Skeptical about 7/10 review score median and price point

[ElektrickRage]

I was sort of excited for this game and was going to get it the first week it was put but it seems it’s not what I was expecting. How does this game get rated lower than Wo Long? Because it is being rated as an open world game? Is it a bandwagon reviewer thing or is the game just not good enough to be an 8 or better for a triple A game? I saw the gameplay footage for myself and can agree the combat looks sorta bland and not many attack animations as in Nioh. Is there even stances? Looks real bare bones too me. Story and characters as well seem a bit too cartoony and anime-ish but that’s team ninjas M.O. The price point is a kick in the balls though. In Australia at least! A disc version of tjis is $125 from EB games. I can’t justify that from these average review scores.

[SadisticSymphony]

From what I've played, 7-8 is a fair score.

[Thomas2400]

7 isn’t average, 5 is average 

 

From what I’ve played I’m enjoying it so far, it’s your typical open world marks on a map to check off as you travel through the world, some points are harder than others and you’ll need to come back to them at a higher level

 

Combat is tough but fair, a little bit risk vs reward with deciding whether to block/dodge or try and parry and there are difficultly options if you want to make it easier 

 

honestly I’d say watch some open world gameplay or someone streaming that’ll give you a better idea if it’s for you because you’ll see what the gameplay loop is and decide if you want to spend 20-30+ hours doing that 

[ninja-star95]

Game definitely doesn't feel like a 7 at the moment. Then again I am only like 3-4 hours in so who knows. 

Can definitely be challenging though but still feels fun and rewarding.

 

Also 7 is not "average" it's basically a good but flawed or solid game. I will never comprehend people nowadays thinking 7/10s are like 5/10s or below. So damn annoying

2 hours ago, ElektrickRage said:

cartoony and anime-ish

I will always hate it when someone says something looks "anime" or whatever. Such a stupid broad term to describe stuff smh. And no it's not really "cartoony" at all. Dunno what you're talking about

[pavelbagirov]

26 minutes ago, Thomas2400 said:

7 isn’t average, 5 is average 

 

From what I’ve played I’m enjoying it so far, it’s your typical open world marks on a map to check off as you travel through the world, some points are harder than others and you’ll need to come back to them at a higher level

 

Combat is tough but fair, a little bit risk vs reward with deciding whether to block/dodge or try and parry and there are difficultly options if you want to make it easier 

 

honestly I’d say watch some open world gameplay or someone streaming that’ll give you a better idea if it’s for you because you’ll see what the gameplay loop is and decide if you want to spend 20-30+ hours doing that 

In today standards barely any game receive 6 or less from all great critics,most of the games receive 8-10 all the time,so because of that 7-8 is become average score sadly and not 4-5/10

[Hitman_Spinksy1]

Any game that gets rated at a 5 or lower usually means it's a load of crap. Rating systems in every aspect of life isn't linear so I agree, a 7/10 is an average score. 9-10/10 is a masterpiece whilst 8/10 is a solid game. The same with films, nothing with an 5 rating on Imdb is considered an average film. You wouldn't stay at a 2.5 star hotel and think, this is an average hotel. The average is a sum of all the data and divided by the count which would be greater than 5 as most games get a higher rating than 5. 

Edited March 23 by Hitman_Spinksy1

[Realtione]

I honestly just don't like any of the Metacritic apologists anymore. OP, whenever you feel like you want to play it and can afford it just go for it. It's a cliche but a good one. There are bunch of sequels who did much of a better job than their predecessors but ended up scoring the exact same (or even lower at times). The whole arithmetic messes up above 9. Up to 9 especially between 8 and 9 you get a bunch of games within varying degrees of quality. I can personally say both GoT and Horizon have an undeniably good production quality however GoT has a better game feeling. It only scored 83 (fair score imho) before the Director's Cut however. It's still praised by almost everyone and still sits at +9 user score. Days Gone found its own cult too. I could list bunch of flaws with Rebirth but it's still acclaimed. So what? Ronin has a decent score and I have no doubt it will find its followers too. Could also find its footing better in a sequel, this is the first open world Team Ninja game so it can be forgiven. 

[ZombiJoel_Tlou3]

Yeah the rating system for games is like school. You don't even pass unless you get a 50% score which is a 2 out of 5 score

[EDGES]

review scores aren't something you can trust really, look at the Horizon games for example, Zero Down is scored higher than Forbidden West even though in all reviewes they say that Forbidden West literally does everything better than Zero Dawn, Days Gone was targeted for some reasons, and Tsushima is very underrated IMO, after seeying situations like those, review scores are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned

 

what matters is what you see and think, if you think that the game looks inferior to Nioh and it doesn't justify the price increase, then that is your answer right there on if you should buy it now or not

[ARIXANDRE]

7 hours ago, pavelbagirov said:

In today standards barely any game receive 6 or less from all great critics,most of the games receive 8-10 all the time,so because of that 7-8 is become average score sadly and not 4-5/10

This is my assessment as well. 

6 or 7/10 are the new 4-5/10. Your mileage will vary with games in these score ranges. 

[DanTheMan_94_]

I’m really enjoying this game, reminds me a lot of the open world Assassin Creed games

[Reject]

Just now, DanTheMan_94_ said:

I’m really enjoying this game, reminds me a lot of the open world Assassin Creed games

Honestly this is what I was hoping for when buying it. I'm trying to get into assassin creed games but i find the story of a guy in the future going back in time just off putting lol. So I was hoping it would give me that without that story. 

[yowzagabowza]

From the reviews I've read, it's kind of like an Assassin's Creed game with all of the map markers and busy work. But the combat is Team Ninja all the way. 

I wouldn't spend $125 on any game ever, regardless of the score! Everything gets cheaper if you wait, and that's exactly what I do.

And as a few others have said, 7 is an "average" game. A 6 might squeak in there, too. 5 or under is usually a bad game. 8,9,10 are good, great, excellent : )

[BENJAM1N_LINUS]

4-5 hours in and I'm really enjoying it in these early stages.

 

It just feels really good to play. Tons of QoL things in all aspects. Combat is good, traversal feels nice and the open world hasn't felt like a chore to navigate at all so far.

[Sicho]

6 hours ago, EDGES said:

 Days Gone was targeted for some reasons

 

tbf Days Gone simply wasn't really very good imo. I stopped playing after 6 or 10 hours. Zombies are just overdone by now, the whole biker setting was cringe af, the game was buggy and also the gas mechanic was annoying. It was probably "good enough" but with the plethora of great open-world games that all demand hundreds of hours of game time, nobody has time for "good enough" anymore.

[EDGES]

6 minutes ago, Sicho said:

the whole biker setting was cringe af

 

to you

 

7 minutes ago, Sicho said:

the game was buggy

 

true, if somehow you missed the day one patch that fixed everything

 

8 minutes ago, Sicho said:

with the plethora of great open-world games

 

yeah 2019 is known for its great open world games, too many to name, but I'll try to mention just a few of the highlights, there was, ummm Crackdown 3, what a banger, and Far Cry New Dawn, yeah because everybody is asking for more Far Cry, and a spinoff reuse of assets at that, you can beat Crackdown 3 in 7 hours and New Dawn in 11 according to howlongtobeat, don't know where this boundless amount of 200+ hours great open world games were in the first half of 2019 before Days Gone released, a 36 hour open world game, 144 short of "hundreds(plural) of hours"

 

8 minutes ago, Sicho said:

nobody has time for "good enough" anymore.

well, Days Gone sold over 7 million so I guess Days Gone is better than good enough then

[Sicho]

12 minutes ago, EDGES said:

 

true, if somehow you missed the day one patch that fixed everything

 

 

 

lo played it looooong after release when it was in that PS4 games for the launch of the PS5 PS Plus Bundle thingy and I had people flying through the air and other issues, even have a clip or two of that happening on my YT channel.

 

Also, when Days Gone came out, the world already played stuff like Breath of the Wild or Horizon for two years. It can't compete with that kind of excellence, especially with a cookie cutter zombie apocalypse setting. Having big amounts of zombies that you can brutally kill already got old after the release of Dead Rising 2 in 2010.

[ZombiJoel_Tlou3]

Days Gone was way better than fucking botw ffs. It's like an open world resident evil game and the zombie horde in that game was never done anywhere else and never will be again. It's a technical masterpiece that needs a sequel instead of 3 year old last of us remakes

[ElektrickRage]

4 hours ago, Sicho said:

 

tbf Days Gone simply wasn't really very good imo. I stopped playing after 6 or 10 hours. Zombies are just overdone by now, the whole biker setting was cringe af, the game was buggy and also the gas mechanic was annoying. It was probably "good enough" but with the plethora of great open-world games that all demand hundreds of hours of game time, nobody has time for "good enough" anymore.

The only thing I think let days gone down was the story and characters. The setting and game were great. But Im ashamed to say I didn’t play it until a year after it came out at least. And for free :(. One of the only games I felt guilty not buying at the start.

[Xillynoc]

Yeah, I've learned that reviews for any medium are, at their best, how you can look at a piece of media critically; whether or not you'll enjoy playing/watching/listening to/reading it is something else entirely and completely subjective, but the two are conflated all too much these days.

[Cyphronite_]

Just ignore reviews. The game is pretty cool. Same with dragons dogma 2. people moan about performance and i have the time of my (gaming)-life in that game on my ps5. 

Edited March 24 by Cyphronite_

[asdfghjkl95]

There should be an extraordinary reason to buy a game at a metacritic score less than 80. In my eyes, it's not a Ubisoft game with Team Ninja gameplay. That is a hard pass. In general, games with narratives should have a foundation in story, characters and themes. None of those is present in Rise of Ronin. ChatGPT level story seems to be present, non existent characters, and i doubt it has anything interesting to tell. I might as well just try out Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, GOW Ragnarok and 50 other games above 80 in metacritic score. There are too many open world games left to explore  

[JoaLoft]

7/10 is a good score.

8/10 is very good.

9/10 is amazing.

 

I fail to see how 7/10 is even average, let alone bad. I'm tired of people not using the full 1-10 scale and interpreting grades correctly. And even then, there's always going to be some subjectivity involved, based on tastes and experience with the final version. Personally, I reviewed Rise of the Ronin and it scored an 8/10 for me, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

 

And I disagree here in this thread that 6-7/10 is becoming the 4-5/10 rating. Some reviewers may forget how to count or apply the scale properly, but a lot of them including myself know what they're doing. People who think this game is a 4-5/10 haven't played an actual 4-5/10 game.

 

@ElektrickRage If you were looking forward to picking up this game: go ahead, pick it up and enjoy it. There's hardly any innovation present, but it borrows elements from other games and molds them into a fun experience, with a few caveats here and there.

 

That Australian price point does seem to be accurate when you look at the current exchange rate to euros or US dollars. No clue what the average wage of an Australian citizen is though.

[Vault-TecPhantom]

I think people place waaaay too much importance on scores/numbers and don't listen to the actual comments within a review when making purchasing decisions.

From everything that has been said, it sounds like the game is in need of a few performance patches and balance tweaking for those difficulty spikes, BUT it also has that fast-food Ubisoft checklist stuff that scratches my itch when I'm in the mood for it. So I will be waiting for a sale when, hopefully, the aforementioned issues have been ironed out.

 

Never let reviews kill your excitement for a game you're looking forward to. And if you're really on the fence, just wait for a price drop.

[Makaro1]

13 hours ago, Reject said:

Honestly this is what I was hoping for when buying it. I'm trying to get into assassin creed games but i find the story of a guy in the future going back in time just off putting lol. So I was hoping it would give me that without that story. 

 

That is NOT what Assassin's Creed is about at all.