Xel Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Demos, remember when they were a thing? Regardless of the release of FFXV: Episode Duscae, the presence has pretty much lessen since last gen. Do you think developers don't benefit from them anymore? or is it that so they could avoid the risk of losing sales figures from initial impressions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra_Witcher Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 People nowadays pay for alphas, betas, and demos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Super-Fly Spider-Guy Posted July 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2015 I remember having to buy a subscription to the PlayStation 2 magazine for my demo discs in the day. Not sure if I'm nostalgic or annoyed. Good times. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smushpie Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 People nowadays pay for alphas, betas, and demos. sadly this is true, you just gotta give it to the dumb gamer audience to pay for such things; they set the precedence. They (gaming industry) already shifted their practice to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condemned09 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I miss playing ps2 demos those were good times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellcoreFire Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I think because now you can watch gameplay on Youtube and such. A lot of people, including me probably also don't like downloading demos because you can't delete them from your library. I guess developers know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowwindow7 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I thought they were killing demo's to the favor to force people to use the share play feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSoOoN-MHD Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Haha oh my god you people talking about the gaming industry shifting or whatever, does no one remember when PS2 demos costed money?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihiris- Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I remember those Jampack discs they used to sell during the PS1 and PS2 days for like $8 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDRAG-K Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Because you can put out pre rendered gameplay and trick people into buying it. If you actually let them play it before release, they may realize it's not as good as advertised. Imagine how many people would've bought Watch_Dogs had they played a demo beforehand. Instead, they bought all the hype and most ended up being disappointed. But the devs and publishers already got your money, so too bad. Watch_Dogs is just one example. There are plenty of others. YouTube is a good alternative to demos. But if you want actual real gameplay on YouTube, you have to wait until after the release date for a Let's Play. Because most times, the dev gameplay on YouTube is as scripted as the E3 gameplay. Some people would rather get the game day 1, than wait for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misthebestever Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 l wish they but lots of Demos their was one game l do not think l will like it was toukiden but l tray the demo and love the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Head Cthulhu Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 A lot of people, including me probably also don't like downloading demos because you can't delete them from your library. i hate this myself, so i created an alt account just for demos. that will avoid clogging up my library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZyLogic Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Interestingly enough, the majority of people that play demos are often steered away because of it, resulting in a loss of profit for the publisher. Therefore, there is a lack of demos for the PlayStation®4 platform unless it's a very popular title. Furthermore, there is also a trend within the game industry to release demos several months after it has been released. Destiny is a good example of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenpai Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSoOoN-MHD Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I don't remember from recent memory pre-rendered gameplay ever being a thing. Scripted? maybe. But pre-rendered? that hasn't happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSigmaX Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I remember last gen, almost every game that came out got a demo...I was waiting for a Lego Jurassic World demo to come out on the PS4, I'm getting it regardless when it drops in price, but I would have liked to mess around in a demo of it at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowStar83x Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) I liked demos. I think a big part of it is financial. Edited July 17, 2015 by ShadowStar83x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjasonj5 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Becouse they realized that demos werent profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Demos were great when I was poor. Now, for all the reasons that were in the video that jrdemr posted, they're not practical. To answer the OP: Do you think developers don't benefit from them anymore? or is it that so they could avoid the risk of losing sales figures from initial impressions? Yes. We, the gamers, showed them they're a bad decision. Becouse they realized that demos werent profitable. Before, they were a part of marketing. Marketing isn't profitable. It's the opposite of profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisy21 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) It's because they don't want you to know how bad or broken there game is , but seriously a poor demo could damage sales where a good demo would only slightly improve sales. I miss demos. If I'm not sure if I should get a game or not, a demo would make my decision a lot easier. I used to love getting a PlayStation magazine when I was younger. Would spend hours playing the same demos over & over. Plus the magazine had game news & release dates for games which was the main way of getting this info before the internet took off. Edited July 17, 2015 by chrisy21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanimalXIII Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Demos cost money, if you're a developer and you want a demo on a disc that comes with a magazine you have to pay for it to be on the demo disc, that excluding the extra cost of coding a section for a demo (although that shouldn't be an issue too much) and I doubt any of us know Sonys T&C about having demos up on the PS Store, but it wouldn't surprise me if it costs money.Demos can harm sales, not in the sense a game is bad; which of course if you play a bad demo you won't buy the game, but in a sense imagine if there were a Rocket League demo where is was a 3v3 exhibition match against bots, a fair few people would just be happy with that content and not feel the need to buy the full version. On the PS1 there was a hockey game which was on a demo disc it allowed two player, a friend and myself played that loads without having to buy the full game.All in all it comes down to cost as mentioned, games are generally costing more to develop now than they ever did, be it due to inflation; bigger dev teams etc.... but at the same time the base cost of a game has basically stayed the same price for just over a decade now. Game studios have to think where they can make money and save money. One saving is making demos.I noticed the comment about the gaming industry shifting their practice to make dumb gamers cough up their hard earned money without playing a demo. I'm not sure why but gamers as a whole seem to think they have some sort of consumer entitlement when buying games. There's very few instances in the world where you get to try a product before actually buying it; just because it's a game people shouldn't feel entitled to a demo before buying it. If you go to the cinema you don't get to watch 15 minutes of a film before deciding to pay for it. You don't get a bite of a burger before deciding to buy it. Especially in this age where you can get a good gauge on a game via the many reviews and videos out there. Edited July 17, 2015 by DanimalXIII 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKB1KE Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Demos are pointless in this day and age. At any point in time you can go watch LIVEstreams on Twitch of a game and figure out if it's for you or not. There is online reviews of the games too. Digital distribution set the platform for getting games to people easier, and you didn't need floppy discs or CD's anymore. Edited July 26, 2015 by DARKB1KE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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