The end of trophy hunting #saveyourinternet

[Aecesaje_]

As you may know, the UE parlament will be voting for the Article 13 at the beggining of 2019, this may put a end to anything with copyright content.

 

-What is Article 13?

Article 13 has a single objective, protect copyright content. That means that if you post a photo or video with anything you don't own it will be taken down before it is even uploaded.

 

-What are the consequences of Article 13?

You won't be able to see or post anything with copyright content, this includes videos, photos, memes, etc.

Also the only people able to post on YouTube will be the big companies like Universal, Sony, Marvel, etc, basically YouTube will turn out to be a huge pile of ads.

This site might get close since it uses copyright content (Yes, trophy images and banners also count has copyright)

 

-How will this affect trophy hunting?

Glad you ask, do you know those collectable guides you watch on YouTube, those damn collectables that don't show up on your map or that are missable, well prepare yourself because if this article passes you won't be able to watch them since they have copyright content (basically you're watching a video of a game that wasn't posted by the developer and that's a big no no to UE).

You won't be able to find many people to boost with because you can't really play with an American or Asian person because they might share the copyright content with you.

 

-I'm American why should I care?

If the article passes it might be applied to other countries mainly because it beneficts the big companies and you know very well how they like money

 

-How can I help to stop Article 13?

We have 2 options: You can send an email to the MPE's of your country here https://saveyourinternet.eu explain to them why this article is bad and try to earn their attention, show your points of view and use the opinion of celebrities or companies to convincen them (use the words of YouTube CEO and Mark Zuckerberg as they are against this article). You can always vote here https://www.change.org/p/european-parliament-stop-the-censorship-machinery-save-the-internet we already have more than 3 million signatures and we can get many more.

 

Thanks for reading, I hope I was able to spread the message to everyone. If you can Please spread the message too, together we can make the Internet a free place to share opinions and content.

 

Edit: I don't know if I put this on the right topic, feel free to change it to the right one if it is on the wrong one

 

Edited November 29, 2018 by maiathewinners

[Terra]

We are moving into a dark time...Very frightening 

[Lance_87]

We're in danger! We're in danger!

 

And guess what? Nothing happens and nothing will change, as usual. These laws and votes are always a bluff.

Edited November 29, 2018 by Lance_87

[KingGuy420]

I don't know much about this, but is this like a "this could, possibly, maybe happen under the new laws, but it's not exactly why they're doing it, so let's exaggerate and assume the worst" type thing? Or is this a "this is 100% exactly what they're going for" type thing?

 

Like remember when net neutrality was a thing and everyone was like "oh ISP's are going to sell websites like TV stations and throttle competitors websites, WE'RE ALL FUCKED!!!!". Then congress said that wasn't true at all and no one believed them... And then it didn't happen.

 

I don't know, sounds like the same over exaggerating "the sky is falling" type crap that the internet loves to get fired up about.

[Lance_87]

24 minutes ago, KingGuy420 said:

I don't know much about this, but is this like a "this could, possibly, maybe happen under the new laws, but it's not exactly why they're doing it, so let's exaggerate and assume the worst" type thing? Or is this a "this is 100% exactly what they're going for" type thing?

 

Like remember when net neutrality was a thing and everyone was like "oh ISP's are going to sell websites like TV stations and throttle competitors websites, WE'RE ALL FUCKED!!!!". Then congress said that wasn't true at all and no one believed them... And then it didn't happen.

 

I don't know, sounds like the same over exaggerating "the sky is falling" type crap that the internet loves to get fired up about.

 

This. And don't forget about other crap like SOPA, it was supposed to kill piracy forever and ever, it didn't happen and it was reworked or abandoned.

 

Or the recent drama surrounding foreign versions of Wikipedia going on strike for some other copyright-related bluff.

Edited November 29, 2018 by Lance_87

[ShadowStar83x]

25 minutes ago, KingGuy420 said:

I don't know much about this, but is this like a "this could, possibly, maybe happen under the new laws, but it's not exactly why they're doing it, so let's exaggerate and assume the worst" type thing? Or is this a "this is 100% exactly what they're going for" type thing?

 

Like remember when net neutrality was a thing and everyone was like "oh ISP's are going to sell websites like TV stations and throttle competitors websites, WE'RE ALL FUCKED!!!!". Then congress said that wasn't true at all and no one believed them... And then it didn't happen.

 

I don't know, sounds like the same over exaggerating "the sky is falling" type crap that the internet loves to get fired up about.

 

37 minutes ago, Lance_87 said:

We're in danger! We're in danger!

 

And guess what? Nothing happens and nothing will change, as usual. These laws and votes are always a bluff.

I hope you two are right. Hoping for the best. 

[KingGuy420]

11 minutes ago, Waddle Dee said:

 

I hope you two are right. Hoping for the best. 

 

I have no idea if I'm right or wrong. Like I said, I know nothing about this. I would normally research it a bit and form an opinion but this is very much a "boy who cried wolf" type of situation. It's hard to care when things like this have been wrong soooo many times.

Edited November 29, 2018 by KingGuy420

[ShadowStar83x]

12 minutes ago, KingGuy420 said:

 

I have no idea if I'm right or wrong. Like I said, I know nothing about this. I would normally research it a bit and form an opinion but this is very much a "boy who cried wolf" type of situation. It's hard to care when things like this have been wrong soooo many times.

Well, regardless, hopefully that's all it is.  

[Aecesaje_]

@KingGuy420

The problem is that this isn't the first time they voted for this, it's actually the third.

 

First time the article was denied, second time it passed to be voted on parlament and now is when they choose if they apply it or not.

 

The reason why I'm sharing this is that as I said any copyright content will be blocked for public use. At first I didn't care because of the same reasons you said, has I thought "So I can't do X because Y told me but who will tell Y I did X? They have no way of controlling what I'm doing" but then YouTube CEO appears and says that if the article passes they would have to delete every vídeo with copyright content because of it, I thought again "Wow they are really taking this way to serious" and then Mark Zuckerberg talks and then UE says that they would have a bot controlling what is good or not and that he would stop your post before it goes public if it contains any type of copyright content, the problem is that the bot won't probably be that good and will block any type of things. At this moment I was getting nervous, I use YouTube and many other websites for a good amount of things: study, pass the time, etc. Yes I can live without it but this just seems wrong in many ways.

 

If they want to create a law like this they have to do it well, they can't just come with an idea "You know what would be cool? Restrict access to websites with copyright content. People WILL LOVE IT!".

[Asvinia]

I suspect it won't get passed because of the link tax. Corporations like Google aren't going to want to pay money just for linking to other sites. Though the reason for this bill is control, it makes it extremely easy to take down anything unseemly. If it gets passed a switch won't flip and the internet won't die, which will give the smug guys something to be smug about and parrot 'told you so', but it'll make it incredibly easy for large companies to strike absolutely everything with even a hint of 'their' content in it.

If it doesn't get passed, they'll just try again until it does pass. They're not doing it for 'the people' they're doing it because it gives them more control. The only thing I can really advise is to download everything you watch regularly, any guides or such that you might need in the near future and look for a good VPN. Oh, and if you're going to create videos, upload them somewhere like peertube.

Edited November 29, 2018 by Asvinia

[RadiantFlamberge]

Hopefully the EU Copyright Directive ends up taking a fast train to nowhere like SOPA & PIPA did.

Should this Article 13 pass, I have heard that YouTube will likely block people in the EU from uploading or viewing.

 

If this EUCD gets rejected again, I wish they would just give up on it.

[Dauersack]

Even if (and that is a very big if) the law ends up taking down that kind of content on mainstream sites like youtube, how is that supposed to really affect trophy hunters? There are other ways to get information on collectibles or walkthroughs than a youtube video, but that is not even needed here. You have to remind yourself that there are laws against many things, but they always end up being useless against the internet. If governments can't stop things like weapon trade, drug trade, illegal pornography and videos of people getting beheaded from flooding the internet, what makes you think they could have anymore success with fully banning copyright content?

[Kittet3]

The "you won't be able to play with other people to boost" part seems to be a bit of a stretch.

 

Doesn't copyright have a limited time period in which it's active for? And aren't there accepted uses for copyrighted work in the UK? In the US, parody work (which I assume memes would fall under) are a copyright exception. From what I also understand from Youtube is that you are not supposed to get money from video game videos unless you voiceover them, otherwise you are in violation of copyright. Would that be allowed under this article? 

 

Also, obligatory point out of how clickbaity the title is. "UK vote on copyright law may affect video games" would have been more informative. 

[eigen-space]

33 minutes ago, Kittet3 said:

Doesn't copyright have a limited time period in which it's active for?

 

Yes, but it is quite a long time actually and varies depending on the country and the type of work. In the US, the typical copyright is until the creator dies plus 70 years. Most other countries also have the stipulation of lifetime plus x years, and usually that amount is for multiple decades.