Boh717 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Hi everybody, today I was checking my earned trophy in rarity orders, and these two uncharted 3 trophies caught my attention: https://psnprofiles.com/trophy/1126-Uncharted-3-Drakes-Deception/68-Hoarder | https://psnprofiles.com/trophy/1126-Uncharted-3-Drakes-Deception/78-Collector About 300K users can achieve those trophies, but only 1k actually achieve them. Percentage is 10%. Now, if math doesn't fool me, right percentage should be 3% (with varoius approximation, of course). Am I missing anything? Or new DLC-based rarity has a bug? Edited April 28, 2013 by Boh717 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatter392 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 It depends on the DLC owners now. About 10000 people have the DLC and about 1000 achieved this. So it's 10%, makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 I know it, I don't write things at random. As I wrote, owners count was set to 300K. Where do you read 10K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memnoch Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 No, it says 10670 for that dlc ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Could you please tell me where you read it? EDIT: sorry, just found it. But look at this link and search #783: https://psnprofiles.com/Boh717/log?order=rarity&dir=asc As you can see owners is 300K... Edited April 28, 2013 by Boh717 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebin Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Look up the game, go to the trophy list, scroll down to the DLC. It should say Owners right next to the name of the DLC pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatter392 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Here is an example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memnoch Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 First line of DLC 2 (name and number of trophies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 I edit my previous post, check the link ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memnoch Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Ok I see what you mean ... The trophy advisor isnt pointing to the right number ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebin Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 That's the amount of owners for the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 Yes, it's the total amount of owners of the game and yes, it should not be there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreTheVictim Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 He understand what you're all saying guys, but he means that this should be fixed someway or another. But I have no clue how, since I don't think there's any more space for a DLC name/number and the owners of that DLC. I'm sure Sly has or is able to find a solution for that, but I think he's pretty busy lately since I haven't seen him much the last couple days or week. But he sure did an excellent job on the statitics page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aipher Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I had a long discussion about this issue in the announcement thread made in the Development Updates forum. The way DLC percentages works now is that if someone didn't get a trophy in the DLC they are not used in the calculation. Basically there could be a lot more people unaccounted for because they didn't get 1 trophy in the DLC, so real rarity % is off. That aside, you are right for this particular issue. It should show the number of owners of DLC somewhere instead of total number of game owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniezutton Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) ... The percentage/rarity is based off the amount of individuals whom of which have obtained that trophy. https://psnprofiles.com/forums/topic/6118-dlc-trophies-rarity-is-now-based-on-who-owns-the-dlc/ Edited April 29, 2013 by DRaGoN-_-TaMeR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreTheVictim Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 ... The percentage/rarity is based off the amount of individuals whom of which have obtained that trophy. https://psnprofiles.com/forums/topic/6118-dlc-trophies-rarity-is-now-based-on-who-owns-the-dlc/ I'm pretty sure he found out after 5 similar replies.... I don't know why I'm still trying... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 I had a long discussion about this issue in the announcement thread made in the Development Updates forum. The way DLC percentages works now is that if someone didn't get a trophy in the DLC they are not used in the calculation. Basically there could be a lot more people unaccounted for because they didn't get 1 trophy in the DLC, so real rarity % is off. That aside, you are right for this particular issue. It should show the number of owners of DLC somewhere instead of total number of game owners. Yeah, I read how it works. Probably it's not the best precise way to count DLC owners, but it's surely the fastest one and on the average it perfectly works, also because who purchases a DLC often earn its trophies. I'm pretty sure he found out after 5 similar replies.... I don't know why I'm still trying... Thanks for your support ;-D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memnoch Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 It'll probably be looked into. I think it wasnt clear ro most that you meant the advisor page as the first frw links dont (didnt in any case) show there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Yes, I had some clarity problems =P Anyway, it's not trophy advisor, it's the list of my earned trophies ordered by rarity. I don't know if it affects trophy advisor too. Edited May 1, 2013 by Boh717 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 No fix yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragowit Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Here's an image from trophy log highlighting the problem. The problem is that "OWNERS" at this place is counted for the game, and not the specific DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh717 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yes, it is what I'm talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Ripper Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Fixed: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusennin Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Since the relevant development topic about the new trophy advisor has been closed, I'll mention here that this revised system doesn't work for many pre-2010 games like BioShock 1 & 2, which DLC trophies were not displayed separately (with the + sign on top of the trophy icon) but instead counted as standard trophies. For example, Minerva's Den trophies are considered "ultra rare" by the trophy advisor, although I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be that rare if they were properly filed as DLC trophies. https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/3-BioShock https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/223-BioShock-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragowit Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 This is probably because how the trophies/DLC are treated/stored on Sony's servers. I believe this site tries to do most stuff automatically by using the information that can be accessed from Sony. Going through all pre-2010 games to fix DLC trophies because Sony don't have that information themselves requires a lot of manual work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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