thegirlruka Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Xploder has announced that their efforts to resign save files on PS4 have been successful. Their latest update is claimed to work even on firmware 4.50. Public paid beta is expected to begin by the end of the month. Their beta will come bundled with saves for Battlefield 1, Dark Souls 3, Fallout 4, Bloodborne, Dying Light, Deus Ex, Mass Effect Andromeda, Minecraft PS4 Edition, The Witcher 3, Until Dawn, Horizon Zero Dawn, Metal Gear Solid V, and The Last Guardian. They will also be able to use files anyone has previously uploaded and will upload in the future. UPDATE: The Xploder devs have sent an email to all beta supporters announcing that the beta will be released in approximately 2 weeks. Removed link to prevent people from buying it. Couldn't acutally remove the link, so it now links to psnprofiles.com Edited April 30, 2017 by Jibril Updated with new info 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 People are nuts for buying this, particularly sight unseen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulTorment Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I feel like people who use this for trophies will be spotted pretty easy for the most part. It will result in a lot of out of order trophies or mass trophy auto-popping. If this happens then at the very least it will be nice to finally flag suspicious ps4 lists. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIackgate Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I didn't see anything about popping trophies with this tool, although I imagine that is one side effect that it will produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Even if it doesn't pop profiles directly, I'd bet that there will be some saves in their database which allow you to unlock all trophies in a very short amount of time - like all chapters/levels/difficulties are unlocked, 49/50 collectibles have already been obtained, etc etc. No different from how some PS4 players manipulate their own saves & profile (without hacking) to allow them to pop all the Uncharted 4 trophies in a couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegirlruka Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, StrickenBiged said: Even if it doesn't pop profiles directly, I'd bet that there will be some saves in their database which allow you to unlock all trophies in a very short amount of time - like all chapters/levels/difficulties are unlocked, 49/50 collectibles have already been obtained, etc etc. No different from how some PS4 players manipulate their own saves & profile (without hacking) to allow them to pop all the Uncharted 4 trophies in a couple of hours. That's exactly correct. And, like with ps3 games, we won't be able to know whether the files are their own or downloaded from the internet. Bad times that were previously ok on ps4 will need to be flagged or times that were previously bad on ps3 will need to be unflagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav9834 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Is xploder real for ps3? It has 0 reviews. Hmmm This is troubling if real. They didn't use a secure connection for creating a new account(I made a fake account with an email that has no relation to my personal information) It is https at checkout but they only take visa and Mastercard, credit and debit. Usually you'd see paypal for this sort of thing imo. That doesn't mean it's not real, just sketchy with your info and payments. Though a prepaid visa gift card would be safest. You wouldn't get your money back but they wouldn't have your info. This should be investigated. I don't want to be the guinea pig even with the use of a different psn account though as psn can ip block you i believe. Maybe someone else will take the leap to prove ps4 will be able to be hackable via this software, and we can start flagging ps4 games. (I do not condone this software, in fact extremely against it and hope if it's real it gets patched immediately after release. But I definitely do NOT want psnp to have a leaderboard nightmare, it's bad enough as is with ps3 + vita. So this should be taken seriously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegirlruka Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Dav9834 said: Is xploder real for ps3? It has 0 reviews. It is real, but most "hackers" haven't used it in years. There is an alternative software that is free of charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab4h4r4k1 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 This is a nice trap. Sony only needs to release a new system update and this program becomes obsolete. Worse, devs will probably not give its costumers new versions for free, but charge them if they want it. Also, as I said in a topic regarding this: it is too risky to tamper with the savedata from a system that uploads and downloads info on a regular basis. People will buy this thing expecting to complete/plat a game and may end up with a very expensive brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav9834 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jibril said: It is real, but most "hackers" haven't used it in years. There is an alternative software that is free of charge. In that case it is troubling. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, ab4h4r4k1 said: People will buy this thing expecting to complete/plat a game and may end up with a very expensive brick. In which case, fantastic, because screw those people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav9834 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, ab4h4r4k1 said: This is a nice trap. Sony only needs to release a new system update and this program becomes obsolete. Worse, devs will probably not give its costumers new versions for free, but charge them if they want it. Also, as I said in a topic regarding this: it is too risky to tamper with the savedata from a system that uploads and downloads info on a regular basis. People will buy this thing expecting to complete/plat a game and may end up with a very expensive brick. Even if they charge for a second exploit, there are many who will justify it. As someone who used to(lg v20 is smooooth so it's stock) root their phones, I know a lot of work goes into finding exploits, and I would have supported buying an updated software to root my phone in the past. Though it was mostly free, unless you were trying to get developers on xda to find an exploit for a specific phone by raising money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftprophet Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said: In which case, fantastic, because screw those people. Seriously. What the actual fuck. Why is this even a thing? I seriously hope every single person who uses this has their system brick and rendered useless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sly Ripper Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, ab4h4r4k1 said: This is a nice trap. Sony only needs to release a new system update and this program becomes obsolete. Worse, devs will probably not give its costumers new versions for free, but charge them if they want it. Also, as I said in a topic regarding this: it is too risky to tamper with the savedata from a system that uploads and downloads info on a regular basis. People will buy this thing expecting to complete/plat a game and may end up with a very expensive brick. How will they fix it without invalidating EVERY savegame ever created before the update? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, ab4h4r4k1 said: may end up with a very expensive brick. Which PS4 is now? 1 hour ago, ab4h4r4k1 said: People will buy this thing expecting to complete/plat a game and may end up with a very expensive brick. You get what you deserve, let them have it =D In any case... this is a new way to do 'buying trophies', brilliant... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmland12 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Sadly, it looks like the era of unhackable trophies on PS4 is coming to an end. Even if this particular piece of software ends up being unreliable, there's clearly been progress being made in resigning and hacking save files for PS4. It looks like it's just a matter of time until there's something reliable enough and cheap enough for all the cheaters to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab4h4r4k1 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Sly Ripper said: How will they fix it without invalidating EVERY savegame ever created before the update? I must say that I have no idea. But if it is possible to change the information of which account owns a savedata, maybe it is possible to detect other kind of information in it as well. PS4 kinds of make a log of the first time you played a game and your progress if you play it online, for instance. But this is me with very weak ideas. I know for certain that I will not risk any of my consoles just for a bunch of trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Ripper Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 14 hours ago, ab4h4r4k1 said: I must say that I have no idea. But if it is possible to change the information of which account owns a savedata, maybe it is possible to detect other kind of information in it as well. PS4 kinds of make a log of the first time you played a game and your progress if you play it online, for instance. But this is me with very weak ideas. I know for certain that I will not risk any of my consoles just for a bunch of trophies. I was just thinking, disabling the ability to copy saves to/from USB would save all this. But Sony have no balls. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elvick_ Posted April 6, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: I was just thinking, disabling the ability to copy saves to/from USB would save all this. But Sony have no balls. Are you honestly suggesting they should do that? You really want the only way to back up our save files to be PS+ could storage? Really? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameoncomrade Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 We would easily be able to spot it on PSNP and other trophy hunting sites, but it's sad to see that there are people who want to use this to get trophies... Just like with the PS3 games. Do it yourself. I will never understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Fly Spider-Guy Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: I was just thinking, disabling the ability to copy saves to/from USB would save all this. But Sony have no balls. Somehow, I think giving their customers the ability to make a copy of their save games is a lot better than protecting the precious trophies. I play a game on Xbox and it by default, for free, will make a cloud backup of my save EVERY time I play it. Sony on the other hand use their Plus cloud as an attraction, a lure, to paying for Plus. They clearly think there is a desire to have the ability to back up saves, blocking this feature from the millions of users they have to appease a few million at best hard core trophy hunters wouldn't be a show of balls, it would be insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Ripper Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just now, Super-Fly Spider-Guy said: Somehow, I think giving their customers the ability to make a copy of their save games is a lot better than protecting the precious trophies. I play a game on Xbox and it by default, for free, will make a cloud backup of my save EVERY time I play it. Sony on the other hand use their Plus cloud as an attraction, a lure, to paying for Plus. They clearly think there is a desire to have the ability to back up saves, blocking this feature from the millions of users they have to appease a few million at best hard core trophy hunters wouldn't be a show of balls, it would be insane. It's not just trophies though, as we've seen from PS3 it also affects online gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Fly Spider-Guy Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just now, Sly Ripper said: It's not just trophies though, as we've seen from PS3 it also affects online gaming. Fair call. And if nothing else, the saves being trusted to Sony's own cloud could at least go to ensuring their security and all. I was gonna add this to my initial post, but you already got me here, so I'll dump it here. They could always just make it that you can back your saves up, but when you bring them back you can't earn trophies if you're playing on a system other than the one they were earned on. Sure, it would suck if your PS4 dies, like mine did the other day (RIP Nov 29, 2013-the other day), but I don't know. I remember with GTA IV when I back and forth'd systems a bit it said something like "this save is from another console, trophies disabled, start a new game Dylan, etc" I don't know. All I do know, is I have 2 PS2 memory cards, just so I can have a back up of all my saves. I live in perpetual fear of my saves disappearing / people overwriting them cough cough Devon in grade 6 with my god damned PSP copy of Crash Bandicoot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Elvick_ said: Are you honestly suggesting they should do that? You really want the only way to back up our save files to be PS+ could storage? Really? Since Sly is talking about PS4, it's pretty valid? There aren't many PS4 players that wouldn't have PS4+ since MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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