MesopithecusUK Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think the rule in season 1 (and possibly season 2) was games competed in under an hour wouldn't be counted and people did the same thing in stretching games out. I can't remember this level of ill feeling over it to be honest. Everyone competing in the league has the option of playing strategically like this and it comes down to personal choice. Just looking through my backlog that's purely on my HD I have the entirety of Back to the Future, Jurassic Park, Trine 2, Sound Shapes (and others beside those) that I could quickly knock out against people...the option is there. It's all by the by though as my gaming schedule is pretty much set in stone, as it was through season 4. It's impossible to make everyone happy though, whatever Precision & the admin team pick as rules I'll accept and go along with, but I won't be altering my gaming on that basis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zajac9999 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) I must admit I'm inclined to agree with Freddie and others who would prefer 'stricter' rules imposed on the times as it is annoying if people just pull a super quick game at the end of a round in order to beat you and I've been on both ends of this being beaten by Hannah Montana one round and I've used things like Sound Shapes myself to win quickly. Some of the rules at the moment, specifically the 8 hour rule, are flawed and essentially pointless. You could change the rule to 50 hours and it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever as long as the game had a plat. I quite liked precisions suggestion of disallowing certain 'types' of games visual novels, disney titles etc maybe in conjunction with a top 50 time so if a visual novel has a top 50 time of 10 hours then it would still count. The main issue that I have with visual novels, and correct me if I'm wrong as this isn't personal experience just what I've heard, is that you would have to completely skip the majority of the text to actually achieve any of these quick times so you're not actually playing the game anyway, just answering questions on something you haven't seen presumably via the use of a trophy guide. I imagine this must be the case with whatever game shana played that could be completed in half an hour or whatever it was otherwise a game that genuinely take 30 mins to complete is hardly worth buying. Edit: Didn't mean to post so early... I know some people say that if an easy game is used against them once then it can't be used against someone else as well but their are so many easy games that could be played if someone was looking for them it's hardly worth saying because it's really easy to find another game, especially visual novels, to play against another opponent. Anyway that's just my opinion and I'm aware it's probably in the minority as not many people are as competitive as I am when it comes to things like this. Either way I'm gonna have to leave the league this season unfortunately anyway as I just don't have the time for gaming anymore to allow myself to be competitive without resorting to loads of easy, quick games which is something I don't want to do. So thanks to Precision, the rest of the admit and all the other competitors for making this league as fun as it is. Edited October 31, 2014 by zajac9999 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy_99 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I dont mean to stir things up but I've just taken a look at Shana's trophy log... All of those trophies were earned in a 20 hour period, where the biggest gap between trophies is 2 hours. Do you even rest bro?! Lol. That's either some uber dedication or you don't need to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zajac9999 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I dont mean to stir things up but I've just taken a look at Shana's trophy log... All of those trophies were earned in a 20 hour period, where the biggest gap between trophies is 2 hours. Do you even rest bro?! Lol. That's either some uber dedication or you don't need to sleep. I noticed that as well, but it's certainly possible to do. I remember having gaming sessions like that when I was younger, as a one off it's not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunCroCop Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I dont mean to stir things up but I've just taken a look at Shana's trophy log... All of those trophies were earned in a 20 hour period, where the biggest gap between trophies is 2 hours. Do you even rest bro?! Lol. That's either some uber dedication or you don't need to sleep. Sometimes people pull all-nighters. Even at my age, I still do it occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemmie Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 As for the breaks, personally, I didn't like them. I never did. I felt they gave unfair advantages. Sure, we may not have known who the next opponent was, but by the second break, when we had 3 opponents left, we knew who they were. Prepping accordingly for 3 people is a lot easier than prepping after the first break or at the beginning of the season. Not that I am one to complain seeing as how I was inactive most of the first 6 fixtures. But I also knew by the second break who my last 3 opponents would be, and thus it was easier to prep for them. And if you go back and look at my results in the last 3 fixtures compared to the first 6, that bears it out. So I'd vote for not having them. But, I am also sitting out this next season, so take what I say how you will. I see where you're coming from with this. By the second break, I knew who my remaining opponents were and planned out a platinum that allowed me to win two out of my last three fixtures and stay in the gold league. I wouldn't say this is unfair. It just adds a bit of strategy into the league. To compromise, I'd say a shorter break is best, but I feel we should definitely keep them. There is one thing i have been thinking about really, and it is only after this season and actually seeing the daily score that Kochiya-Shana put up in the CWC that made me even think about it, that plus a certain 9 games i played this month. Japanese Titled games. I've noticed how many of these games are simply complete-able to 100% with platinums in SO little time, and it's not even like there are only a few, there are hundreds of these games. They tend to have generous trophies (lots of golds and silvers), a platinum, and a lot of these can be done in 1-8 hours? Now i know not all Japanese Titled games abide by this rule, but from what i have seen over numerous accounts is that there are many more quick and easy ones than there are hard ones. Now don't get me wrong when i say "Japanese Titled" i am not referring to Japanese games like RPG's i mean literally games with the title written in Japanese. What do you guys think about this? a friend of mine recently decided to play some of these "Japanese titled" this month and smashed his monthly trophy earnings by over 300 trophies, this, bearing in mind his previous record was 600 already. Please feel free to add talk of this in future comments as opinions on this would be greatly appreciated another possible brand ban could include Disney Pixar games, which have the reputation of being short and sweet with tasty rewards. I feel like a list of banned games on the front page would be a great idea. I don't want the list to be long, but there are just some games that give so many points in so little time that I think they're unfair, some (not all) visual novels being examples. I think the best way to make this ban list would be for players to bring up games they deem unfair and in a day or two (giving time for everyone who wants to to respond) have a 24 hour vote whether to put each game on the ban list. I know a lot of people want all games to count, but I'm just giving out an option. The alternative would be to base the list on leader board completion times, but it seems that people aren't liking that idea either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wdjat Prinny Doods Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I dont mean to stir things up but I've just taken a look at Shana's trophy log... All of those trophies were earned in a 20 hour period, where the biggest gap between trophies is 2 hours. Do you even rest bro?! Lol. That's either some uber dedication or you don't need to sleep. Back in my LAN party days there was no such thing as sleep dood 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision-Playyy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 THL SEASON 4 RANKINGS Precision-Playy Kochiya-Shana HcG-_Clawz blueyoshi5 man_with_wdjat theshywaterguy XShadowYakuzaX HcG-_Terror X18JELLO18X ToxiKirby BraveNoobWorld pridefc83 dragnierkira jem12345 Havoc273 zR_DoWnLiNkZ Mah2c ganryu_pl sinnriel Mendant909 freddie1989 allenbird NIALLERMANBUZ x9zachattack5x BigApe101 zajac9999 nexus_x2007 Hemiak Krazy_99 xZoneHunter omar280792 cybershark91 VASORAT13 Jarethgeason NiTR0--X__ Grindcore12391 DJ-Silver RachP13 ShogunCroCop ReimiSaionji9742 Gate_Guard me3lingual KerplunkMB Chinigan- silverstag88 TheAkittaja TheLastSurvivorD Matthew_Banfield mary_d-9 faiz0r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganryu_pl Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Just wondering...how many of you have a spot on the top 50 fastest times? If not on the top 50, how close to these times you was? Many of the fastest time are made by "speedrunners" and I even can't imagine how anyone can finish particular game within particular time ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunCroCop Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Up one spot from last season. Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-Archon Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Sometimes people pull all-nighters. Even at my age, I still do it occasionally. Yeah I did that too during my fixture against Shana. It does pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision-Playyy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Just wondering...how many of you have a spot on the top 50 fastest times? If not on the top 50, how close to these times you was? Many of the fastest time are made by "speedrunners" and I even can't imagine how anyone can finish particular game within particular time ;-) i have top 3 fastest in fifa 15 (ps3), fifa 15 (vita) and fifa 14 (vita) and a top 10 in inferno pool, aswell as another top 50 in another fifa (13 vita) , not sure if i have any others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganryu_pl Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 i have top 3 fastest in fifa 15 (ps3), fifa 15 (vita) and fifa 14 (vita) and a top 10 in inferno pool, aswell as another top 50 in another fifa (13 vita) , not sure if i have any others Do you worked in these days? was at school etc? I believe not, and as for me with only one day off per week, it is reason why I'm never even close to the fastest times ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision-Playyy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Do you worked in these days? was at school etc? I believe not, and as for me with only one day off per week, it is reason why I'm never even close to the fastest times ;-) Yes i worked on the day i did inferno Pool and also worked during both Fifa 13 and 14, neither of the 15's though Now i have 25 posts. Can i join the league for season 5 now? Welcome To the league Gregory, your spot is now confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zajac9999 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Just wondering...how many of you have a spot on the top 50 fastest times? If not on the top 50, how close to these times you was? Many of the fastest time are made by "speedrunners" and I even can't imagine how anyone can finish particular game within particular time ;-) #22 Mamurukun Curse #22 Medieval Moves #5 the cube #5 3d dot game heroes (really #4 as one above is a hacker I'm pretty sure) #33 Tour de France 2013 #1 Aquapazza #46 Lone Survivor #20 guacamelee Within a couple of hours of the top 50 on several others including heavy fire, start the party: save the world, puss in boots (1 min off) , wonderbook: Book of Spells There's also probably a few others, these were just the ones I remembered being pretty close or top 50 as I checked through my list then, and yes I had a job or uni studies for all of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HcG Clawz Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Just wondering...how many of you have a spot on the top 50 fastest times? If not on the top 50, how close to these times you was? Many of the fastest time are made by "speedrunners" and I even can't imagine how anyone can finish particular game within particular time ;-) I got 4th place on Split/Second I got 1st place in Daylight EU and US And i got some others in there but those are my tops. i like to speedrun games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganryu_pl Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 #22 Mamurukun Curse #22 Medieval Moves #5 the cube #5 3d dot game heroes (really #4 as one above is a hacker I'm pretty sure) #33 Tour de France 2013 #1 Aquapazza #46 Lone Survivor #20 guacamelee Within a couple of hours of the top 50 on several others including heavy fire, start the party: save the world, puss in boots (1 min off) , wonderbook: Book of Spells There's also probably a few others, these were just the ones I remembered being pretty close or top 50 as I checked through my list then, and yes I had a job or uni studies for all of them. I didn't expect answer like this :D Congratulations :-) You must have high level skills. Now I know why so many games was prohibited ;-) bacause you made very good times ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie1989 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I feel like a list of banned games on the front page would be a great idea. I don't want the list to be long, but there are just some games that give so many points in so little time that I think they're unfair, some (not all) visual novels being examples. I think the best way to make this ban list would be for players to bring up games they deem unfair and in a day or two (giving time for everyone who wants to to respond) have a 24 hour vote whether to put each game on the ban list. I know a lot of people want all games to count, but I'm just giving out an option. The alternative would be to base the list on leader board completion times, but it seems that people aren't liking that idea either. This is a good idea but it seems like a hell of a lot of work whereas a general rule would be easier to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxi Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Briefly reading through some of the comments suggest that it's only a handful of games that are causing the problem, but the main issue for people who want slightly stricter rules (which I'm also in favour of having) seem to be the Visual Novels. Banning these games from the competition might not be a bad idea. Just a thought, not sure how many people in the league this would actually effect, so maybe not a popular decision. A shame to see you go zajac, looking at the previous season tables seems you had a pretty good run though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie1989 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Briefly reading through some of the comments suggest that it's only a handful of games that are causing the problem, but the main issue for people who want slightly stricter rules (which I'm also in favour of having) seem to be the Visual Novels. Banning these games from the competition might not be a bad idea. Just a thought, not sure how many people in the league this would actually effect, so maybe not a popular decision. A shame to see you go zajac, looking at the previous season tables seems you had a pretty good run though. I agree because if like someone said earlier people can flick through them without actually playing them to get them done fast then we wouldn't exactly be taking away a lot of enjoyment for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HcG Clawz Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I was actually thinking of buying some visual novels, but i will still play them wheter they count for the league or not. that wont change my mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pureproteinman Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Bring on season 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybershark91 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) I still fight for the same treatment of 100% and plat games. I'm fine with every decision, but both game types need the same rules. EDIT: And I think I don't have any fastest times ^^ I'm not the fastest gamer. I like to take my time with a game. Edited November 1, 2014 by cybershark91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemmie Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 This is a good idea but it seems like a hell of a lot of work whereas a general rule would be easier to follow. It wouldn't be hard to do. It's just that so many people seem to be against banning games that I think every game will be voted to stay (which I would have to accept since majority does rule in the end). At this point, I feel like any rule regarding completion times will either have a loophole like season 4 or be like season 3 where the admins are bombarded with questions about games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision-Playyy Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 So with the season having come to an end, the "Behind the scenes" work is well under way, season 5 League tables are well on there way to being ready for the new season and i'm currently toying around with the Season 5 forecast to try and have the league finish cleanly before Christmas. So without further ado, i wish to recap on the Season 4 awards and give info on Competitor changes and whatnot ahead of season 5:- CWC Champion - Kochiya-Shana Platinum League Champion - Precision-Playy Gold League Champion - Kochiya-Shana Silver League Champion - BraveNoobWorld Bronze League Champion - pridefc83 Manganese Champion - ToxiKirby And now onto the sad part, Retirements: Retirements: Mendant909 Hemiak Kochiya-Shana blueyoshi5 man_with_wdjat zajac9999 silverstag88 Chinigan- zR_DoWnLiNkZ ShogunCroCop mary_d-9 Force Retirements: Gate_Guard Grindcore12391 Matthew_Banfield faiz0r Admin Retirements: Mendant909 silverstag88 Let's move on to something more pleasing: New Entrants: Greenguy81 BlueFireReaper Gregorymany pureproteinman Now then, given the Mass retirement this season, you have all probably realised two things: Players are going to move up leagues that they perhaps didn't expect to. We only have 39 players at present. First things first, the Manganese League is going this season, leaving us with what will be 4 Leagues of 10 (There is a good chance that somebody will sign up when i advertise a vacany in the Title). So now, all that is left to is announce the current league drafts (based on there being no further drop outs before the start of S5): PLATINUM LEAGUE Precision-Playy HcG-_Clawz XShadowYakuzaX theshywaterguy Havoc273 HcG-_Terror dragnierkira X18JELLO18X jem12345 Mah2c GOLD LEAGUE xZoneHunter Krazy_99 BraveNoobWorld ganryu_pl freddie1989 cybershark91 nexus_x2007 pridefc83 allenbird sinnriel SILVER LEAGUE omar280792 me3lingual VASORAT13 Jarethgeason ToxiKirby NIALLERMANBUZ x9zachattack5x BigApe101 NiTR0--X_ RachP13 BRONZE LEAGUE DJ-Silver TheLastSurvivorD KerplunkMB ReimiSaionji9742 TheAkittaja123 Greenguy81 BlueFireReaper Gergorymany pureproteinman ?????? So there we have it guys! I hope you are all looking forward to S5, still got to get alot of work done before the start of the new season, but it's still looking likely that the season Will begin on November 4th, so look out for that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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