for me because a character was involved in another quest. Turns out that was Tatarasuna, a side quest back from Inazuma.

That quest has a trophy attached to its completion, "Second Blooming", which is one of the rarer trophies in the game, and is known to end in a particularly hard/annoying escort/protection battle. So I guess main quest trophies are going to become rarer because of that annoying roadblock?

 

Fair point: I'm stuck as well.

I wish they made things easier, especially the Abyss.

 

Also, I don't know for how long the PS4 version will be supported with the trophies - until 2025?

[Dark_Overlord]

You can always temporarily lower your world rank and make it far easier

[shadaik]

14 hours ago, Dark_Overlord said:

You can always temporarily lower your world rank and make it far easier

Due to the mission being a protection mission and my own health bar not being the problem: Doesn't help much. I myself get through it fine, but the purification device is about as sturdy as a snowball inside the sun. One time I almost did get through and an enemy that was focused on me killed the thing by standing in place next to it with its AoE while shooting at me. This is especially annoying because the enemies that spawn in the fight are not even that tough, just a bit tank-y. I mean, the quest is possible to do, but it's really frustrating and annoying and I imagine many people will just not bother.

I'm at one attempt a day due to how annoying it is, but I think quite a few people will not even bother this much. The associated tropy being at about 5% on PS4 says as much.

[StarWolf3000]

The final part in the Tatarasuna Tales checks if you're able to do enough DPS and can maximize elemental reactions.

 

Like with that one (coop-locking) sidequest in Tianqiu, Liyue, buffing yourself with food and elemental potions will greatly help in completing it before the Fatui will destroy the machine, also you can use Amber's Elemental skill (R2) to crowd control away from the machine.

[Dark_Overlord]

2 hours ago, shadaik said:

Due to the mission being a protection mission and my own health bar not being the problem: Doesn't help much. I myself get through it fine, but the purification device is about as sturdy as a snowball inside the sun. One time I almost did get through and an enemy that was focused on me killed the thing by standing in place next to it with its AoE while shooting at me. This is especially annoying because the enemies that spawn in the fight are not even that tough, just a bit tank-y. I mean, the quest is possible to do, but it's really frustrating and annoying and I imagine many people will just not bother.

I'm at one attempt a day due to how annoying it is, but I think quite a few people will not even bother this much. The associated tropy being at about 5% on PS4 says as much.

 

What characters are you using and at what levels?  Also do you have artifact sets on them?

[DiegoDolmetscher]

5 hours ago, shadaik said:

Due to the mission being a protection mission and my own health bar not being the problem: Doesn't help much. I myself get through it fine, but the purification device is about as sturdy as a snowball inside the sun. One time I almost did get through and an enemy that was focused on me killed the thing by standing in place next to it with its AoE while shooting at me. This is especially annoying because the enemies that spawn in the fight are not even that tough, just a bit tank-y. I mean, the quest is possible to do, but it's really frustrating and annoying and I imagine many people will just not bother.

I'm at one attempt a day due to how annoying it is, but I think quite a few people will not even bother this much. The associated tropy being at about 5% on PS4 says as much.

 

I agree.

The main problem, I reckon, is that Hoyoverse is making these missions increasingly challenging - especially the ones with the countdown.

I mean, I've been playing Genshin since day-one on my PS4 Pro and I love it... but what I love is the lore and the exploration.

I don't want it to have challenging achievements... ?

[shadaik]

On 5.4.2023 at 0:06 PM, Dark_Overlord said:

 

What characters are you using and at what levels?  Also do you have artifact sets on them?

Anemo Traveler, Nahida, Amber, Lisa. I usually use Dendro Traveler but switched to Ameno for their crowd control. Amber and Lisa I use for overload damage. Nahida basically just fills the ranks, might as well be a blank space, she's there because of the constant need for dendro in Sumeru. Everyone except Nahida is at level  90 and fully equipped.

My current plan is to level up Cyno and replace Lisa, he played really well in the trials. I do have C6 Bennett but never used, equipped or leveled him because I just don't like the character, but I do hear good things about his usefulness  - should I put some work into him? I've been thinking about replacing Amber as my pyro unit, but then I'd have to reshuffle my team because I do want an archer.

 

The thing is, I can easily kill just about everything the game throws at me and haven't seen a death screen since Dragonspine - but I take my time to do it and that is something this quest (and the Abyss, which I can easily ignore) don't take kindly to.

[Dark_Overlord]

11 hours ago, shadaik said:

Anemo Traveler, Nahida, Amber, Lisa. I usually use Dendro Traveler but switched to Ameno for their crowd control. Amber and Lisa I use for overload damage. Nahida basically just fills the ranks, might as well be a blank space, she's there because of the constant need for dendro in Sumeru. Everyone except Nahida is at level  90 and fully equipped.

My current plan is to level up Cyno and replace Lisa, he played really well in the trials. I do have C6 Bennett but never used, equipped or leveled him because I just don't like the character, but I do hear good things about his usefulness  - should I put some work into him? I've been thinking about replacing Amber as my pyro unit, but then I'd have to reshuffle my team because I do want an archer.

 

The thing is, I can easily kill just about everything the game throws at me and haven't seen a death screen since Dragonspine - but I take my time to do it and that is something this quest (and the Abyss, which I can easily ignore) don't take kindly to.

 

Def get Cyno leveled up, your team really doesn't have what would be considered a DPS.

 

Bennett is great, he's so easy to build and works great as a healer and damage buffer at the same time..

 

The issue with Dendro is it really needs a hydro character to be effective (to produce blooms), as it stands Nahida really isn't benefitting your team much at the minute.

 

If you really are set on that team, I'd drop Nahida for Bennett (Pyro Resonance increases attack) and get Cyno in ASAP

[shadaik]

Thanks, will do. I forgot about the attack boost, as I always use the elemental defence boost of having a 4-element team.

Edited April 7, 2023 by shadaik

[DiegoDolmetscher]

New trophies just added...

 

 

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[ZOLANTON]

I think the only reason that the trophies get less common is because people just move on from the game. The game's been nearly 3 years old and it keeps taking a lot of space on the PS4 (PC as well), so I believe most players just delete the game and don't re-install for 1-2 trophies.

 

The trophies are, in my opinion, as easy as they can be. Definitely easy for a regular player (even free-to-play), but may seem a bit daunting for players just in for the trophies. It all comes down to have 2 good teams and you can clear ALL of the content they throw at you. I am confident that my Hu Tao team will be able to clean everything until the game shuts down.

 

As for your team, I would definitely remove Lisa and Amber. There are so many better 4* characters that can replace them. Since you have Cyno, build a team around him. His best teammates are Nahida (who you already have) + Xingqiu (who is 4* and easy to get) OR Yelan (5*, rarer to get but more damage) + any other character you want (Zhongli, Bennett, Kuki Shinobu, Sucrose are all ideal). Hyperbloom Cyno is an amazing team, you'll see that your damage will sky-rocket.

[DiegoDolmetscher]

On 13/4/2023 at 8:37 AM, ZOLANTON said:

I think the only reason that the trophies get less common is because people just move on from the game. The game's been nearly 3 years old and it keeps taking a lot of space on the PS4 (PC as well), so I believe most players just delete the game and don't re-install for 1-2 trophies.

 

The trophies are, in my opinion, as easy as they can be. Definitely easy for a regular player (even free-to-play), but may seem a bit daunting for players just in for the trophies. It all comes down to have 2 good teams and you can clear ALL of the content they throw at you. I am confident that my Hu Tao team will be able to clean everything until the game shuts down.

 

As for your team, I would definitely remove Lisa and Amber. There are so many better 4* characters that can replace them. Since you have Cyno, build a team around him. His best teammates are Nahida (who you already have) + Xingqiu (who is 4* and easy to get) OR Yelan (5*, rarer to get but more damage) + any other character you want (Zhongli, Bennett, Kuki Shinobu, Sucrose are all ideal). Hyperbloom Cyno is an amazing team, you'll see that your damage will sky-rocket.

 

Well said.
My only problem is still the DLC of the Abyss - three trophies left... - that's way I need to improve the skills of my team.
I love using Zhongli and Xiao, for example, but they are still "Constellation 1"... and also their talents need to be improved.

 

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[ZOLANTON]

1 hour ago, DiegoDolmetscher said:

 

Well said.
My only problem is still the DLC of the Abyss - three trophies left... - that's way I need to improve the skills of my team.
I love using Zhongli and Xiao, for example, but they are still "Constellation 1"... and also their talents need to be improved.

 

 

Constellations do not matter in the game unless you plan to get 36* on Abyss or if you want to showcase your character for ridiculously high numbers. I also have Zhongli at C1 but that was lucky since I got him twice in a single 10-pull. Him and Tartaglia are the only 5* not in the Standard banner that I have at C1. All 5* characters (maybe except Childe) perform excellently at C0.

 

Xiao + Zhongli is a team of its own, you just stick in any two characters you need (Jean and Albedo for example) and you are set.

 

Talents should be at least level 8 for Xiao's Normal Attack and Elemental Burst (9 if you can afford it), since his Burst damage scales off his Normal Attack talent level. Skill has last priority. Find for him 4 good Vermillion Hereafter artifacts and he should destroy everything.

 

For Zhongli, if you play him strictly as a shield bot, stick as much HP on him as possible, then focus on leveling his elemental skill (around 8) and you are set.

 

If you also need help with character building, then you may want to take a look at this spreadsheet, it offers some great tips on every character:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNxZ2xab1J6o1TuNVWMeLOZ7TPOqrsf3SshP5DLvKzI/htmlview?pru=AAABdXYM80o*xMxXJdNbCCZ-v9FLVh6EXg#