ProfBambam55 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) A quick update: we made it to 23/29 4-man using the method I laid out earlier in this thread and I died...everyone quickly closed app...only my progress got reset to 0...we continued and all other players are now at 24/29...we plan on finishing up tomorrow night and I'll post an update...so far the only hypothesis I have are good internet connection and all the steps I outlined in my previous post on a solution which we have followed religiously to prevent the random resetting...once again, no guarantees it will work for every group but has certainly been working for us... Edited December 20, 2017 by ProfBambam55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogie838 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 hours ago, ProfBambam55 said: A quick update: we made it to 23/29 4-man using the method I laid out earlier in this thread and I died...everyone quickly closed app...only my progress got reset to 0...we continued and all other players are now at 24/29...we plan on finishing up tomorrow night and I'll post an update...so far the only hypothesis I have are good internet connection and all the steps I outlined in my previous post on a solution which we have followed religiously to prevent the random resetting...once again, no guarantees it will work for every group but has certainly been working for us... So it seems if you die your progress gets reset straight away? So they have patched the quitting the game trick but haven't bothered fixing problems with it resetting for no reason... at least they have their priorities in order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfBambam55 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hogie838 said: So it seems if you die your progress gets reset straight away? So they have patched the quitting the game trick but haven't bothered fixing problems with it resetting for no reason... at least they have their priorities in order If my experience says anything about progress resets then it would seem closing app only resets progress for the person that dies...it happened to me as mentioned above and only to the person that died on our previous run...i'm gonna look at the video recording when I get off work and see if perhaps I was just too slow...i'll post some thoughts later tonight when we finish up our current run...i'll try and put that part of the vid up on YouTube at some point for y'all to judge...busy life so might not be soon though... p.s. don't use the fully armored kuruma when you're escorting the ulp heli in mission 24...they blew mine up and that's how I died...we did it with the insurgent without issues the 2nd time around...recommend the vigilante as a 2nd ride for 3-player...it's not even a hard mission as we had no troubles 2-player with just the chernobog...just unlucky... do use the kuruma to clear out all the dudes at the compound surrounding the chernobog though...makes that part a breeze... Edited December 20, 2017 by ProfBambam55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoPsk Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hi guys. I start the doomsday heist whit my other friend trying to get the criminal mastermind challenge, We complete the act 1 and 2 without dies, and after a complete a last mission in the act 2, the criminal mastermind challenge it is reset. This is shit, i restarted 3 times this heist without dies and 3 times the challenge is restarted. I do not want to play with the anxiety of losing everything. The trophy for the criminal mastermind challenge is hard but is very satisfactory, but if every time the challenge in the statistics is reset, is impossible to get it and so much frustrating. I don't know what this is due to, but for now i give up and I'm waiting for a patch. I followed all the advice written here, but there is no way for me. i send a ticket to rockstar support, I do not expect an answer, but at least it is fixed. if anyone has advice on how to solve all this, let me know. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ProfBambam55 Posted December 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) final update on this run...4-man mastermind complete tonight...i'm the only one in our group who didn't unlock the award due to my death last night...my stats progress remained at 0 for the final missions...everyone else has the iv mastermind challenge shown as "complete" in their stats and earned its related bonuses... how we overcame the random reset glitch: 1 - I was host...my internet speeds are top notch and I use a wired connection... 2 - we all met up in a public lobby... 3 - I signed up as a VIP and hired the other players as bodyguards... 4 - we all gathered in my facility's heist planning room... 5 - we did the preps in order from top to bottom... 6 - once preps were complete, I quit to single player and started an invite only lobby... 7- once again I registered as vip, hired bodyguards and the whole team met up in my heist planning room... 8 - we did the setups in order from top to bottom again and then the finale... 9 - we repeated these steps for all preps, setups and finales...i.e. all preps in public, all setups and finales in invite only... notes : 1 - before starting up any given prep, setup, or finale make sure all players in the lobby are indeed associates by hitting the down button on the d-pad and checking the players list that appears in the top left corner... 2 - make sure to all be in the host's heist planning room before the host starts up every single mission... 3 - check award progress in start menu > stats > awards > doomsday heist before and after each mission to confirm that it is progressing properly... 4 - should any player die, disconnect, fail a task, or any other odd occurrence the safest bet is for all players to hold the ps button and close application as soon as possible...we used the phrase "close app!...close app!" when this happened and 3/4 players now have 29/29 on the iv challenge...haha... side note: not sure if relevant but we did not use lester to remove wanted levels nor trip skip... this is the method that worked for us so I hope some of you also find it useful...i'm not sure if it's a 100% fix but I haven't seen any other solutions yet so perhaps worth a try... next up is a 2-man run...i'll post any updates here should we encounter any other issues with the random resetting but I think I've shared about all I can on the topic for now...good luck and have fun... Edited December 21, 2017 by ProfBambam55 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azedrun Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, ProfBambam55 said: final update on this run...4-man mastermind complete tonight...i'm the only one in our group who didn't unlock the award due to my death last night...my stats progress remained at 0 for the final missions...everyone else has the iv mastermind challenge shown as "complete" in their stats and earned its related bonuses... how we overcame the random reset glitch: 1 - I was host...my internet speeds are top notch and I use a wired connection... 2 - we all met up in a public lobby... 3 - I signed up as a VIP and hired the other players as bodyguards... 4 - we all gathered in my facility's heist planning room... 5 - we did the preps in order from top to bottom... 6 - once preps were complete, I quit to single player and started an invite only lobby... 7- once again I registered as vip, hired bodyguards and the whole team met up in my heist planning room... 8 - we did the setups in order from top to bottom again and then the finale... 9 - we repeated these steps for all preps, setups and finales...i.e. all preps in public, all setups and finales in invite only... notes : 1 - before starting up any given prep, setup, or finale make sure all players in the lobby are indeed associates by hitting the down button on the d-pad and checking the players list that appears in the top left corner... 2 - make sure to all be in the host's heist planning room before the host starts up every single mission... 3 - check award progress in start menu > stats > awards > doomsday heist before and after each mission to confirm that it is progressing properly... 4 - should any player die, disconnect, fail a task, or any other odd occurrence the safest bet is for all players to hold the ps button and close application as soon as possible...we used the phrase "close app!...close app!" when this happened and 3/4 players now have 29/29 on the iv challenge...haha... side note: not sure if relevant but we did not use lester to remove wanted levels nor trip skip... this is the method that worked for us so I hope some of you also find it useful...i'm not sure if it's a 100% fix but I haven't seen any other solutions yet so perhaps worth a try... next up is a 2-man run...i'll post any updates here should we encounter any other issues with the random resetting but I think I've shared about all I can on the topic for now...good luck and have fun... Hello ! Just to tell you that we did a 3 players run ton complete "mastermind III" with your method above and it worked perfectly. So thank you for your help @ProfBambam55 and i think we can confirm that you found a fix ! For people asking if it is true or not or want to see how we did it, here is the link: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/211088236?t=04h20m58s We managed to complete this 3 players run in about 14 hours. You will see with the link that we did 3 "close app", 1 in a setup mission (my friend killed herself with a mine), it counted as a suicide in the kill feed then we all closed the app very fast and nobody lost his progression. @ProfBambam55 maybe that if you don't die by an enemy (but with a suicide), it doesn't count for a real death to break your mastermind III reward (at least if you close the app quickly enough). The 2nd time we closed the app was the one when we started the 2nd heist but didn't took the roles we wanted so we all closed the app at the exact same time during the start of the heist to restart with good roles and we didn't lose the reward here. Then the 3rd time we closed the app was when i killed myself by shooting a rocket in my friend near me by mistake in a setup on Act 3 (another suicide in the kill feed), we all closed the app very fast too and nobody lost his reward for mastermind III. Hope my video above will help people to understand how we made it and sorry about my english as i am french so that's why you will hear french in the video. Good luck to everybody with this mastermind challenge, the next thing we are going to try for is the Elitist trophy in several minutes so have a good day ! Edited December 21, 2017 by Azedrun spelling mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergen Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, ProfBambam55 said: final update on this run...4-man mastermind complete tonight...i'm the only one in our group who didn't unlock the award due to my death last night...my stats progress remained at 0 for the final missions...everyone else has the iv mastermind challenge shown as "complete" in their stats and earned its related bonuses... how we overcame the random reset glitch: 1 - I was host...my internet speeds are top notch and I use a wired connection... 2 - we all met up in a public lobby... 3 - I signed up as a VIP and hired the other players as bodyguards... 4 - we all gathered in my facility's heist planning room... 5 - we did the preps in order from top to bottom... 6 - once preps were complete, I quit to single player and started an invite only lobby... 7- once again I registered as vip, hired bodyguards and the whole team met up in my heist planning room... 8 - we did the setups in order from top to bottom again and then the finale... 9 - we repeated these steps for all preps, setups and finales...i.e. all preps in public, all setups and finales in invite only... notes : 1 - before starting up any given prep, setup, or finale make sure all players in the lobby are indeed associates by hitting the down button on the d-pad and checking the players list that appears in the top left corner... 2 - make sure to all be in the host's heist planning room before the host starts up every single mission... 3 - check award progress in start menu > stats > awards > doomsday heist before and after each mission to confirm that it is progressing properly... 4 - should any player die, disconnect, fail a task, or any other odd occurrence the safest bet is for all players to hold the ps button and close application as soon as possible...we used the phrase "close app!...close app!" when this happened and 3/4 players now have 29/29 on the iv challenge...haha... side note: not sure if relevant but we did not use lester to remove wanted levels nor trip skip... this is the method that worked for us so I hope some of you also find it useful...i'm not sure if it's a 100% fix but I haven't seen any other solutions yet so perhaps worth a try... next up is a 2-man run...i'll post any updates here should we encounter any other issues with the random resetting but I think I've shared about all I can on the topic for now...good luck and have fun... I'd probably feel bad continuing if my progress reset, but it would have been in favour of the 3 people who survived. I hope they'll return and help you get it, I know you can do it. I'm just wondering, how are you going to decide in your four player team who you'll drop from the three player run? I'm sure that would be a very difficult thing for one person to stomach, the fact that their 4 player team wants to go ahead without them. I did the three player run before even considering asking a fourth player. I hope people also don't have to be paranoid about resets in the future, it should be Rockstar's duty to release things like this without it being broken. If there was a "Criminal Mastermind skip to finale glitch" or something then they'd have patched it within the day because of the money people could be getting from it hahaha. Edited December 21, 2017 by Sergen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogie838 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sergen said: I'd probably feel bad continuing if my progress reset, but it would have been in favour of the 3 people who survived. I hope they'll return and help you get it, I know you can do it. I'm just wondering, how are you going to decide in your four player team who you'll drop from the three player run? I'm sure that would be a very difficult thing for one person to stomach, the fact that their 4 player team wants to go ahead without them. I did the three player run before even considering asking a fourth player. We are doing a 4 player run and have decided to split into pairs for the 2 player run when it is complete. Then we will each find another player for the 3 person run. That way no one gets left out ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfBambam55 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Azedrun said: Hello ! Just to tell you that we did a 3 players run ton complete "mastermind III" with your method above and it worked perfectly. So thank you for your help @ProfBambam55 and i think we can confirm that you found a fix ! For people asking if it is true or not or want to see how we did it, here is the link: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/211088236?t=04h20m58s We managed to complete this 3 players run in about 14 hours. so glad to hear it helped... 1 hour ago, Sergen said: I'd probably feel bad continuing if my progress reset, but it would have been in favour of the 3 people who survived. I hope they'll return and help you get it, I know you can do it. I'm just wondering, how are you going to decide in your four player team who you'll drop from the three player run? I'm sure that would be a very difficult thing for one person to stomach, the fact that their 4 player team wants to go ahead without them. I did the three player run before even considering asking a fourth player. we've got a pretty big group of awesome dudes/dudettes going for the challenges so not a big deal on finding people to redo the 4-man and nobody is taking offense to being dropped for 3-man...we've got the epitome of what I'd call a good community going so people are happy to match up with whoever, finish runs that could get reset like mine did, and do multiple 2, 3, or 4-man runs to help others out...we've been sharing strats and knowledge, and combine this with brilliant mic'd co-op, encouragement throughout the groups, and it's been a heck of a lot of fun so far...we've even had a group of guys basically griefing all our opponents in the public lobbies to help us out on preps...looking forward to more in the upcoming weeks...epic dlc...epic...throw in some trophies as an added bonus/incentive and it's hard to believe it was free... Edited December 21, 2017 by ProfBambam55 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eispan Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Got this from "the other side" who had no problems getting the heist the normal way... Quote I have no idea what might be causing issues for you, but me and my crew finished 3p Criminal Mastermind today, and we didn't get any glitches for the past 3 evenings. - Dice Hazard Quote We did preps in a public lobby, but we did setups and finales in an invite only lobby. - Dice Hazard I've read somewhere that this may be a connection issue like the first/original heists. But since that didn't have trophies, other gamers didn't really gave that much attention but AFAIK R* did fix this one... So the new ones may also be a connection issue and going back in a public lobby with so many other (random) players after doing the Doomsday heist (with the consideration of the group most likely will not have the same internet speeds and all) data transfer/saves to the R* servers may have not gone through - at least for some. So perhaps folks may try playing all together in an invite only lobby for the main setups/finale? As what Die Hazard have said, they had NO PROBLEMS at all completing the CM and eventually ALL of them got the trophy the normal way - hassle free. It's a no brainer as you will most likely be playing with friends or gamers who will have to be in your friends list. So if playing this in a invite only session ups the chances of you and your gang getting the trophy, I see no reason on why not playing this the safe/lag-free way. Edited December 23, 2017 by eispan71 added more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfBambam55 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, eispan71 said: I've read somewhere that this may be a connection issue like the first/original heists. I agree with this but have no way of testing...completed a 2-man run last night without any issues...i would take it a step further than just public vs invite only though...i would say avoid the invite process entirely for all of the heist missions...in an invite only session I was in the habit of just starting up the heist whenever then choosing "from friends" when inviting to setups and although it worked with no issues multiple times our progress was reset for no apparent reason on several occasions...and these resets occurred in a 2-man lobby with the same person I just finished with last night...so I would say being associates and in the facility with the heist leader upon starting up setups/finales could also be an important detail in avoiding connection problem resets...it bypasses the invite process which seems to be part of the issue from our experience... also a quick update...calling Lester to remove wanted levels and using trip skip are all good for criminal mastermind runs...tested...debunked... Edited December 23, 2017 by ProfBambam55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogie838 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Thanks for the advice @ProfBambam55 We completed CM IV today using your suggestions. We died several times and quit the game - and it worked, so that seems fine. We didn't want to risk having Lester clear the cops or use trip skip. Seems to work well this way for anyone else going for it... 3 minutes out for elite challenge on Act III, though we weren't really trying for it - more concerned with just finishing the heist. At least we know we can do it because we achieved all the other requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEOSS77 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Team: 2 players 3 times resetting yesterday, start together from base room. Wait patch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJ9999vr Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 19 hours ago, DEOSS77 said: Team: 2 players 3 times resetting yesterday, start together from base room. Wait patch... Just did it with 2 players, and with dying and restarting somewhere around 10 times (quitting the game, as quickly the mission fails). And we both got it no problem. We used public lobbys for the freedom setups, and invite only for the rest. We never used any type of fast travel. I was the CEO, and always made sure my teammate was an associate before entering my facility. To add to those, we never used mic. And we had never played with each other before on gta, not to mention he hadn't even done all heists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEOSS77 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 6 hours ago, OJ9999vr said: Just did it with 2 players, and with dying and restarting somewhere around 10 times (quitting the game, as quickly the mission fails). And we both got it no problem. We used public lobbys for the freedom setups, and invite only for the rest. We never used any type of fast travel. I was the CEO, and always made sure my teammate was an associate before entering my facility. To add to those, we never used mic. And we had never played with each other before on gta, not to mention he hadn't even done all heists. You have EU version game or from USA PStore? Big problem with servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJ9999vr Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 8 hours ago, DEOSS77 said: You have EU version game or from USA PStore? Big problem with servers I've got the EU version, not sure if the problem lies within the servers or the coding though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfBambam55 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 just got word back from r* support: "Hello, Thank you for contacting Rockstar Support. We have no confirmed reports of issues with Heist mission payouts or progression. Progression will be reset if the player launches a mission without the same team members, changes the difficulty of the Heist after the initial launch, or loses connection to GTA Online during a mission. We can still try to help you with this by requesting the following: Date/Time you encountered the issue A screenshot of your Doomsday Heist Awards [Stats > Awards > Doomsday Heists tab in the Pause Menu] or Heist Awards [Stats>Awards>Heists tab in the Pause Menu] While it is also beneficial if you have video of the issue you encountered, we will be able to continue investigating with just the information above. If you have any other questions, please let us know. Best regards, Rockstar Support" so there you have it...document your resets...having completed both 2 and 3-man cm now I have no idea if there is still an issue with progress resets...have been taking the steps I outlined and it's been working as a fix...anyone still having issues?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogie838 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 hours ago, ProfBambam55 said: just got word back from r* support: "Hello, Thank you for contacting Rockstar Support. We have no confirmed reports of issues with Heist mission payouts or progression. Progression will be reset if the player launches a mission without the same team members, changes the difficulty of the Heist after the initial launch, or loses connection to GTA Online during a mission. We can still try to help you with this by requesting the following: Date/Time you encountered the issue A screenshot of your Doomsday Heist Awards [Stats > Awards > Doomsday Heists tab in the Pause Menu] or Heist Awards [Stats>Awards>Heists tab in the Pause Menu] While it is also beneficial if you have video of the issue you encountered, we will be able to continue investigating with just the information above. If you have any other questions, please let us know. Best regards, Rockstar Support" so there you have it...document your resets...having completed both 2 and 3-man cm now I have no idea if there is still an issue with progress resets...have been taking the steps I outlined and it's been working as a fix...anyone still having issues?... I got the exact same email today also haha. So far we haven't had any issues but are playing it very safe - No trip skip etc, making sure we are all in the planning room before starting a mission and quitting as soon as someone dies. Almost finished the 2-man run and then just the 3-man run left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_0089 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 11 hours ago, ProfBambam55 said: just got word back from r* support: "Hello, Thank you for contacting Rockstar Support. We have no confirmed reports of issues with Heist mission payouts or progression. Progression will be reset if the player launches a mission without the same team members, changes the difficulty of the Heist after the initial launch, or loses connection to GTA Online during a mission. We can still try to help you with this by requesting the following: Date/Time you encountered the issue A screenshot of your Doomsday Heist Awards [Stats > Awards > Doomsday Heists tab in the Pause Menu] or Heist Awards [Stats>Awards>Heists tab in the Pause Menu] While it is also beneficial if you have video of the issue you encountered, we will be able to continue investigating with just the information above. If you have any other questions, please let us know. Best regards, Rockstar Support" so there you have it...document your resets...having completed both 2 and 3-man cm now I have no idea if there is still an issue with progress resets...have been taking the steps I outlined and it's been working as a fix...anyone still having issues?... I got the exact same email yesterday as well. My group is still having issues with the 4-man cm though. For some reason even in an invite only lobby we get split into separate invite only lobbies upon completion of a mission. This doesn't always reset our CM progress but more often than not it does. Has anyone else run into this problem, this trophy will be the death of me. Also as a note we are all using direct Ethernet, no wireless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfBambam55 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, stupid0089 said: My group is still having issues with the 4-man cm though. For some reason even in an invite only lobby we get split into separate invite only lobbies upon completion of a mission. This doesn't always reset our CM progress but more often than not it does. Has anyone else run into this problem I recommend setting your share play options to 60 minutes...when your progress gets reset hit the share button then square to save the footage...send it to r*... yes, we have also been getting split up after all the setups and finales...i invite everyone back to my session, hire as bodyguards again, invite to my facility, confirm that everyone's award progress is still intact, and wait for everyone to be in planning room before starting up again...yes, it's an extra like 5 mins per mission but so far no reset issues...fingers crossed... also just a side note that the criminal mastermind trophy seems to be directly related the doomsday heist awards in the stats menu...if you get reset for no reason and continue to the end without deaths or further issues, the trophy will not unlock...tested... Edited December 28, 2017 by ProfBambam55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_0089 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, ProfBambam55 said: I recommend setting your share play options to 60 minutes...when your progress gets reset hit the share button then square to save the footage...send it to r*... yes, we have also been getting split up after all the setups and finales...i invite everyone back to my session, hire as bodyguards again, invite to my facility, confirm that everyone's progress is still intact, and wait for everyone to be in planning room before starting up again...yes, it's an extra like 5 mins per mission but so far no reset issues...fingers crossed... Thanks @ProfBambam55. We didn't try last night but I will for sure be sending R* a video as I want this sh!t resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucare Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Played with 4 people right now and got a reset after joining lobby of mission 13/29 for no reason, just forgot to join a private lobby! But still it is a bug.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfBambam55 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, crucare said: Played with 4 people right now and got a reset after joining lobby of mission 13/29 for no reason, just forgot to join a private lobby! But still it is a bug.. then please hit share button then square...depending on settings it will save the last 15+ minutes of gameplay...please also then share this footage with rockstar support... Edited December 29, 2017 by ProfBambam55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucare Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) My teammate is on the way, he will post a youtube link here later too Edited December 29, 2017 by crucare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucare Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Ok here are 2 vids from my mates which proof this bug: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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