This console generation is somewhat disappointing

[Gommes_]

Alright, there is something that bugs me for a long time and it’s this console generation. I bought a ps4 pretty late even though I had (and still have) a huge backlog of ps3 games and I have to say that I still have more fun with the “older” games. In fact I even think that the last generation was the best of all. I know, I know blasphemy

I grew up with a Sega Master System followed by pretty much every console and for a long time I thought that the Nintendo 64 and PS1 era was the best.

You know because of FF7, MGS, Resident Evil, Tekken 3, Mario 64 … you name it.

 

But how I stated before the last generation was probably the best one ever, due to franchises which were huge hits and pleased thousands of critics and most importantly players (like me)

And if there weren’t that successful they still were able to build a dedicated fan base.

Most importantly, many games were new IPs which paved the way for big successors.

Just a little excerpt:

 

Uncharted

Bioshock

Dragon Age

Mass Effect

Assassin’s Creed

Heavy Rain

Gears Of War

Ni No Kuni

Red Dead Redemption

Batman Arkham Series

Infamous

Minecraft

CoD: Modern Warfare

Bayonetta

The Last Of Us

Borderlands

Dark Souls

etc.

 

Some games of well-known franchises which started in other generations were also highly critically acclaimed like:

 

God of War 3

Fallout 3

Skyrim

Far Cry 3

Tomb Raider Reboot

GTA 4 and 5

And so on…

 

Even EA dared to publish some experiments with Skate, Dead Space and Mirror’s Edge.

Many of these games had fresh ideas, were new and left a huge impression to many players.

 

So what stands this generation for? Mostly hyped up trash:

 

Evolve

The Order

AC Unity

No Man’s Sky

Titanfall

Destiny

Watch Dogs

Quantum Break

Star Wars Battlefront

Ryse: Son of Rome

Mafia 3

and a never-ending flood of remasters

 

Yes, I know that there are games like Overwatch, Battlefield 1, The Witcher 3 (really excited to finally play it) and some others which seem to satisfy the critics and gamers. But overall the echo of this generation seems not to be that great. People and the games culture seem to be disappointed by so many releases lately.

Just subtract the hype (which gets bigger and bigger with every game) and look what is left.

 

I know that the last generation wasn’t perfect with failed games like Resident Evil 6, Final Fantasy XIII (all three of them), Aliens Colonial Marines and so on but in the long term I have the feeling that the overall impression of the games was much better.

I am totally aware of the fact that the last generation was the longest ever existed and that this is a reason so many games were released. Naturally there are far more good ones if the general outcome is huge.

 

By the way I am not talking about indie games cause there always good ones, especially since the last years and due to kickstarter. Nintendo wasn’t mentioned either.

(On a personal note, there are far more games I loved which I did not put in the ps3 list.)

I am aware that nobody can be objective when it comes to tastes but this is not what this is all about. If you like certain games that's great but I want to focus on the general outcome and not individual preferences.

For instance I really dislike the Assassins’s Creed franchise but I just had to list it because of its impact and this goes for many other games in the ps3 and ps4 list.

 

On the other side I am excited as f**k for games like Ni No Kuni 2,Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last Guardian and already had fun with Tales From The Borderlands.

Nevertheless the 8th generation is just meh.... so far.

 

Well, what do you guys think? Do I miss something or do I not see a bigger picture? Do you share the same thoughts or are you having a totally different opinion?

[thegirlruka]

I liked the games from last generation that you've called failures (RE6 and the FFXIII trilogy) but I've disliked a lot of the games you've called big successes (including GTA 4&5, Minecraft, and Gears of War.)

 

Maybe people enjoy different things. Maybe too many people are playing genres that they normally wouldn't, simply because the games are overhyped. Maybe people should stick to the genres that they enjoy. Maybe if people did that then they wouldn't be disappointed as often. Ryan Reynolds may be the sexiest man on earth, but if you don't like men then you probably won't enjoy having sex with him. 

Edited October 27, 2016 by kuuhaku

[miki-iki]

I mostly agree with you but at the same time, I think the newer systems haven't had enough time to "cook" per se. 

[Shinobi]

I mostly agree with you but at the same time, I think the newer systems haven't had enough time to "cook" per se. 

 

I agree with this. We haven't truly pushed the boundaries for this generations consoles quite yet. I think it's too early right now to make a justifiable conclusion on how this console generation compares with the previous generation. 

[Satoshi Ookami]

Well it is.

It's a generation of remakes/remasters/ports, nothing new, nothing innovative.

[Superstarmaste1r]

That's why I always love the last generation so much better than this generation and people out there who still diss on last gen that I just figured the gaming community is fucked big time.

Edited October 27, 2016 by Superstarmaste1r

[TheYuriG]

You can't compare a 'finished' generation like PS3/X360 with a still growing generation that is PS4/XB1 imo.

[Gommes_]

I liked the games from last generation that you've called failures (RE6 and the FFXIII trilogy) but I've disliked a lot of the games you've called big succesors (including GTA 4&5, Minecraft, and Gears of War.)

 

Well this is great and I know some people who can't stand GTA 5 either.

The difference is that the general perception was outstanding for GTA and for Resident Evil 6 it was not. There are just some titles

where the majority of people has the same feeling about when it comes to good and bad games. The only thing that unites players in

this generation though, seems to be their hate for certain games and not their love. There will always be people who dislike blockbusters

but will like the "outsiders".

RDR for instance is seen as masterpiece, as much as Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy 7 and so on...

But games for the ps4?

[MMDE]

Honestly, I think the best generations were 3rd to 5th gen. Nowadays it's mostly about the indies.

Edited October 27, 2016 by MMDE

[thegirlruka]

Well this is great and I know some people who can't stand GTA 5 either.

The difference is that the general perception was outstanding for GTA and for Resident Evil 6 it was not. There are just some titles

where the majority of people has the same feeling about when it comes to good and bad games. The only thing that unites players in

this generation though, seems to be their hate for certain games and not their love. There will always be people who dislike blockbusters

but will like the "outsiders".

RDR for instance is seen as masterpiece, as much as Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy 7 and so on...

But games for the ps4?

That's the thing though. It's all subjective. A masterpiece to one could be a trainwreck to another. No one should consider a game a bad game simply because other people consider it bad. If I enjoy a game then it's a good game to me. If I dislike a game then it's a bad game to me. When you start labeling games as good or bad simply because that's what everyone else thinks it leads to disappointments in games and in generations.

Edited October 27, 2016 by kuuhaku

[Gommes_]

You can't compare a 'finished' generation like PS3/X360 with a still growing generation that is PS4/XB1 imo.

I know and I stated that in my post. Nevertheless, many of the listed games came out in the first 3 years.

So exactly the time that has passed now for the ps4

 

Demon Souls, Dark Souls, Gta 4, Dragon Age, Gears of War, Infamous, Bayonetta, Modern Warfare, Dead Space, Borderlands, Mirrors Edge, Skate and Uncharted came

all out within the first 3 years

[FinalMiracle13]

I think it's too early to tell. Just look at the video game releases of the PS3 up until Dragon Age Origins (which would be around the 3 years old period) and I think we're doing perfectly as expected, I think we're doing better on average than the last generation was at this point overall. The consensus will improve as the generation progresses.

[Gommes_]

No one should consider a game a bad game simply because other people consider it bad. If I enjoy a game then it's a good game to me. If I dislike a game then it's a bad game to me. When you start labeling games as good or bad simply because that's what everyone else thinks it leads to disappointments in games and in generations.

 

Absolutely but isn't it weird that the overall perception of this generation is so negative? As stated before I wasn't pointing out my personal preferences,

rather than the opinions of critics and players. I am not here to tell anyone what to like and what not. I am just observing how the market is

evolving and reacting to the latest games

[thegirlruka]

Absolutely but isn't it weird that the overall perception of this generation is so negative? As stated before I wasn't pointing out my personal preferences,

rather than the opinions of critics and players. I am not here to tell anyone what to like and what not. I am just observing how the market is

evolving and reacting to the latest games

Is that the overall perception of this generation though? That's a serious question. I don't look at many reviews or critic's opinions so I don't know. I'm personally content with this generation. It's on par for what it was 3 years into last generation for me personally. If anything, the handheld (vita specifically) is far superior in terms of games that I like to last gen's handheld (Nintendo DS.)

Edited October 27, 2016 by kuuhaku

[Kittens Are Awesome]

I gave you a "like" just for the effort on the op.

I have yet to get an eighth gen console so, i have no input on the subject matter, unfortunately.

[Gommes_]

Is that the overall perception of this generation though? That's a serious question. I don't look at many reviews or critic's opinions so I don't know. I'm personally content with this generation. It's on par for what it was 3 years into last generation for me personally. If anything, the handheld (vita specifically) is far superior in terms of games that I like to last gen's handheld (Nintendo DS.)

Unfortunately it is. Just as an example: http://www.gamecrate.com/opinion-why-current-console-generation-disappointment/13792

If you interested in it google it, there are tons of videos and articles. Go to metacritic, read steam and amazon reviews and you'll be amazed

 

Btw I forgot The Division in my hyped up trash list

[HaSoOoN-MHD]

I agree with this. We haven't truly pushed the boundaries for this generations consoles quite yet. I think it's too early right now to make a justifiable conclusion on how this console generation compares with the previous generation. 

This is not really true. This gen of consoles don't have some super secret button hidden somewhere that'll suddenly open the flood gates of technological advancement and innovation; they're shitty PCs. What you see is what you get; there is a reason we're getting mid gen upgrades because the XBone and PS4 released criminally underpowered. 

 

But to address the OP this gen seems fine so far. Comparing it to a finished, extraordinarily long generation at this point just isn't very fair. It's got its fair share of good, great and amazing games. Bloodborne, Witcher 3, Shadow of Mordor, Deus Ex, Metal Gear Solid V all come to mind with more to come.

[thegirlruka]

Unfortunately it is. Just as an example: http://www.gamecrate.com/opinion-why-current-console-generation-disappointment/13792

If you interested in it google it, there are tons of videos and articles. Go to metacritic, read steam and amazon reviews and you'll be amazed

 

Btw I forgot The Division in my hyped up trash list

I googled it and found this http://kotaku.com/5369850/where-are-all-the-next-gen-games

 

It's about the last generation and was written about the same amount of time into the 7th gen that we're into the 8th gen. It makes claims that the current gen (7th gen) games just aren't at the scale of the last generation of gaming (6th gen.) It seems like critics like their member berries and will eventually think of this generation with the same fondness as the last once we're in in the next generation.

[Remilia Scarlet]

If you're disappointed then don't play the games. Stick with what you know you like.

[Gommes_]

If you're disappointed then don't play the games. Stick with what you know you like.

How am I supposed to know what I will like? And I don't just want to play the 20th part of one franchise. Gaming for me is about getting to know many different genres and titles.

The same for movies. One can like Mission Impossible, Paper Man and everything inbetween. But to figure that out you have to watch all kinds of movies or to stay on topic

play all kinds of games.

[xZoneHunter]

This is not really true. This gen of consoles don't have some super secret button hidden somewhere that'll suddenly open the flood gates of technological advancement and innovation; they're shitty PCs. What you see is what you get; there is a reason we're getting mid gen upgrades because the XBone and PS4 released criminally underpowered. 

 

Then explain to me why there is such a big difference between Uncharted 1 & The Last of Us. Developers get more skilled at optimizing their games for that platform the more they use it, it's also part of the reason why some developers choose to outsource their ports.

 

You're partly right though. I suppose the PS4 & X1 upgrades are more necessary to follow with the recent trends 4k, HDR & VR rather than having better graphics at 1080p.

[HaSoOoN-MHD]

Then explain to me why there is such a big difference between Uncharted 1 & The Last of Us. Developers get more skilled at optimizing their games for that platform the more they use it, it's also part of the reason why some developers choose to outsource their ports.

 

You're partly right though. I suppose the PS4 & X1 upgrades are more necessary to follow with the recent trends 4k, HDR & VR rather than having better graphics at 1080p.

 

This gen of consoles

 

 

This gen

 

 

THIS gen. Did not mention last gen.

[Super-Fly Spider-Guy]

There's a lot disappointing about this gen, and there's a lot of really cool shit too, same as it is with most things in life.

[xZoneHunter]

 

THIS gen. Did not mention last gen.

 

So you believe that PS4 games released in 2013 will be exactly the same graphical & performance wise than games released at the end of the generation? Okay.

Edited October 27, 2016 by xZoneHunter

[ProfBambam55]

i agree that creativity seems to be lacking a bit as companies can often just take templates from last gen knowing they will sell just based on previous successes and by overhyping their release...i think the novelty will eventually wear off and perhaps a new generation of games will come, perhaps not...supply and demand is kind of how it works i think...i found movies and music to be the same for the longest time...we'll have to be patient and see what's up for the future as every generation has eventually given birth to what i would deem as classics...

Edited October 27, 2016 by ProfBambam55