TragicTravesty Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) I’m a little upset about this trophy list. I’ve been waiting for this game to show up on PS4 and when it finally does it gets a trash 20 bronze trophy list?!? So many cheap, uninspired indies have full lists with Platinums but this popular, well made game doesn’t? I just don’t understand it... Note* I love indie games. I definitely have a lot of those “uninspired indies” in my completed list and have purchased a lot that I haven’t played yet. I’m just disappointed right now... Edited July 13, 2019 by TragicTravesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykacz Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Yup, I feel the same. There will be a physical edition. Why without platinum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post damon8r351 Posted July 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Is it still a popular, well-made game? Is it still something you're going to play all the way to the end, having fun the entire way? Then so what about the trophy list? A crap trophy list doesn't detract from the fun value of the game itself. Or were you only going to get out of the game what the trophy list told you to get out of it? And due to it being a substandard list you're worried you're not going to get out of the game what you thought you were going to get out of it, because you only play parts of games that lead you to a trophy? Because that is Edited July 13, 2019 by damon8r351 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrHambone Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 This game looks really fun, and long! Too bad it doesn't have a platinum, but I'd still give this game a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgins Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I'm still gonna get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordguwa Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 it's still a buy regardless if it had a plat or not. it just be a 100% game that i play inbetween my plat runs sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TragicTravesty Posted July 13, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Honestly, unless it is something that I really want to play, I operate on a “No Plat, No Purchase” gaming model these days. I WILL likely still get Forager as I’ve been wanting to play it since it was announced, but I was just commenting on the sad trophy list. There is no reason for this game to not have a full-list when all of Ratalaika games are both cross-buy and full (easy) trophy lists. Also, kinda seems like you post a lot on this site @damon8r351, so you probably understand this is a site for trophy hunters. Why does it surprise you when people play games that lead to trophies? Trophy hunting is my hobby, and now that I’m older, I have to be a bit more selective with regards to what I purchase/play. If a game doesn’t increase that trophy count in a significant way, I have to really think on whether or not I should buy it. That being said, I LIKELY will pick up Forager because of my excitement regarding its release, but I decided to vent a little bit of my disappointment on the forum. I guess that is a crime to some... Edited July 13, 2019 by TragicTravesty 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_-_808 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, TragicTravesty said: Honestly, unless it is something that I really want to play, I operate on a “No Plat, No Purchase” gaming model these days. I WILL likely still get Forager as I’ve been wanting to play it since it was announced, but I was just commenting on the sad trophy list. There is no reason for this game to not have a full-list when all of Ratalaika games are both cross-buy and full (easy) trophy lists. Also, kinda seems like you post a lot on this site @damon8r351, so you probably understand this is a site for trophy hunters. Why does it surprise you when people play games that lead to trophies? Trophy hunting is my hobby, and now that I’m older, I have to be a bit more selective with regards to what I purchase/play. If a game doesn’t increase that trophy count in a significant way, I have to really think on whether or not I should buy it. That being said, I LIKELY will pick up Forager because of my excitement regarding its release, but I decided to vent a little bit of my disappointment on the forum. I guess that is a crime to some... It's not the disappointment about not having a plat that was put into question. It's more of a question of "when did people stop playing games for enjoyment and only play them for trophies?" To each their own and all, but in my opinion, "no plat, no play" is silly because there are a lot of good enjoyable games out there with a decently thought out trophy list, yet no plat. Again, in my opinion, you're making yourself miss out on a lot with that policy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damon8r351 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, AJ_-_808 said: It's not the disappointment about not having a plat that was put into question. It's more of a question of "when did people stop playing games for enjoyment and only play them for trophies?" To each their own and all, but in my opinion, "no plat, no play" is silly because there are a lot of good enjoyable games out there with a decently thought out trophy list, yet no plat. Again, in my opinion, you're making yourself miss out on a lot with that policy. Yes, we're going to go with this as my reply also, because it was put far more diplomatically than I would've done it. And the last thing I feel like doing today is inciting the apparent vast cabal of people hanging on my nutsack about my "behavior" recently. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa King Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I must have missed the part in the OP where @TragicTravesty said they weren't going to play the game. An opinion that the trophy list is disappointing was what I got out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makilio Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Those look like some grindy bronze trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damon8r351 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 No, he never did say say that he wasn't going to play it. However, about the list being disappointing, let's consider this as a philosophical discussion: One doesn't need a trophy in place to put a challenge on oneself in any game, nor do they need a trophy to convince oneself to explore every corner of the game. You can do that with or without a bitmap image. Therefore, since any amount greater than zero is better than the amount being zero (something is better than nothing), at what point does a trophy list become disappointing, and what point does it become not disappointing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TragicTravesty Posted July 13, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, damon8r351 said: No, he never did say say that he wasn't going to play it. However, about the list being disappointing, let's consider this as a philosophical discussion: One doesn't need a trophy in place to put a challenge on oneself in any game, nor do they need a trophy to convince oneself to explore every corner of the game. You can do that with or without a bitmap image. Therefore, since any amount greater than zero is better than the amount being zero (something is better than nothing), at what point does a trophy list become disappointing, and what point does it become not disappointing? You do raise an interesting point and that is one that I feel has changed over the last 10 years of trophies being present on the PSN. When Sony originally introduced trophies on the PS3 there seemed a good “reason” whether a game had Platinums/Full Trophy Lists or just a minor list of various sizes/values. This reason essentially separated large development studios from indies. Large development studios having (required to) a list that was generally made up of an assortment of bronze, silver, and gold trophies often totalling to 50 with 1 additional Platinum trophy, while Indie studios/smaller development studios had somewhere in the range of 10,12, or 20 trophies. At this point in time and for a few years to follow, this was just the normal way of things and what a player was to expect with regards to trophy lists... thus, no disappointment when it came to the size of a trophy list and the presence of a platinum. Skip forward to recent years and trophy lists are more of a case by case basis with regards to their trophy contents. Nowadays, players can get full platinum lists in just a handful of minutes and don’t seem to be managed in the same way that they once were. Thus, when it comes to smaller indie games/indie developers, it is often unknown if a game that you are REALLY looking forward to will have a platinum/full trophy list or a simple list of a few bronze, silver, and golds. As someone that was looking forward to the release of Forager on the PSN, I was just a little saddened when I saw that something that I was looking forward to wouldn’t add as much to my trophy count as I would have liked. Pretty much 100% buying this game(unless it prices itself out of a purchase before a deep sale)... and I will enjoy it. I just always hope for a full trophy list when a game that I’ve been looking forward to finally releases its list. No, trophies aren’t needed to motivate me to play-through a game to completion and see every nook and cranny that a game has to offer... but they do help and encourage it. I hope that everyone that loves indie games gives Forager a try. It has looked amazing to me with everything that I’ve seen. There. Enough said from me. Edited July 13, 2019 by TragicTravesty needed to make another point. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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