DrBloodmoney Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hi there. Just wondering how the site is planning to work with the Shareplay feature being introduced tomorrow? Is there any way to tell if a person got a trophy themselves or drafted in a ringer to get it for them? If a person has knowledge that a trophy was gained by someone else via shareplay will that be accepted grounds for reporting? Or will there be a 'Shared' tag on thier profile, like the 'Hidden' one? Jut wondering, as I dont fully understand how it will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevieboy Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2014 It would be just the same as if someone helped you get a trophy by coming round to your house. I don't see the problem with it myself. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftprophet Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Idk. I think it's interesting, but I don't think I'd personally use it for trophies. However, I don't think it should be considered grounds for reporting. The system is already flooded with hackers, cheaters, and the like. I think it's useless to care anymore. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Idk. I think it's interesting, but I don't think I'd personally use it for trophies. However, I don't think it should be considered grounds for reporting. The system is already flooded with hackers, cheaters, and the like. I think it's useless to care anymore. :/ You're not wrong, but all of those ARE grounds for reporting..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide_Tortuga Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Can you really report someone for using a feature Sony put in. I think you should only care about your own trophies and take pride that you would not need to use Play-Share in order to complete a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Can you really report someone for using a feature Sony put in. I think you should only care about your own trophies and take pride that you would not need to use Play-Share in order to complete a game. Thats a reasonable point. The site does put a badge of shame on profiles where people have hidden trophies tho - and that was a Sony feature. And this site is the most lenient with that - some sites ban you completely from the leaderboards for hiding trophies.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftprophet Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 And this site is the most lenient with that - some sites ban you completely from the leaderboards for hiding trophies.... lolwut? Now that's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R25CCE Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 If you SharePlay with a friend because you want to show the game off to them, they can still accidentally acquire trophies for you as they are basically playing on your account. Therefore I don't think it's fair to 'mark' someone who is just using a feature implemented by Sony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide_Tortuga Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Thats a reasonable point. The site does put a badge of shame on profiles where people have hidden trophies tho - and that was a Sony feature. And this site is the most lenient with that - some sites ban you completely from the leaderboards for hiding trophies.... I can understand how tracking hidden trophies work and stuff. But tracking people that use play share is going to hard and it may be impossible to know if some got it on their own. Aside from the people that are going to have ultra rare platinums on PS4 when they had none on PS3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Memnoch Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2014 The diehards will probably moan about this. But to be honest, the amount of trophies won with shareplay will be a lot lower than the ones who hack properly and never get caught. As said above, it's only like having someone around your place, playing the game as well, and earning a trophy. I see no reason for the site to flag that sort of thing (well unless we also put spycams onto all the psn users, and that option is limited to Xbox one) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I can understand how tracking hidden trophies work and stuff. But tracking people that use play share is going to hard and it may be impossible to know if some got it on their own. Aside from the people that are going to have ultra rare platinums on PS4 when they had none on PS3 Sorry, I should clarify, im asking if the actual trophy data shows off the fact that a trophy was earned by another user - at the Sony server side. Of course I understand that the site cannot do all that work on its own. I guess im interestes in the site's philosophical stance on the whole issue as well tho - does it result in a situation where PS3 and Vita trophies are considered more prestigious as they cannot be 'purchased' from other players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide_Tortuga Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I should clarify, im asking if the actual trophy data shows off the fact that a trophy was earned by another user - at the Sony server side. Of course I understand that the site cannot do all that work on its own. I guess im interestes in the site's philosophical stance on the whole issue as well tho - does it result in a situation where PS3 and Vita trophies are considered more prestigious as they cannot be 'purchased' from other players? I dont think Sony really care all that much about trophies. I dont beacuse cross-save platinums are mostly on PS3/PS Vita(not many but some). People could have purchased their trophies on those platforms but the numbers are low and its not well known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I dont think Sony really care all that much about trophies. I dont beacuse cross-save platinums are mostly on PS3/PS Vita(not many but some). People could have purchased their trophies on those platforms but the numbers are low and its not well known. hmmm. Thats true - the cross save thing is pervasive. And im as guilty of that as anyone. I guess what makes this different is that even with cross-saves, at some point or another the person did have to acheive the trohy requirements tho. On at least o e of the systems. But I take your point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide_Tortuga Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 hmmm. Thats true - the cross save thing is pervasive. And im as guilty of that as anyone. I guess what makes this different is that even with cross-saves, at some point or another the person did have to acheive the trohy requirements tho. On at least o e of the systems. But I take your point In the end of it you cant stop people from using features that are there to begin with. You can give them a hard time about it but really its on you on how you wann deal with it. Others will hate it and some will like it. Its just how things are going to be now thanks to Sony. I like their idea but why let people earn trophies when the feature is meant to try the game out not complete it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuTangJase- Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 lolwut? Now that's hilarious. yeah like on true trophies i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMango Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) As others say, I wouldn't consider it cheating since it's an official Sony feature - maybe a little cheap, Like cloud save double/triple/quad platinum for games like Sound Shapes - it's cheap, but it's not cheating or hacking by any means. I don't know if it could be tracked if a trophy was earned through Share Play though, I have my doubts on that one. But yeah, as others said it's like inviting a friend over to help you with a trophy. I think the only thing this website would have to crack down on is people trying to pay other people to get trophies via Share Play, or people trying to make a paid service out of it on the Gaming Sessions page, haha Edited October 28, 2014 by BlindMango 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 As others say, I wouldn't consider it cheating since it's an official Sony feature - maybe a little cheap, Like cloud save double/triple/quad platinum for games like Sound Shapes - it's cheap, but it's not cheating or hacking by any means. I don't know if it could be tracked if a trophy was earned through Share Play though, I have my doubts on that one. But yeah, as others said it's like inviting a friend over to help you with a trophy. I think the only thing this website would have to crack down on is people trying to pay other people to get trophies via Share Play, or people trying to make a paid service out of it on the Gaming Sessions page, haha lol, there are already people offering money to plat games for them before this update - what I find wierd is that most of those people offer like £20 or £50 to plat a game! Even a simple game usually takes 20-30 hours to plat. My answer is always the same - sure, but its £50 per hour. The requests usually stop there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatCauthon Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't believe that there will be any type of marker on the trophy for the site to track. The 'guest' is technically playing on your system and on your profile/account. It's not different than handing your controller over to a friend in the same room. But I guess we'll all soon find out if that's the case. I don't see a reason for shaming people for this, either. I don't understand why there is so much concern about what others do and how they acquire trophies. Just play your games and enjoy them for yourself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide_Tortuga Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It could be thing where someone brags about how good they are for having a certain platinum when all they did is play share and watch the trophies pop for them. It can also affect the Top 50 people for platinuming or completeing a game the fastest. Poor number 50 lost his spot after all the hard work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) lolwut? Now that's hilarious. I can see where they're coming from. They probably just don't want to take any chances. I still think it's silly that this site welcomes known cheaters with open arms as long as they hide the games they actually get caught in. Although if it is TrueTrophies, they don't make much of an effort to ban cheaters anyway. Edited October 28, 2014 by Shadiochao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I can see where they're coming from. They probably just don't want to take any chances. I still think it's silly that this site welcomes known cheaters with open arms as long as they hide the games they actually get caught in. Although if it is TrueTrophies, they don't make much of an effort to ban cheaters anyway. It was PSNTL that I was thinking of actually, but I think TT is the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide_Tortuga Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think the only other site i used to go on was Yourgamercard. R.I.P old friend . Never been on TT or PSNTL is that like going to the dark side or walking on the wrong side of the tracks lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftprophet Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I can see where they're coming from. They probably just don't want to take any chances. I still think it's silly that this site welcomes known cheaters with open arms as long as they hide the games they actually get caught in. Although if it is TrueTrophies, they don't make much of an effort to ban cheaters anyway. Ok. In that aspect then yes, that makes sense. But the feature was implemented by Sony so "generally" should not be frowned upon, yeah? But since it's being abused by cheat hackers I completely agree. The should suck a fat one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxleonardo97xX Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) What is the problem of having a trophy that you didn't earn yourself? (with the exception of cheating) Shareplay it's the same as invinting a friend to your house to get a trophy for you, he might be more skilled and you required his help. Are you so 'I only deserve trophies I earned' ? (again with the exception of cheating, don't even quote me if anyone talks about cheating because shareplay isn't cheating, just a friend's help). Edited October 28, 2014 by Xxleonardo97xX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbuk Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 What is the problem of having a trophy that you didn't earn yourself? (with the exception of cheating) Shareplay it's the same as invinting a friend to your house to get a trophy for you, he might be more skilled and you required his help. Are you so 'I only deserve trophies I earned' ? (again with the exception of cheating, don't even quote me if anyone talks about cheating because shareplay isn't cheating, just a friend's help). Just like inviting someone round your house to do a boss for you, Shareplay is cheating. You aren't beating the game, someone else is, so it could be compared to downloading a save file with everything unlocked, which is bannable on this site. I, for one, welcome with open arms the idea of reporting people who have illegitimate trophies via SharePlay if it can ever be tracked, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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