Daniel_Shadow170 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) http://kotaku.com/destiny-is-now-selling-level-boosters-and-they-sure-co-1748105644 To lazy to grind 25 level's that take about 3 hour's? Bungie will hook you up for ONLY $30 lmao glad i dropped it no more playing destiny. Now i know some will say but this isn't pay to win however in my definition and judging by the communtiy's it is. Edited December 15, 2015 by ShadowStrike002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's not pay to win, IMO, given that it's not boosting you to the max level or giving you the gear you'd need to reach max light levels. But I think it does send out the wrong message. "How'd you like to skip our game for more $$$?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrcouey Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I don't really understand the reaction with this. You already get a spark of light (auto-jump to level 25) with the purchase of TTK to begin with. This just allows you to do it again for another character. This doesn't get you to the level cap of 40, nor does it get you to the second stage of leveling with light. Even with this, you're probably a dozen hours of gameplay away from endgame content. What's the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IrishNexus Posted December 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2015 As a Destiny player since alpha, I have no problem with this. Level boosts like these are a standard for MMOs, and this will help new players quickly jump in to play with their higher level friends. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Shadow170 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 I don't really understand the reaction with this. You already get a spark of light (auto-jump to level 25) with the purchase of TTK to begin with. This just allows you to do it again for another character. This doesn't get you to the level cap of 40, nor does it get you to the second stage of leveling with light. Even with this, you're probably a dozen hours of gameplay away from endgame content. What's the issue? http://www.destructoid.com/bungie-introduces-level-boosts-for-destiny-after-it-said-it-wouldn-t-326888.phtml that is the problem i called it first silver then racing now this i'd bet $1,000 to anyone light level and guns are next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aranea Highwind Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Purchasing this item will only reduce your play time and you don't gain much of an advantage since the current level cap is level 40, not to mention the light level play a big factor now. I don't have much a problem with this since there's literally no advantage on purchasing this expensive item that only reduces your play time in the game. And yes this pretty common on MMO's. I suppose Destiny is the first MMO for most people, judging by the various threads at Bungie forum. Edited December 15, 2015 by Paige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAFoxAnymore Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's certainly not pay to win because you can do it for free. It's a stupid price that I hope nobody falls for, but if you don't like it then don't buy it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEMON Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) All "MMO" games do that as they progress. WoW allows you to buy your way up to Lv. 100: https://eu.battle.net/shop/en/product/world-of-warcraft-service-level-100-character-boost Also this is certainly not pay to win.. it's pay to lose more as people who do this haven't learned their class like they would have if leveling (I see it happen in FFXIV all the time even though purchasing your levels isn't an option yet, FATE grinding is the next worst thing a player can do as it does not learn them their class like a dungeon would so they are then clueless how the class works at 50/60 and do crap DPS). Edited December 15, 2015 by DEMON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Extremely misleading title. Have you ever tried to play an online game late and without knowing anyone. People don't want to play with anyone who's not the right level or has the right gear. At least this gives people a fighting chance to get into the game late without having to invest insane amounts of time. If there was literally boosts in MP you could buy with real money to make your team stronger that kind of crap woul bother me a lot more and would fall into the pay to win camp. Though the level of greed bothers me, this isn't pay to win and isn't going to disrupt the game, wait till they announce light and weapon selling with real money and then there might be more legitimacy to your argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocVoltacon Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That so cheap move I hate Pay to win is like an cheap move to become an good player, an true player shouldnt pay for winning I hate that practise is ruin the experience for alot of game even I dont own Destiny I want the full expenrience of my game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Shadow170 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) I do think it's pay to win but it's arguable the problem is 1.The price if you are paying $30 for that you shouldn't be allowed to game 2. the if you don't like it don't buy it doesn't work anymore because you've opened a door already how many people bought silver,now how many people bought that stupid book,and how many people will buy this. It's like season passes and dlc remember how everyone said that won't be shoved in your face? Ya that got out of hand because no one said anything you have to tell people when they have stupid ass idea's or are greedy. Edited December 15, 2015 by ShadowStrike002 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffyZorugelion Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's not pay to win, but it's fucking pathetic lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The term "Pay to win" gets thrown around so much these days, and a lot of the time it really isn't. Real P2W would be being able to buy a weapon or something that is flat out better than anything else you can get. This is pay to skip and while I won't pay for it, I'm fine with it being there. Honestly If you want to know what real pay to win is then you should look towards the mobile market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrcouey Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Have you ever tried to play an online game late and without knowing anyone. People don't want to play with anyone who's not the right level or has the right gear. At least this gives people a fighting chance to get into the game late without having to invest insane amounts of time. I think this was a driving factor in the Refer-a-Friend program. It doesn't directly solve the time issue, but having some sherpa you through would ensure you are more efficient with your time and learning the right things while you're progressing through the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I do think it's pay to win but it's arguable the problem is 1.The price if you are paying $30 for that you shouldn't be allowed to game 2. the if you don't like it don't buy it doesn't work anymore because you've opened a door already how many people bought silver,now how many people bought that stupid book,and how many people will buy this. It's like season passes and dlc remember how everyone said that won't be shoved in your face? Ya that got out of hand because no one said anything you have to tell people when they have stupid ass idea's or are greedy. Paying to win is paying to win. A level 25 without special gear going into a PvP match with level 40s is going to get wrecked. If I can pay money to get to level 40 and get exclusive gear you can only get by paying money or insanely rare gear that is pay to win. Dont get me wrong I do understand why you have a problem with this, but you can't just say its pay to win to you when ultimately even the guy who pays for this is not going to have an edge that will make him win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This reminds me of all the people who used the (horribly moronic) phrase Too-Big-To-Fail incorrectly. It was intended to say that a corporation is so big, that failing would be catastrophic to the economy. People used it to describe any big corporation. I don't see this scenario as Pay to Win, which would mean once you buy this, you complete the game. I don't see the problem with Bungie doing this. It's only reasonable as they're hemorrhaging players and they're not gong to get many new players if there is a huge hurdle for them to get into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberlin_94 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 People justifying this need to think a little more WoW lets you pay for a level skip But they skip you straight to the cap, they don't get you halfway there. This is quite frankly ridiculous, £25 in UK money to not even really be halfway to the level cap Bungie fucked Destiny so badly :') One of the worst, most over-hyped games I have ever played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) People justifying this need to think a little more WoW lets you pay for a level skip But they skip you straight to the cap, they don't get you halfway there. This is quite frankly ridiculous, £25 in UK money to not even really be halfway to the level cap Bungie fucked Destiny so badly :') One of the worst, most over-hyped games I have ever played People aren't justifying it. Its a dick move by Bungie, but its not pay to win and it also is something most definitely not required. I think general consensus on paid level boosts is you're effectively skipping the game. Its a very bizarre situation, I mean its like buying a game and then paying the company to take somew of it back. On the other hand you can think of it that bungie thought their game was so bad people were paying them so they could play it less. Edited December 15, 2015 by Superbuu3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuelito Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It isn't pay to win. It would be if they'd give you unique items that you can't obtain in game and that are stronger than the vanilla ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remilia Scarlet Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Your definition of pay to win is very skewed. Pay to win games require purchase of overpriced content to advance the game or you risk wasting dozens of hours to advance. This is just a boost for players whi don't have the time to enjoy the game like they wish. Don't make things out to be what they aren't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAFoxAnymore Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This move literally doesn't change the gaming experience for you personally AT ALL. We understand you dislike this, I'd be surprised if anyone here does like it, but it doesn't break the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Shadow170 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 This move literally doesn't change the gaming experience for you personally AT ALL. We understand you dislike this, I'd be surprised if anyone here does like it, but it doesn't break the game You don't see how because you aren't thinking about it i'm honestly surprised i'm in the minority for pay to win here yet reddit,gamefaqs and even 4chan i'm in the majority thinking oh well i'll see you guys in 2 months when the big items are dlc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAFoxAnymore Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 You don't see how because you aren't thinking about it i'm honestly surprised i'm in the minority for pay to win here yet reddit,gamefaqs and even 4chan i'm in the majority thinking oh well i'll see you guys in 2 months when the big items are dlc. Nobody likes pay to win. But I guess I'll have to bold it like the condescending prick I am because you aren't thinking either. This, by definition, is NOT pay to win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Nobody likes pay to win. But I guess I'll have to bold it like the condescending prick I am because you aren't thinking either. This, by definition, is NOT pay to win Don't go around throwing logic and reason into the argument. He's already said the mob mentality other places match his, so he's convinced he must be correct. reddit,gamefaqs and even 4chan i'm in the majority thinking Well if that's the yardstick you're measuring yourself against, perhaps you should learn to expect different results from this community. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Shadow170 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Nobody likes pay to win. But I guess I'll have to bold it like the condescending prick I am because you aren't thinking either. This, by definition, is NOT pay to win http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pay-to-win you're welcome at the end of the day it is pay to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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