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The group PS3 Reborn has announced the revival of the servers for Wolfenstein  around 20 minutes ago.

 

2 things to know about this 

 

1. The servers are not approved so using them will get you removed from leaderboards

 

2. Ranks reset every time you leave the game. They are working on a fix for this issue but they don’t know when it will be or if it’s possible. 
 

I think there might be a glitch to get the ranks done fast but don’t quote me on that 

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21 minutes ago, RedDeadSeriesNW said:

Ok. let me know if psn profile Mfs allow to get trophies using the server.

They allow it, you just won't appear in the leaderboards/achievers standings if you do.

 

You can continue using the site even with those trophies.

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Now seriously 

 

Will some madman do a 40h grind without turning off the console or praying the internet doesn't crap out?

 

Also regarding the glitch that op mentions, is not available as it relies on the leaderboard, which is broken.

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Yep another game I would love to plat but I can't,due to rules

My opinion on this is

If someone wants to cheat 

He will cheat 

If someone wants to be legit,he will not cheat,simple

No matter if the server is on or not 

I say this because i believe one of the reasons this isn't allowed is because people can get advantage from the owners of the servers to get trophies faster

Another thing that doesn't make sense for me 

"Is not intended by sony"

This is a trophy site , we should put the effort that people put on getting trophies always in first place

As far as i know you don't break sony "rules" by using other people's save

It isn't allowed here (for obvious reasons)

Sony doesn't care at all about any ps3 stuff anymore 

I can't see any actual wrong reasons for not allowing those server that only need a different dns

I see that everyone would like this and I can't understand trophy hunters that wouldn't approve it

This is my opinion,how i see those rules

Nothing More than this

 

EDIT 1: I believe that another reason is that,it should be accessible for everyone,but as far as i know you just don't need to put a dns on most of those servers?

How can people be unable to access it?

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5 hours ago, Erzie said:


"You're allowed to commit murder, you'll just go to jail"


This is how to identify if people take playing video games and the related digital awards too seriously. They think scenarios involving rules for participation can be related to crimes, even as far as murder. 
 

 

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6 hours ago, AmazingNoeder said:

EDIT 1: I believe that another reason is that,it should be accessible for everyone,but as far as i know you just don't need to put a dns on most of those servers?

How can people be unable to access it?

I personally don't like the idea of trophies from custom servers to be allowed. 

There are so many things that can be exploited.

 

I think the requirement of "only allowed if everyone forever will be able to host and join their own server without any CFW" is good compromise.

 

Right now i'm sure there are servers in "beta" only available to few who joined some discord server.

I think there are some closed behind patreon paywall. Not 100% on that, I remember reading about them.

 

Should they be allowed?

What when previously open to everyone server puts a paywall to enter?

 

What happens when custom server admin doesn't like some people and bans them? Tough luck?

 

It's fine to play, everyone can have their own fun in games but I like It's allowed on leaderboard only if it’s trully available to anyone forever and we don't have to worry about "what-ifs".

 

It's just most people think psnprofiles rule on custom servers goes like:

"Are custom servers allowed?"

"Yes, but..."

 

When it really goes

"Are custom servers allowed?"

"No, unless..."

 

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54 minutes ago, WiktorM101 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

What happens when custom server admin doesn't like some people and bans them? Tough luck?

 

It's fine to play, everyone can have their own fun in games but I like It's allowed on leaderboard only if it’s trully available to anyone forever and we don't have to worry about "what-ifs".

 

 

I do understand your point of view 

But isn't it contradictory to say that the reason for not allowing the custom server is that some people will "maybe in the future without any solid reason" not have access to it?

And not allowing on the rules by the reason above will make Everyone  unable to access?

 

"If there's a paywall" you mean you can only access the server paying?

Isn't here the place (profiles) that everyone says that people can't use any pirated games cuz they aren't spending money on them?

Even when people didn't cheat at all,just didn't payed on the game

 

Playstation home

And transformers servers

They literally just seems available to absolutely anyone who just really wants to join 

I can't see anything wrong or any restriction (I can be wrong on those 2 servers but this is what it looks like for me, you can correct me about those 2 if you have info)

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1 minute ago, AmazingNoeder said:

 

"If there's a paywall" you mean you can only access the server paying?

Isn't here the place (profiles) that everyone says that people can't use any pirated games cuz they aren't spending money on them?

Even when people didn't cheat at all,just didn't payed on the game


No. That’s not being said here. 
 

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30 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

I do understand your point of view 

But isn't it contradictory to say that the reason for not allowing the custom server is that some people will "maybe in the future without any solid reason" not have access to it?

And not allowing on the rules by the reason above will make Everyone  unable to access?

 

Look, from my point of view rules just aviod "what-ifs".

You seem to have perspective that you will face any problems when they arise.

 

So I will ask you

What would you do in the situation?

Let's take these wolfenstein servers here

They don't work 100% now, progress don't save from what i understand but let's say we allow them and people get their trophies

 

After they fixed the servers and it is possible to save your progress etc

1. Admin feel now it's fair to charge money for them. To access you have to pay monthly on admin's patreon and be on his discord. 

2. He had some issues with some forum users, don't like lets say me.

He bans my PSN ID/IP from joining ever (or after i got 1 trophy so it stays on my profile forever).

3. Decides in 2027 that servers cost him too much, closes it and won't allow anyone to take over (doesn'tshare code).

 

How would you personally resolve these issues?

When trophies are ok on leaderboard and when they aren't?

My solution (and psnprofiles as a whole) is to avoid it all together simply not allowing the thing to happen.

 

30 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

"If there's a paywall" you mean you can only access the server paying?

Isn't here the place (profiles) that everyone says that people can't use any pirated games cuz they aren't spending money on them?

Even when people didn't cheat at all,just didn't payed on the game

You don't have to pay to enter wolfenstein servers but custom servers where you have to pay to enter likely exist from what I have read.

 

I don't understand the rest of what you said here but from my understanding nobody has problem with piracy here.

Just CFW is the problem (it's unavoidable to have strange timestamps with CFW or something idk)

Afaik you have good timestamps = you are fine.

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24 minutes ago, DaivRules said:


No. That’s not being said here. 
 

I don't know if you misunderstood me

I meant that several members multiple times already said this,i saw,and you probably did too

People need to pay plus to play online 

There were paid online passes before 

Funny enough i do believe most of the privated servers doesn't even need to be payed 

All the wrong things showed are only "IF"

there's quite a long time that those servers are there 

What already happened?

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3 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

I don't know if you misunderstood me

I meant that several members multiple times already said this,i saw,and you probably did too

People need to pay plus to play online 

There were paid online passes before 

Funny enough i do believe most of the privated servers doesn't even need to be payed 

All the wrong things showed are only "IF"

there's quite a long time that those servers are there 

What already happened?


No. No one is checking if games are pirated here. We just won’t facilitate people pirating games. 
 

And everything you’re going on about are non sequiturs. 
 

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All your sentence @WiktorM101about possible issues that will maybe never happen

Can be resolved by things already Said on the rules 

"Use by your on risk "

If you want to risk those bad stuff to happen go ahead

About the cfw

Using cfw to only play games without paying will never fuck your timestamps out of nowhere, people just decide to cheat cuz is more accessible 

In fact is more easy to fuck you timestamps using a OFW ps5 with the glitch that trophies doesn't pop

Or a ps4 that shows an error that trophies doesn't pop

Or using the exploit on the vita wrongly 

Is literally more easy and likely to fuck your timestamps using an OFW 

1 minute ago, DaivRules said:


No. No one is checking if games are pirated here. We just won’t facilitate people pirating games. 
 

And everything you’re going on about are non sequiturs. 
 

People disagree and say that is completely wrong and bad

I didn't said they are checking 

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1 minute ago, AmazingNoeder said:

People disagree and say that is completely wrong and bad

I didn't said they are checking 


And you’re conflating that with being against the leaderboard rules. They’re not the same thing and you’re leaning into logical fallacies. 
 

 

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14 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

All your sentence @WiktorM101about possible issues that will maybe never happen

 

2/3 already exist

 

I just don't know about any closed revival project. 

Let's be honest, they have to ban trolls and cheaters so there are profiles without access.

Paywall/closed access to custom servers are out there.

 

14 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

Can be resolved by things already Said on the rules 

"Use by your on risk "

Then we are good. 

Solved. Use of your own risk of not beeing on leaderboard. 

It's not the end of the world. 

Nobody will mock you here for using transformers server. You just can't participate on thing that most people don't even care about.

 

The piracy thing is more of your issue then psnprofiles one as I don't see anything said on rules about piracy, just about CFW. 

 

Like you said

14 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

Using cfw to only play games without paying will never fuck your timestamps out of nowhere, people just decide to cheat cuz is more accessible

Havn't seem even 1 flagged game with reason "it was pirated" 

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Why "possible" being paid would be reason enough to Don't allow on leaderboard?

People pay plus to play online 

Online passes on ps3

Games with trophies only accessible by paying dlc

 

Hoo there's a risk of being banned by the mod, risk of the service ending 

How many online trophies became impossible by server closure without warning?

People already got unattainable trophies 

By being banned on power rangers for boosting 

Already got this literally by the own company mistakes without doing nothing wrong (being banned by Activision on cod modern warfare)

I can give soo many examples 

If a trophy is online there's already always a risk

Right now i can only see people being unable to get online trophies legit without doing nothing wrong 

(I'm not talking about every single custom server)

8 minutes ago, WiktorM101 said:

 

 

Like you said

Havn't seem even 1 flagged game with reason "it was pirated" 

Already happened , but got lifted 

 

8 minutes ago, WiktorM101 said:

 

Then we are good. 

Solved. Use of your own risk of not beeing on leaderboard. 

 

 

There's no risk on this,you will be removed 

 Allowing some custom servers  would help people being able to actually achieve the online trophies of those games

People who want to cheat,are already cheating and editing timestamps everyday 

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I just wanted to know,when i first asked, what's soo wrong that will not be allowed,that will literally ban people from the leaderboard 

Only thing that i could get is

Literally things that already happens in normal servers

And if allowing the use of custom servers (not all) with a warning of "use at your own risk" would resolve any possible future issues

If there's new wrong ,bad or harmful things related to using custom servers 

It could be mentioned 

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3 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

Why "possible" being paid would be reason enough to Don't allow on leaderboard?

Look, i asked you on solution to set of problems that may happen.

 

Your first response was "well that may never happen"

 

While at least 2/3 already exist 

Now you are just saying these are not problems at all. And I understand it.

 

You feel that custom servers have the similar problems as any other servers.

 

But I don't think that's the good mentality to have while creating set of arbitrary rules that are supposed to create fair ground on trophy site.

 

Closed access servers are very problematic as not everyone may be ever allowed to get in.

We don't talk only money here. 

Requirement to join may be totally arbitrary. Anything Admin might want.

 

Rules help people to avoid that saying

"Leaderboard only accepts trophies available to everyone"

 

4 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

I just wanted to know,when i first asked, what's soo wrong that will not be allowed,that will literally ban people from the leaderboard 

That's the funny part. It won't literally ban you. Psnprofiles just doesn't want this 1 specific trophy list you got on leaderboard. 

You hide it you are back.

I guess with custom servers that don't require CFW there would be case to be made to allow 3+ of these flans and still not ban you permamently. 

 

The only thing that permamently bans you is CFW

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When i say ban

Is that you will not be on the leaderboard with those trophies 

Yes you are right some servers will have arbitrary rules but the ones that don't have,the ones that people can just go there,put the dns and get the online trophies legit, aren't allowed 

There's a lot of people going into playstation home and just playing it normally 

I never saw any issues or bad things on servers like transformers or playstation home

Looks like those people just want to bring the servers back

I can be wrong as I said,but i still don't see anything actually bad that is happing or already happened on some custom servers,all problems are "maybe" can happen and the only person that will get problems will be the person trying to access them

If you say use at your own risk you give the free will for people to choose if they want to "risk" 

Denying this only makes it not accessible to anyone 

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36 minutes ago, AmazingNoeder said:

 Already happened , but got lifted 

So whats your problem?

You complain how it isn't allowed while providing information it gets lifted when reported.

 

I don't understand you dude...

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I didn't said at any time that I don't agree to the fact that it got lifted 

You said that you never saw

I said it already happened,and i saw once

This isn't a battlefield 

I'm expressing my opinion 

And sharing things that already happened 

 

Honestly,no custom server will be allowed, if it isn't open source,regardless of what happens or might happen 

And that's a shame 

I already knew this,i just wanted to know what's soo bad

And it was already said and discussed

And i already showed my point of view 

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