Is it worth the Money ?

[SkyMason]

Critics are giving Blizzard a free pass. For $60, gamers are only getting a third of a game, if that. Titanfall was hammered for its “lack” of content, but Overwatch’s dearth of content is overlooked? Halo 5 was hammered for a short campaign and missing local co-p, but Overwatch doesn’t even have a campaign! Yet it’s a 90 Metascore? Overwatch only has 2 game modes, no co-op, no campaign, no meaningful progression, a handful of maps—yet all this is overlooked. No other title has gotten away with such blatant exclusions. It all proves how critics are not only full of **** they play favorites too.

Crappy matchmaking is the first problem. Random/solo players often get paired with premade teams and get crushed. I see the same problem with Battleborn. It’s absolutely game-breaking. Overwatch favors teams, so groups ought to play against other groups. Instead, Blizzard is pushing speedy matchmaking over quality matchmaking. Most matches are completely lopsided with one team getting early momentum and maintaining it throughout the entire match. If a lobby of random players wins too many matches, Overwatch breaks up the lobby and puts the players in different games. I’m serious. Penalizing random players for winning is bull**** especially since premade teams have the upper hand.

Overwatch doesn’t balance teams either. There’s no limit on the occurrences of each character. In other words, players on a team can use the same character and spam abilities. I recently left a match where all players on the enemy team choose Mei and spammed her ice wall. My team was locked in spawn. I’ve seen other teams spam D.Va because of her ridiculously OP ultimate.

And like all hero shooters, some characters are vastly superior to others. There’s a reason so many people run around as Tracer, D.Va, Reaper, Bastion, and Soldier 76. They’re fast, can self-heal, and are really hard to hit. Despite its composition, Overwatch plays more like COD than Team Fortress 2. The pacing is fast and games aren’t tactical.

Players favor run-and-gun lone wolf play that isn’t conducive here. There’s little incentive to experiment. Bastion and D.Va can easily wipe out entire teams in seconds. Others like Symmetra are high cost, low reward characters. When getting steamrolled, teams can’t wait for Symmetra’s portal to charge up. And since players tend to value K/D over win/loss, deadlier characters will be favored over supportive ones.

Lastly, map design is uninspired. Like Advanced Warfare, it’s hard to distinguish what can and can’t be accessed. Poor map design makes Pharah’s jetpack or Widowmaker’s grappling hook damn frustrating to use at times. Spaces are tight, so players are generally piled on top of each other in a claustrophobic nightmare.

The lack of content is mind-blowing. It’s shameful. Blizzard is clearly capitalizing on its name and marketing to bury the fact Overwatch is a half-baked product. The numerous missteps in game design, server set up, and matchmaking are enough to make me wanna quit. Anyone who gives this game a high score is foolish. I know people are enjoying it, but that doesn’t make Overwatch a great product. This trend of pushing half-finished games out the door has to stop. Now that Blizzard has done it to high critical acclaim, every developer who has hesitated will jump on the bandwagon. COD Infinite Warfare isn’t looking so bad now.

 

You sound salty and you're cherry picking points and distorting them to suit your own opinion on a game you evidently couldn't get the hang of.

 

1. Halo 5 and Titanfall are nowhere near as well designed as this game, and this game gets the fundamentals right in a very satisfying way, the effort put into balance and class variety is top notch, every character has their strengths and weaknesses, and so on. Halo and Titanfall didn't get this much attention post-marketing hype simply because gamers lost interest in the game itself - Overwatch is still going strong 4 months later.

2. The matchmaking isn't perfect, no, but in quick play you can't see if either team is premade, but in competitive where I've played almost 100 matches, I have never played a game where pre-made groups were against randoms - if there was a group of three and three in one team then it would be the same on the other. Anyway, I don't see why anyone would buy a game which they know is a team-based shooter and expect to do well *most* of the time if they were playing solo with no means to communicate.

3. Hero selection on competitive is currently limited to one character per player.

4. Of course there are going to be lopsided matches - if a team's play goes well then obviously they can grab the objective, if a team isn't coordinating then obviously they are going to be punished. This is a *team* game. That's just common sense for anything involving real people against real people.

5. Your comment on a random lobby winning too many matches and being split up is misleading - of course if another team is losing time and again then obviously in the interests of fairness and better competition it makes sense to randomise the teams if they aren't pre-made, and pretty much every other MP game with a lobby system does this as well.

6. Mei's Ice wall is not invulnerable, and while your team was obviously getting trolled that isn't an impossible situation to get out of nor is Mei impossible to kill. That just sounds like more salt because of a bad experience you had. Your team wasn't 'locked' in spawn, you just couldn't figure out how to deal with it.

7. The characters you listed aren't OP, and all can be countered if you know their weaknesses - Tracer can be countered by Torbjorn/Reaper/Roadhog, D.Va can be countered by Mei/Reaper/Junkrat, Bastion can be instantly killed by a Genji's deflect/Tracer/Snipers/Soldier 76's Rocket + Burst combo and Soldier 76... I'm not sure why you think he's overpowered at all.

8. The game plays nothing like COD and plays more like a very polished and very 'blizzard' Team Fortress 2. It's a team based shooter with no TDM or anything like that - it's purely objective based -  and not everyone is firing bullets at the enemy nonstop, there is a lot more variation and strategy then ADS and shoot like COD. The pacing is indeed fast, but if you think the game isn't tactical then you are frankly talking nonsense - hero swapping, ults, team builds, different approaches, different hero combinations means a game can turn on its head in seconds - and very often does. There is *always* a way to counter a team you think is unbeatable and that is what makes this game so rewarding and addictive. You have to think and consider your approach.

9. Maybe when players start playing the game they might go run n' gun and lone wolf but it doesn't take 2 brain cells to realise that will never win you a game. I have played many games with friends and with randoms and generally speaking people operate in a group - ANY character/class who tries to go solo will quickly get downed by the other team.

10. You aren't even given a K/D ratio in this game, and ANY damage given to an enemy will count as a kill (or 'elimination' as it is called in this game) once they die, I have gotten Gold for eliminations as Lucio a countless number of times (a support character), and only TEAM stats are given at the end of the match at the results/voting screen, with attention paid to who contributed most proportionately in their role (i.e. the game can favour a Reinhardt that has gotten a very objective time rather than a reaper for example who got a load of eliminations). You have to really go out of your way to see a player's stats, and whether any of what you see matters is purely up to you.

11. Map design is uninspired? In terms of aesthetics the locales are greatly varied, but ultimately that's your opinion. Just sounds like you want to hate it though.

12. It's hard to distinguish what can and can't be accessed? I have never heard that said about this game, and that's probably just you. There are even red/blue lines on the floor in the maps to help you find your way to the objective, and hallways/pathways are very easy to spot...

13. I think you are missing the point with Pharah and Widowmaker not always having the best mobility around the map - and that's balance. Pharah's aerial superiority means she has an advantage over other characters, so of course *common sense* would dictate that where she can go from choke point to choke point has its advantages and disadvantages - would it be fair if Pharah always had a complete view of an objective from every perspective? No, that would give her too much of advantage, so it makes sense that the map design would mean they would have to move from point to point to try and take or defend an objective, the same goes for Widowmaker. Blind spots and low ceilings/columns are there for a very clear and obvious reason.

 

Is there a lack of content? That really depends on what the consumer wanted in the first place. If you aren't playing with friends and have low skill in FPS games then you are probably going to hit a wall with this, and find the dozen or so maps frustrating because there's little reason to want to play the same thing over and over if you weren't enjoying it in the first place. Counter strike players can play the dust map and only the dust map for thousands of hours because they find the experience so well designed and tight that the experience they can have in that playing environment is tactical and nuanced enough to never grow stale.

 

IMO I am a bit on the fence about the pricing - this game could of sold for half the price as a standalone PC game, Blizzard obviously wanted to milk their new franchise as much as possible, and the loot box system - when you really get down to it - is very suspect and shady, especially with the new summer games update, but that's another story. The game itself is an excellent product, and you have shown a lot of your ignorance of it in your critique, you obviously had a bad time because you weren't very good at it.

 

Long story short:

If you are playing on your own - You might have a salty experience like this guy

If friends are playing with you - 100% go for it

[RTLF]

Great points well made SkyMason. I've played Overwatch for around 100hrs up til now (half the time with friends I made online and the other half on my own) and am loving it... nothing feels stale at all yet and am still enjoying learning some of the characters (I'm also probably the only person in the game who has yet to play as Genji haha.... I will in time)... I also find the maps have a lot of great design and variety in regard to the characters and their strengths/weaknesses etc. I also feel you're spot on in regard to how tactical this game can be and how changing tactics and/or character can completely turn the match around.

 

I am quite surprised however at how few people seem to realise that all DLC (characters/maps/modes etc.) that has and will be released are all free and always will be, you just pay for the game initially and then that's it.... no season passes no paid DLC, all free... with that in mind it is definitely good value for money for such a fun game. The net code is also excellent as I've hardly ever noticed even the slightest lag (and my internet is pretty lame) and the game runs at a smooth 60fps at all times

[ClearVHS]

Yeah i purchased it and hour ago. Can't Wait to play

[DivineFoxy]

I am a terrible FPS player, but I am not a terrible person who's bashing others for how they play a video game. Oh, and just because some people are unskilled it doesn't make them 'retards' as you're implying.

In a more philosophical sense of thinking, I believe you could find other ways of fueling your ego's voice, or covering that hollow need for self-appreciation, or whatever emotional reasons you have for acting like a complete jerk on a games' forum. Needless to say you missed the essence of my post... and I even used bold! *sigh*

i never said anything about my own skill. and my "retard" part only apply's to those who feel like it speaks to them. im not talking about the casual unskilled players. im talking about the retards.    so it has nothing to do with me being ego or with me insulting others. as neither is true. its just litterly  some people ARE retards.  and about you. it just plainly annoys me you call a list "luckbased" just because YOU can't do it without luck.     

also im not acting like a jerk on these forums as pretty much all i do daily is HELP people on these forums :\   its just that you where plainly wrong

also 100% agreeing with skymason his comment is very wel written ^^

[ClearVHS]

I bought Overwatch and Love it but when 1st time i switched it on i got a option to redeem digital goods what is that ? is that the dlc thats for the other Blizzard games or something else ?

[SaintChris777]

i never said anything about my own skill. and my "retard" part only apply's to those who feel like it speaks to them. im not talking about the casual unskilled players. im talking about the retards.    so it has nothing to do with me being ego or with me insulting others. as neither is true. its just litterly  some people ARE retards.  and about you. it just plainly annoys me you call a list "luckbased" just because YOU can't do it without luck.     

also im not acting like a jerk on these forums as pretty much all i do daily is HELP people on these forums :\   its just that you where plainly wrong

also 100% agreeing with skymason his comment is very wel written ^^

To be fair the list IS luck based. I got the plat and boostet about 3 to 4 trophies and got everything else legit, but getting 4 people with a Hanzo Ult now is pretty hard, because nearly every player knows what Ultimate does what and how to evade it. Yeah I know a Zarya can always help, but I mean the Ultimate alone. Same goes for D.VA a quad can be extremely hard, because the game tells you: "Dude, WATCH OUT YOU'RE GOING TO DIE!!"

Sure a well balanced and good team can corner enemies pretty good and you can certainly force a trophy situation, but it doesn't work with every team.

Long story short, it is kinda luck based to a certain degree.

 

I played the game for about 100 hours now and I have to admit it was worth it. At first I didn't want to buy it because I thought:" No I will play it for about 10 hours and that's it" but I got hooked. Got the plat with about 80 hours playtime and I'm still playing it.

[exsentry]

Long story short:

If you are playing on your own - You might have a salty experience like this guy

If friends are playing with you - 100% go for it

 

Actually, I play alone a LOT and have a ton of fun. Yes, I get stuck with a few bad teams from time to time, but that happens with a lot of games...then I switch to a character I need to work on.

 

I'm over 40 and have played thousands of games of my career as gamer, and this the definition of great game: easy to learn, fun to master and play with amazing attention detail backed by a string dev team. My GOTY...go buy it.

[DivineFoxy]

To be fair the list IS luck based. I got the plat and boostet about 3 to 4 trophies and got everything else legit, but getting 4 people with a Hanzo Ult now is pretty hard, because nearly every player knows what Ultimate does what and how to evade it. Yeah I know a Zarya can always help, but I mean the Ultimate alone. Same goes for D.VA a quad can be extremely hard, because the game tells you: "Dude, WATCH OUT YOU'RE GOING TO DIE!!"

Sure a well balanced and good team can corner enemies pretty good and you can certainly force a trophy situation, but it doesn't work with every team.

Long story short, it is kinda luck based to a certain degree.

 

I played the game for about 100 hours now and I have to admit it was worth it. At first I didn't want to buy it because I thought:" No I will play it for about 10 hours and that's it" but I got hooked. Got the plat with about 80 hours playtime and I'm still playing it.

that part from hanzo is not rly luck based hun  on hanamura on attack while attacking point B if ur team go's on the point the enemy wil group on it to. just shoot it into the wall from outside. thats how i killed all 6 with one ult 4 times  its not rly that hard .  

HOWEVER outside of planning things and or backstabbing enemy's   if ur playing solo without friends the matchmaking is indeed 100% luck based,  ur 100% right on that so i gues there is indeed luck involved

that part from hanzo is not rly luck based hun  on hanamura on attack while attacking point B if ur team go's on the point the enemy wil group on it to. just shoot it into the wall from outside. thats how i killed all 6 with one ult 4 times  its not rly that hard

 

To be fair the list IS luck based. I got the plat and boostet about 3 to 4 trophies and got everything else legit, but getting 4 people with a Hanzo Ult now is pretty hard, because nearly every player knows what Ultimate does what and how to evade it. Yeah I know a Zarya can always help, but I mean the Ultimate alone. Same goes for D.VA a quad can be extremely hard, because the game tells you: "Dude, WATCH OUT YOU'RE GOING TO DIE!!"

Sure a well balanced and good team can corner enemies pretty good and you can certainly force a trophy situation, but it doesn't work with every team.

Long story short, it is kinda luck based to a certain degree.

 

I played the game for about 100 hours now and I have to admit it was worth it. At first I didn't want to buy it because I thought:" No I will play it for about 10 hours and that's it" but I got hooked. Got the plat with about 80 hours playtime and I'm still playing it.

  

PS.  thanks for ur input  value ur opinion

Edited August 16, 2016 by DivineFoxy

[TehPsychedelic]

I think it's worth the money, specially now that you can get it used cheaper.

However I feel like they could have created more maps.

I feel character wise it's great and there is something for each taste, even for the CoD kids with the most original character of them all "Soldier" (they couldn't even find a cool name for it).

Looting system sucks though and is basically GTAV's Shark Cards for whoever wants to get an item for their fav character and not that same item for a character you don't give a fuck about.

 

At $40-45 I think it's completely fine. $60 was well, for people like me who wanted to jump right into it. At the end of the year you will probably find it used for $35 or $30.

 

And whoever said D.VA's ult is ridiculously OP... lulwat? D.Va is my main and I got the ult trophy (1st trophy on OW) 1 or 2 days after release, then after that I was only able to kill 4 again (actually it was 5) ONCE. D.Va is completely underpowered, the only thing we got was that you don't die now if you stay in the vicinity of the exploding Meka.

Hanzo's ult was easy the first week then after that is pretty easy to spot and hide from, same with Junkrat, Parah and most of the characters and that's when it gets underwhelming if you're going for the ult trophies legit.

Reaper's ult is the most telegraphed of all ults since you always see the same pattern, a Reaper camping somewhere that just teleported into the middle of the action. I can spot an Reaper ult 9 out of 10 times, problem is, Reaper is OP because once he starts you can only scream "I knew it".

In short the trophy list is bullshit and if you're gonna buy it for the trophy list, then IMHO it's NOT worth it. Since there is a lot of pain coming your way.

PS: I'm an average/below average FPS player, used to be pretty good on PC years ago but I'm finding my way on a controller still.

[DivineFoxy]

I think it's worth the money, specially now that you can get it used cheaper.

However I feel like they could have created more maps.

I feel character wise it's great and there is something for each taste, even for the CoD kids with the most original character of them all "Soldier" (they couldn't even find a cool name for it).

Looting system sucks though and is basically GTAV's Shark Cards for whoever wants to get an item for their fav character and not that same item for a character you don't give a fuck about.

 

At $40-45 I think it's completely fine. $60 was well, for people like me who wanted to jump right into it. At the end of the year you will probably find it used for $35 or $30.

 

And whoever said D.VA's ult is ridiculously OP... lulwat? D.Va is my main and I got the ult trophy (1st trophy on OW) 1 or 2 days after release, then after that I was only able to kill 4 again (actually it was 5) ONCE. D.Va is completely underpowered, the only thing we got was that you don't die now if you stay in the vicinity of the exploding Meka.

Hanzo's ult was easy the first week then after that is pretty easy to spot and hide from, same with Junkrat, Parah and most of the characters and that's when it gets underwhelming if you're going for the ult trophies legit.

Reaper's ult is the most telegraphed of all ults since you always see the same pattern, a Reaper camping somewhere that just teleported into the middle of the action. I can spot an Reaper ult 9 out of 10 times, problem is, Reaper is OP because once he starts you can only scream "I knew it".

In short the trophy list is bullshit and if you're gonna buy it for the trophy list, then IMHO it's NOT worth it. Since there is a lot of pain coming your way.

PS: I'm an average/below average FPS player, used to be pretty good on PC years ago but I'm finding my way on a controller still.

they are making new maps and new chars atm  and it wil all be "free dlc's" 

[TehPsychedelic]

That's what sort of keeps me from selling it, at some point I know I won't be playing this that much but a part of me wants to try the new "free" stuff as promised (Ana was a disappointment for me tho').

[Dycof]

Just bought it and just watch the intro trailer wich is epic  

[AffectatiousDonk]

Definitely buy it, I did and it looks great on my shelf. Put it in PS4 twice ........... Looks great on shelf

[PureLuxiix]

This game is amazing, total addiction. I play it time to time on pc, super fun. :3

[POEman553]

Not really. Even if you don't care about earning the platinum or trophy hunt, the matchmaking is terribly unbalanced and the game isn't very fun. Overcamp is a better name for this. There's never the sense that deaths are the result of player skill, just people camping the entire time.

 

Most people playing this are as dense as a doorknob and think trophy boosting equal cheating. If Blizzard cared about their player base, they would create a matchmaking filter for trophy boosters. We aren't going to touch the truly elite legit players and their leaderboard rankings.

[Guest]

Never was a fan of these sorta games. But got it for 33$ and have on both my ps4. Is a blast to play with someone regularly that you know. Fir that price i feel its worth it. But any more, theres way better choices this holiday.

Edited November 29, 2016 by ERGOPROXY-DECAY

[Tao-Sianu]

I would say it depends on how you feel about 100% multiplayer games to whether it's worth the money.

I usually prefer single player games to multiplayer, but I must have put somewhere between 200-300 hours in since the beta.
 

I bought this at launch and for me it's the biggest disappointment of this gaming generation. Not only the game is dull, boring, unbalanced and poorly designed, but the trophy list is terrible. It's the only game in like 80 games I gave up to platinum. Every trophy requires absurd luck and almost zero skill. (like revive 4 allies with a single use of a support's ultimate, that means all 4 of them need to die in the same spot)

 

You can also see there's a huge difference between user ratings and critics' on Metacritic, which makes me think Blizzard paid the editors for a favorable reception. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/overwatch

Gotta love how you chose to link the Xbox One version specifically for your own confirmation bias seeing as it's the one with the biggest difference between critic and user scores. You would do well as a promoter of religion with that attitude, they cherry pick their sources to further their own agenda too.

It also didn't take long for me to find the main complaints were price for content in the console version (which was pretty shitty) as well as salty Team Fortress 2 fans rather than genuine complaints.

The trophy list is also as much about luck as any competitive online game should be. It requires some degree of luck for other players to be where you need them to be, but you're still not going to get a majority of them if you're bad at the game.

[Liv3urway]

Got this game for Christmas and it's the only game I've been playing for the past week and a half. Despite preferrably playing solo, I've enjoyed my (currently) 20 hours with the team-oriented game.

 

Pros:

1) The characters are balanced because you can only pick one character per game, not one character feels OP than the others and every character (except Mercy) has a character they're strong and weak against.

2) The maps are balanced in that there are multiple ways to access each point, each map has sections that are wide and spacious or tight and close quarters oriented and each map provides multiple angles for each character to tackle their opponents.

3) Future additions made for the game will be free. At the time of this post, Blizzard just released a new map called Oasis.

4) Blizzard allows you to customize each character to your own liking and Blizzard allows you to use the coins gained from lootboxes to purchase any specific customization.

 

Cons:

1) The game modes are limited though with only 3 types: Capture The Point, Payload and the 3 match mode.

2) The "always-online” feature is disappointing too as even the most minute feature requires you to be always connected to the internet. For example, if you want to play with bots, the game will try to connect you with battle.net; something that shouldn't be required to play with AI.

3) Another disappointing factor is the fact that to fully understand the lore behind Overwatch, you have to read and/or watch a bunch of trailers, comics, some wikis and maybe some youtube videos.

4) If you're a trophy hunter, this trophy list will be a pain in the ass as many trophies are luck based.

5) The lootbox feature is a pain if you're a trophy hunter because there is a trophy that requires you to get 50 customizations for one character and the only way to get lootboxes is via leveling up and the items you get from lootboxes are randomized.