HaslanTheGreat Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have a confession to make... I've only completed one Metal Gear game to date. I love this series so much but I've only completed Metal Gear Rising Revengeance (about 3 times) and I've played 2,3 and 4. I'm starting new games on all of them to really take in the series but what order are they best played in because release order seems jumbled to me and game chronology sounds like a much better idea but I've been told not to. Any help would be appreciated as I need to start on what is possibly one of the greatest series ever. Also what did you guys think of Rising Revengeance? I really liked it and I've got to say I completed the majority of the game using pure stealth (discluding sections where you had to go full on Ninja Gaiden on everyone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Just watch them on youtube. The games are 90% bad cut scene and 10% bad game, so watching them on youtube will at least cut out the 10% game part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gwinambele Posted February 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2014 Just watch them on youtube. The games are 90% bad cut scene and 10% bad game, so watching them on youtube will at least cut out the 10% game part. Leave and shut the door behind you infidel...Plot order is: Mgs 3 Mgs Peace Walker Mgs V (To be released ofc) Mgs Mgs2 Mgs4 I skipped 2 Metal Gears from snes (they are incluswd in HD collection) couse i never accually played them But they are after Mgs V afaik I wouls suggest to Damn edit on smartphone It doest rly matter of you play them on release or plot order I will suggest to play as release orded though Every game add aomething to gameplay so you will miss some features if you will play "backward" 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Leave and shut the door behind you infidel... Lol, love your enthusiasm! I'm not really an infidel - I just prefer games that are, you know, good.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Freaker Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Between MGS 3 en MGS Peace Walker there's the briliant MGS Portable Ops, As the name suggests, it's a portable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RHGSniperFox Posted February 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Just watch them on youtube. The games are 90% bad cut scene and 10% bad game, so watching them on youtube will at least cut out the 10% game part. Says the guy with Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls. Hypocrite much? Now - I'm not saying either of those are bad games - but for you to go and try to insult a game for having long cutscenes and "bad" gameplay, when you've played other games, to completion, that are even LESS of an actual "game" and more an interactive movie - you must have some wires crossed in your brain the wrong way. Metal Gear is a story heavy game, yes, but the gameplay - that is, you know, ACTUAL gameplay - is some of the best stealth action around. The only game I see on your list that even comes close in terms of how open it is in how you play, is Dishonored - because you don't have to kill a soul throughout the entire game ( Deus Ex: HR requires you to kill the bosses [unless it's in the Director's Cut], and Hitman requires you to kill at least your target ). I can understand that Metal Gear isn't a game for everyone - but it's far from "bad". Not liking something =/= It being bad. --- In regards to the OP, I'm gonna point you to a post I made a while back regarding something similar: https://psnprofiles.com/forums/topic/6132-metal-gear-solid-chronically-order/?view=findpost&p=107678 Also, the only PSP game you really need to worry with, is Peace Walker - Portable Ops WAS canon until then - PW ended up retconning a lot of what happened in PO. Though I'd say play PO just because. The best order to play them, would be to start with Metal Gear [The original, MSX title], available on the HD Collection. Metal Gear Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake Metal Gear Solid Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops* Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker *As mentioned above, PO has kind of been retconned by PW - so it's not exactly necessary to play it. That said, MGS4 DOES reference PO [since it came out before PW]. It's a confusing situation. Like I said, I'd recommend playing PO just because it is part of the story, and MGS4 would make a little more sense after. But you can pretty much skip it and not be hurt. It's definitely better to play them in release order, rather than chronological - you'll get to see the story unfold the way it was intended, and you'll also get to see the gameplay evolve over the course of the series. I'd recommend getting the Legacy Collection [ http://www.amazon.com/Metal-Gear-Solid-Collection-Playstation-3/dp/B00CTKHXFO ], you CANNOT beat that deal if you don't already have all of the main entries. Edited February 3, 2014 by The Legendary Wolf 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Says the guy with Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls. Hypocrite much? Now - I'm not saying either of those are bad games - but for you to go and try to insult a game for having long cutscenes and "bad" gameplay, when you've played other games, to completion, that are even LESS of an actual "game" and more an interactive movie - you must have some wires crossed in your brain the wrong way. . you forgot The Walking Dead, Back to the Future, The Wolf Among Us, Virtues Last Reward and some others - all more story than game. The critical difference is that the stories in those are good, or interesting, or compelling or funny. MGS is just endlessly ret-conning the same ultra right wing nonsense and Michael Bay level crass lunacy again and again and again, and the only way Konami keep people coming back is by having Hideo Kojima disingenuously pretend that each installment is the final one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Mary Rose Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Just watch them on youtube. The games are 90% bad cut scene and 10% bad game, so watching them on youtube will at least cut out the 10% game Don Don't make me laugh Lol, love your enthusiasm! I'm not really an infidel - I just prefer games that are, you know, good.... Oh i see.. Aabs Animals, escape the plan,lone survivor is really better 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakuranbo_333 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I only played MGR but I think it's the best of all Metal Gear games! .. umm.. well, I guess I'm the only one who thinks MGR is the best game ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Don't make me laugh Oh i see.. Aabs Animals, escape the plan,lone survivor is really better dude, go after the easy games on my list all you want - Aabs Animals etc *blush* but Lone Survivor? That was easily the best game I played last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Mary Rose Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 dude, go after the easy games on my list all you want - Aabs Animals etc *blush* but Lone Survivor? That was easily the best game I played last year! Dude? LOL Haters gonna hate ! MGS1 is one of best games ever ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Dude? LOL Haters gonna hate ! MGS1 is one of best games ever ! haha, lol, sorry, didn't notice you were a lady when I posted :-S Sorry! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Mary Rose Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) haha, lol, sorry, didn't notice you were a lady when I posted :-S Sorry! Lol it's ok ! You may dislike of a game but nobody has the right to talk nonsense! is true that MGS has enough cut scene's as uncharted and many other games but it's still a great game! if today I love games infiltration and espionage owes much to having played MGS. And moreover i appreciate the work of hideo kojima! hes a pure genius Edited February 3, 2014 by Blood-Rose666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Lol it's ok ! You may dislike of a game but nobody has the right to talk nonsense! is true that MGS has enough cut scene's as uncharted and many other games but it's still a great game! if today I love games infiltration and espionage owes much to having played MGS. And moreover i appreciate the work of hideo kojima! hes a pure genius meh, sure sure. I love games, and I dont want to deny people enjoyment or anything. I absolutely do believe that Metal Gear is a horrible franchise, but then, there are plent of games I really like that others hate - Assassins Creed series, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2 etc, so when I go after Metal Gear I know fine well that others will defend it to the death! No mean spiritedness here though - this site is pretty good that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Mary Rose Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 meh, sure sure. I love games, and I dont want to deny people enjoyment or anything. I absolutely do believe that Metal Gear is a horrible franchise, but then, there are plent of games I really like that others hate - Assassins Creed series, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2 etc, so when I go after Metal Gear I know fine well that others will defend it to the death! No mean spiritedness here though - this site is pretty good that way I know you are good person but this type of action often leads people to walk to discuss with each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Fishing Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) . Edited August 21, 2014 by Fragtaster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gotakibono Posted February 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2014 meh, sure sure. I love games, and I dont want to deny people enjoyment or anything. I absolutely do believe that Metal Gear is a horrible franchise, but then, there are plent of games I really like that others hate - Assassins Creed series, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2 etc, so when I go after Metal Gear I know fine well that others will defend it to the death! No mean spiritedness here though - this site is pretty good that way Oh don't worry, your very abrasive opinion will in no way deter me - or anyone else - from enjoying the Metal Gear series. If you'd care to elaborate on why you think the games are "90% bad cut scene and 10% bad game," that would be great; you've essentially just yelled from the rooftops that they games are bad, but have yet to actually give any explanation as to why you've drawn this conclusion. Fragtaster has given you all you need to know about the chronological order of the series. I hope that if you do get around to playing the games you enjoy them as much I have over the years: Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is still quite possibly my favourite game of all-time. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goekie Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) you forgot The Walking Dead, Back to the Future, The Wolf Among Us, Virtues Last Reward and some others - all more story than game. The critical difference is that the stories in those are good, or interesting, or compelling or funny. MGS is just endlessly ret-conning the same ultra right wing nonsense and Michael Bay level crass lunacy again and again and again, and the only way Konami keep people coming back is by having Hideo Kojima disingenuously pretend that each installment is the final one. Metal Gear, that 'horrible' franchise that has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide, who carried the Playstation 1 on its way to succes in the mid 90's, the very foundation of the stealth genre on the gaming industry. Games like Splinter Cell, Deus Ex, Hitman, Dishonored, Assassin's Creed etc. "90% cut scenes and 10% bad gameplay", good Sir I am eager to learn why you are bashing this gem of a game into the ground like it aint nuttin. Have ye no shame? Sure we can all have different opinions and that is just fine, but would you care to elaborate why this game has such a bad story, is so uninteresting and anything but funny? I can't wait to hear your constructive criticism. OP, if you loved going stealth mode in Rising you will most certainly have a good time trying to move as a shadow in the dark in the previous installments. If you happen to have a NGC, might I suggest playing the MGS1 remake on your Nintendo? I'd start off with the first game and just play the series in the release order the way it was intended to be played. Edited February 3, 2014 by Goekie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youthCAT1590 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is still quite possibly my favourite game of all-time. Ditto. That game blew my mind the first time I played it.. And to the OP: I would just play them in the order they were released. But either way is fine. Also, I tried the Revengeance demo & it wasn't my cup of tea, honestly. I personally prefer the traditional MGS style but to each his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savageamusement Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Metal gear solid is a great franchise. Everyone should at least play MGS1 and MGS3 - if those games don't convert you to a MGS fan then the series clearly isn't for you. Also Portable ops is cannon to the series. Not sure why people think otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Metal Gear, that 'horrible' franchise that has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide, who carried the Playstation 1 on its way to succes in the mid 90's, the very foundation of the stealth genre on the gaming industry. Games like Splinter Cell, Deus Ex, Hitman, Dishonored, Assassin's Creed etc. "90% cut scenes and 10% bad gameplay", good Sir I am eager to learn why you are bashing this gem of a game into the ground like it aint nuttin. Have ye no shame? Sure we can all have different opinions and that is just fine, but would you care to elaborate why this game has such a bad story, is so uninteresting and anything but funny? I can't wait to hear your constructive criticism. . *sigh* Right. As said above I'm not trying to force people who already like this franchise not to, I'm simply warning new people away from it as i think it sucks. I don't need to start a war here, but to answer the specific questions you have asked/ raised: 1. Wii Fit and Wii Sports, Modern Warfare and Many other games have sold millions too. It doesn't in and of itself make them good. 2. To say it carried the PS1 to success is spurious. MGS came out in a phenomenal year for games, and as such is, in my opinion, riding the coat-tails of all the other, better games it got lumped in with. 3. The amount of cut-scenes to gameplay is ridiculous. Even the reviewers who loved MGS4 made mention of this almost unanimously. This amount of non-interaction is fine if that is what the game is about i.e. In TWD or Heavy Rain, but in what markets itself as 'tactical espionage action' its outrageous. Hell, in MGS 1 there are full half hour sections of just looking at two headshots and chatting, so even before graphics were capable of doing big long 'action' cut-scenes they were padding the length of their games 4. I think that to get into a discussion about the story merits of a series in which one character loses an arm, has the arm of their boss grafted on and that arm TAKES OVER HIS BRAIN (all the while taking itself SUPER SERIOUSLY and moralising about the state of society and existentialism and all sorts of pseudo-serious topics) would insult both of us. 5. All of this would be fine if the gameplay could support it, but it just cant. The AI characters cant see 10 feet in front of them, their alerts can be countered with a cardboard box, the camera angles (in particular in the PS2 era games) cause constant trial and error as you sneak right into guards feet as you cant see where you are headed, the shooting and aiming is a joke etc etc etc. This was boring to write, but you push me for an explanation and there it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goekie Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 What I'm saying is you sound a little biased. A game that sells millions of copies with a Metacritic score of 94 can't be that bad. Unless you know better than the 30 million who have played it. And since when aren't stealth games supposed to have cutscenes. Does this mean only RPGs are allowed to have cutscenes? Games like Halo, Gran Turismo and Uncharted sell consoles. MGS belongs to this list as well and has proven this in the past. Nothing spurious about saying it boosts sales figures. Just because you are not a fan of the game doesn't mean it isn't a good game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 What I'm saying is you sound a little biased. A game that sells millions of copies with a Metacritic score of 94 can't be that bad. Unless you know better than the 30 million who have played it. And since when aren't stealth games supposed to have cutscenes. Does this mean only RPGs are allowed to have cutscenes? Games like Halo, Gran Turismo and Uncharted sell consoles. MGS belongs to this list as well and has proven this in the past. Nothing spurious about saying it boosts sales figures. Just because you are not a fan of the game doesn't mean it isn't a good game You are absolutely right, i am biased, cause i dont like it - i said so a few post back - but you asked me to explain why i dont like the series and, well, thats why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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