Thoughts on "htoL#NiQ -The Firefly Diary-" & trophy set

[D-Tron]

I'm so not glad NISA only made it available for US...

I should search on Ebay for it... hopefully someone will have it.

I've been hearing people say they bought 3 of them since that was the limit. Someone on eBay is bound to have one.

 

On a side note:  I'm surprised the standard edition also sold out. I thought they would have an unlimited stock on cartridge only versions, but I guess I've been proven wrong.

 

Can't wait for this game. Pre ordered my LE a while ago. The visuals look outstanding, IMO.

[sephirothdude]

Out next week dood , was gonna pre order a physical edition on play Asia but the damn thing sold out

[Mirrors1118]

Most of the trophy are fairly easy. There are only two of them are difficult. one is to pass a certain part of a level without dying. Another one is to answer all the questions correctly in one level. The question will become more and more fast and I have to record them and slow-motion it in order to answer the question.   And actually this game's plot is very dark... And almost everything can kill the girl.  But still a fun game.

[bcks007]

I like what I've seen of this game from the trailers, and NIS has a great track record (no developer is perfect, mind you) so I'm looking forward to this.  It kind of reminds me of Limbo, which I also really liked, so that's a bonus too.

Rockstar says Hi

I actually love both company's, Nisa, Atlus, Rockstar.....

[DarknessKey92]

Just gonna copy & paste my status here:

http://store.nisamerica.com/preorders/htol-niq-the-firefly-diary

WTF!? I don't know if this is an "error" or if people returned some of their Limited Editions, but there appears to be a few in stock(Don't know how many exact, but says "0% - 5% LEFT") from the NIS America online store.

It's possible to purchase a HtoL#NiQ: The Firefly Diary Limited Edition for $29.99(USD) right now, if you want it & want to avoid paying $76.89(lowest) to $199.95(highest) on Amazon right now...I suggest getting it(Like right now).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00TXUCBDM

[Satoshi Ookami]

Now that I finished it.

Wow... the list seems easy but... you will experience some hell... (yea, I know it doesn't really sound convincing from someone who finished this in one day and is 3rd fastest achiever )

So, good luck to anyone going for this. You may get a fast Plat or you will be frustrated for life =D

[JaM]

Now that I finished it.

Wow... the list seems easy but... you will experience some hell... (yea, I know it doesn't really sound convincing from someone who finished this in one day and is 3rd fastest achiever )

So, good luck to anyone going for this. You may get a fast Plat or you will be frustrated for life =D

sooo.. I just picked up this game earlier... really curious how it can be frustrating? does it have super difficult puzzles? does it have super annoying/pain in the ass escort AI like Yorda? or does it have random/luck base stages?

[D-Tron]

sooo.. I just picked up this game earlier... really curious how it can be frustrating? does it have super difficult puzzles? does it have super annoying/pain in the ass escort AI like Yorda? or does it have random/luck base stages?

I would much rather have the first one. Unfortunately, this game is a combination of the second two. You have to escort a girl named Mion. You have no direct control over her. What makes it infuriating is that the puzzles are so poorly designed to have precise timing with some luck here and there. The "puzzle" aspect of this game feels completely thrown out of the window once stage 2-3 starts. There will be several stages after that you will encounter where you know what you are supposed to do, but Mion dies from almost everything that can touch her.

It's a short game (about two hours) if you know what you're doing. But if you're a trophy hunter, this game can take 10 hours to plat because the other 8 hours is just failed attempts.

Edited April 22, 2015 by Blue Flare

[JaM]

I would much rather have the first one. Unfortunately, this game is a combination of the second two. You have to escort a girl named Mion. You have no direct control over her. What makes it infuriating is that the puzzles are so poorly designed to have precise timing with some luck here and there. The "puzzle" aspect of this game feels completely thrown out of the window once stage 2-3 starts. There will be several stages after that you will encounter where you know what you are supposed to do, but Mion dies from almost everything that can touch he.

It's a short game (about two hours) if you know what you're doing. But if you're a trophy hunter, this game can take 10 hours to plat because the other 8 hours is just failed attempts.

 wow... seriously? there is a worse AI than Yorda? really not looking forward to start this game later...

[Satoshi Ookami]

 wow... seriously? there is a worse AI than Yorda? really not looking forward to start this game later...

From what I heard my friend saying about Ico, Yorda is actually AI that does something (and may screw you up ), right?

In this case, Mion doesn't do anything. She does precisely what you order her by moving the hotaru.

[D-Tron]

She does precisely what you order her by moving the hotaru.

From my experience, That's debatable. You still don't really have direct control over Mion.

Even when you do tell her to do the right stuff, she is so freaking slow.

[Wdjat Prinny Doods]

I would much rather have the first one. Unfortunately, this game is a combination of the second two. You have to escort a girl named Mion. You have no direct control over her. What makes it infuriating is that the puzzles are so poorly designed to have precise timing with some luck here and there. The "puzzle" aspect of this game feels completely thrown out of the window once stage 2-3 starts. There will be several stages after that you will encounter where you know what you are supposed to do, but Mion dies from almost everything that can touch her.

It's a short game (about two hours) if you know what you're doing. But if you're a trophy hunter, this game can take 10 hours to plat because the other 8 hours is just failed attempts.

 

 wow... seriously? there is a worse AI than Yorda? really not looking forward to start this game later...

 

Oh no.....an AI worse than Yorda?! I can't even fathom the idea, this does not compute doods?!!..........*prinny explosion*

[D-Tron]

Oh no.....an AI worse than Yorda?! I can't even fathom the idea, this does not compute doods?!!..........*prinny explosion*

I've never played Ico to know how bad Yorda is so I wasn't the one comparing.

The story itself has a pretty dark tone to it, but the artificial difficulty makes this game so frustrating that you hardly give a lick about the story later. When I finished this game all I could say was "Rest in Hades Mion! I'm not giving you any sardines when you arrive!"

I know, no sardines. Sounds cruel, but she deserves it!

Edited April 22, 2015 by Blue Flare

[Wdjat Prinny Doods]

I've never played Ico to know how bad Yorda is so I wasn't the one comparing.

The story itself has a pretty dark tone to it, but the artificial difficulty makes this game so frustrating that you hardly give a lick about the story later. When I finished this game all I could say was "Rest in Hades Mion! I'm not giving you any sardines when you arrive!"

I know, no sardines. Sounds cruel, but she deserves it!

 

Yeah doesn't sound like she deserves sardines anyway dood

[Satoshi Ookami]

The story itself has a pretty dark tone to it, but the artificial difficulty makes this game so frustrating that you hardly give a lick about the story later. When I finished this game all I could say was "Rest in Hades Mion! I'm not giving you any sardines when you arrive!"

I know, no sardines. Sounds cruel, but she deserves it!

How can you be so cruel to such a kawaii creature?

[JaM]

Oh no.....an AI worse than Yorda?! I can't even fathom the idea, this does not compute doods?!!..........*prinny explosion*

 

 

I've never played Ico to know how bad Yorda is so I wasn't the one comparing.

The story itself has a pretty dark tone to it, but the artificial difficulty makes this game so frustrating that you hardly give a lick about the story later. When I finished this game all I could say was "Rest in Hades Mion! I'm not giving you any sardines when you arrive!"

I know, no sardines. Sounds cruel, but she deserves it!

finally started this game earlier...

 

Doodie... not sure if it is good news... Yorda is still The Worst AI IMO, well since mentioned in previous posts - you do not direct control with Mion... my only complain so far with Mion is she are (like what others mentioned) too slow and too delicate... like seriously... I wish I could be Ico and dragged her... 

 

also, my frustration is starting to brew... has just reached 2-3 and seriously.. wth is with the difficulty spike all of a sudden... currently doing tableflips for the level specific trophy(thank goodness my Vita battery died cause if not, my Vita will be in pieces right now) just freaking hope that the story is worth this frustration...

[Satoshi Ookami]

 

also, my frustration is starting to brew... has just reached 2-3 and seriously.. wth is with the difficulty spike all of a sudden... currently doing tableflips for the level specific trophy(thank goodness my Vita battery died cause if not, my Vita will be in pieces right now) just freaking hope that the story is worth this frustration...

Oh... you reached the probably most bullshit trophy in the game.

Good luck, you're gonna be stuck there for a while...

Edited April 24, 2015 by Satoshi Ookami

[JaM]

Oh... you reached the probably most bullshit trophy in the game.

Good luck, you're gonna be stuck there for a while...

yeah been stuck in it since yesterday but... Finally did it earlier... ooh goodness... couldn't agree more... Chapter 2 is the most BS chapter... has most BS trophy and most BS boss battle(seriously???? luck base boss battle????)

 

I am really not sure if my frustration ran out or what... but I did enjoy Chapter 3- that is what I call puzzle boss battle (and currently enjoying Chapter 4 except for that stupid seed shooting plant portions in 4-2)

[Satoshi Ookami]

yeah been stuck in it since yesterday but... Finally did it earlier... ooh goodness... couldn't agree more... Chapter 2 is the most BS chapter... has most BS trophy and most BS boss battle(seriously???? luck base boss battle????)

 

I am really not sure if my frustration ran out or what... but I did enjoy Chapter 3- that is what I call puzzle boss battle (and currently enjoying Chapter 4 except for that stupid seed shooting plant portions in 4-2)

Good job!

Now feast your nerves on the Chapter 4 boss

[JaM]

Good job!

Now feast your nerves on the Chapter 4 boss

lol.. I actually took a peek in it's youtube vid just now... not really looking forward to it...

[DrBloodmoney]

Ive only put a few hours into this so far, but at this point im considering it a serious contender for Worst Game of my Lifetime.

This is the gaming equivalent of a hate crime, and it actively makes me want to avoid any games from the same developer, publisher and country.

I will platinum it - cause thats what i do - and then i will burn it and warn anyone who is thinking about getting it to steer as clear as possible away from it

[DesesG]

I was mostly fine with the bullshit in this game... until I got to the "Navi dies easily" part of 4-3. I almost broke my Vita there, specially after "no save point after that maze, now shoot a seed to a switch you can't see, you get only one chance". At least mastering that made getting the trophy for 2-3 a cakewalk.

 

So... any tips for the chapter 4 boss trophy? (if anyone still watches this thread)

I've been at it for a couple of days and no luck. I tried recording but my only availiable camera leaves a lot to be desired and I still fail a lot at the card shuffle parts.

Is the save point really unusable? Even if you don't fail? Because what makes this trophy irritating isn't the inhuman difficulty, but rather having to go through the first 10 slow, easy and boring iterations.

[greenzsaber]

My thoughts on the trophy set... "Why is the platinum name spelled incorrectly???"

 

I was mostly fine with the bullshit in this game... until I got to the "Navi dies easily" part of 4-3. I almost broke my Vita there, specially after "no save point after that maze, now shoot a seed to a switch you can't see, you get only one chance". At least mastering that made getting the trophy for 2-3 a cakewalk.

 

So... any tips for the chapter 4 boss trophy? (if anyone still watches this thread)

I've been at it for a couple of days and no luck. I tried recording but my only availiable camera leaves a lot to be desired and I still fail a lot at the card shuffle parts.

Is the save point really unusable? Even if you don't fail? Because what makes this trophy irritating isn't the inhuman difficulty, but rather having to go through the first 10 slow, easy and boring iterations.

Camera from an actual camera, or a cellphone? Most people have used cellphone cameras successfully. It doesn't have to be anything high tech, just decent enough that you can flip through the video and see which boxes have switched places at any time. That's really all you need for the box part.

[DesesG]

My thoughts on the trophy set... "Why is the platinum name spelled incorrectly???"

 

Camera from an actual camera, or a cellphone? Most people have used cellphone cameras successfully. It doesn't have to be anything high tech, just decent enough that you can flip through the video and see which boxes have switched places at any time. That's really all you need for the box part.

 

A cellphone, but a pretty bad one, so the recording framerate is too low and when the same switch happens 2-4 consecutive times I can't tell the difference.

Guess I'll keep trying until I either get it or my patience runs out.

 

P.S.: perseverance paid off! In only eight more tries I managed to do it!

Edited June 30, 2015 by DesesG

[Shakilrahman96]

Just played the game after having it bought and on my vita for months, Wow.... that was a lot more depressing than I ever would have thought it would be. Not going to spoil anything but I actually got pretty upset for a game with little to no dialogue and little explanation of what was going on.

 

Game difficulty: 3/10, the game itself isn't difficult whatsoever, a few puzzles can be tricky like the maze on 4-3, that took me 40mins to get through alone but other than that it is a simple game with easy boss fights.

 

Trophy difficulty: 5/10, There are a fair bit of decent trophies that will pop naturally as you progress the game, other than that 2-3 trophies might cause you some "trouble".

1: Getting through the maze in 2mins 10 secs without dying. I actually got this on my 2nd try lol so I found this the least difficult.

2: Getting through the level with the umbrella without touching the ground, there was a very narrow hit or miss space at one point that took me 3-4 times to get through.

3: Last boss guessing game. Used my iPhone to record each round and examine the clip frame by frame, first time I made a silly slip up at round 23/25 lol so I had to restart but I got it on my second try.

 

2nd fastest achiever, could have easily been the first but I had to take a 4 hour total break due to a massive argument with my girlfriend so I am a little disappointed that happened lol.