skidmarkgn Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) It's not roughing the kicker after the play is dead, it's unnecessary roughness, Which should have been called. I honestly could not care less who's pissed, you can't really be mad at Seattle. It's the refs and the NFL front office. It's kind of funny, now that an East coast team got screwed by officiating there's a bunch of (media) talk about disciplinary actions for last nights crew and how unacceptable their debacle before the half was. Sure don't remember hearing anything about Hochuli's crew being punished after the Saints game though, it was all just "karma" for the Falcons game. Edited November 8, 2016 by skidmarkgn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmsleight Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Another what the f--k Seattle game in the books. Another week of I'm sure everyone being pissed about it (and I don't disagree). I guess everyone can take comfort in knowing that the Seahawks' woooooooooooooooooooorn out defense now gets 6 days rest before going to New England and getting destroyed by a Pats team coming off their bye. I don't understand the logic (or complete lack of) behind hating a team for a decision by the officials. I guess it is human nature. People get abused at work and take it out on the family, etc. Seriously, there are bad calls every week, but the only team I hear getting hated on is Seattle. Hmm, maybe it is their fault. But only on their games, and only when it hurts the other team.... Yep, that's it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidmarkgn Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) First off, player wives need to really think about staying the hell off twitter during a game. Carpenter's wife made him look bad and showed a complete lack of class with her bullshit rant about cutting off Sherman's dick. I hope Carpenter tells her how ridiculous she was and points aout how bad they both look now. Secondly, is there anyone who can specify what should have happened last night. The only thing that's certain was Sherman being offsides. Beyond that, video and photo evidence clearly shows he was going for the ball. There's even a perfect still photo of him diving with his hand clearly on the ball before he and the kicker collided. From what I understand, if the player makes contact with the ball then collides with the Kicker then there's no foul? Or can he not contact the kicker at all? I tried ti find the picture they showed on the news and couldn't but watch any video and Sherman's going for the ball, not Carpenter's legs. Edited November 9, 2016 by skidmarkgn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acasser Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Secondly, is there anyone who can specify what should have happened last night. The only thing that's certain was Sherman being offsides. The first problem is that there's a fair amount of grey area/interpretation that can go into the rule. Like a lot of other NFL rules, there's room for officials to make "judgement" calls, so there's no absolute "what should have happened". There's no question that Richard Sherman was offsides. There's probably not much argument that he was "unabated to the Kicker" the way plays are whistled dead when a defensive player jumps offsides and is "unabated to the Quarterback" as a way of protecting the passer. And if that's the baseline you choose to take, there's a very strong argument to be made that Richard Sherman should have been hit with Roughing the Kicker the same way he'd have been penalized for Unnecessary Roughness/Roughing the Passer had Dan Carpenter been a Quarterback. And if that's the direction you choose to go, the referee then has the authority to eject Richard Sherman on the spot because the Roughing the Kicker rules stipulate ejection falls under the referee's discretion at that spot. .... I'll admit I wasn't paying full attention to the play, and I wasn't sitting at a television set where I could rewind the "live DVR" to listen to the play in live-action. If the whistles actually blew when Sherman jumped, he should have been tossed under the rules and that should have been the end of that. But the referees fucked this one up. Eight ways to Sunday. As we've come to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidmarkgn Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 The first problem is that there's a fair amount of grey area/interpretation that can go into the rule. Like a lot of other NFL rules, there's room for officials to make "judgement" calls, so there's no absolute "what should have happened". There's no question that Richard Sherman was offsides. There's probably not much argument that he was "unabated to the Kicker" the way plays are whistled dead when a defensive player jumps offsides and is "unabated to the Quarterback" as a way of protecting the passer. And if that's the baseline you choose to take, there's a very strong argument to be made that Richard Sherman should have been hit with Roughing the Kicker the same way he'd have been penalized for Unnecessary Roughness/Roughing the Passer had Dan Carpenter been a Quarterback. And if that's the direction you choose to go, the referee then has the authority to eject Richard Sherman on the spot because the Roughing the Kicker rules stipulate ejection falls under the referee's discretion at that spot. .... I'll admit I wasn't paying full attention to the play, and I wasn't sitting at a television set where I could rewind the "live DVR" to listen to the play in live-action. If the whistles actually blew when Sherman jumped, he should have been tossed under the rules and that should have been the end of that. But the referees fucked this one up. Eight ways to Sunday. As we've come to expect. As far as I can tell no whistles blew until after contact was made and Carpenter was on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 so the vote in San Diego didn't go well http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18005012/san-diego-chargers-stadium-vote-fails-opens-door-move-los-angeles i really hope they get something done, so they can stay in San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 My Week 10 NFL Tips Ravens over Browns Falcons over Eagles Bucs over Bears Broncos over Saints Packers over Titans Chiefs over Panthers Jets over Rams Redskins over Vikings Texans over Jags Chargers over Dolphins My Cowboys over Steelers Cardinals over 49ers Patriots over Seahawks Giants over Bengals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmsleight Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 so the vote in San Diego didn't go well http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18005012/san-diego-chargers-stadium-vote-fails-opens-door-move-los-angeles i really hope they get something done, so they can stay in San Diego I want them to stay too, but I have no love for a multibillion $ industry raping its base to buttress its profits. Make the league pay for its own assets. If they threaten to walk, let them walk! Quit feeding the villainous Dragon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 SO the Browns drop to 0-10, but what are they doing benching a rookie qb for a 37yr old one in the 2nd half??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstarmaste1r Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 What a time to be alive for Collins stay to a 0-10 team. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 So some Cleveland Browns fans are even planning a parade for going 0-16, even have filed the paperwork http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/some-browns-fans-are-planning-a-cleveland-parade-for-a-perfect-0-16-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidmarkgn Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 What's going on with Green Bay? the game's not on TV in my area but the scroll at the bottom is saying 21-0 Titans and Rodgers only has 1 completion so far? Ouch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar_Of_Battle Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Now I'm not one of the fans who is into stats and knowing pretty much all the players on every team... but wtf is going on with green bay right now that they are losing to the titans like this? I can't watch the game but I didn't expect such a large gap in just Q1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidmarkgn Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Oi, the Falcons just got a gift handed to them by, once again, baffling officiating. Not calling the PI was one thing but blatantly ignoring the helmet to helmet hit 2 plays later when "player safety" is so important... unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar_Of_Battle Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I can't believe the ending to the Broncos/Saints game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I can't believe the ending to the Broncos/Saints game. that was crazy, one of the worst ways to lose a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmsleight Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 that was crazy, one of the worst ways to lose a game Wow! I don't know what to say... Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar_Of_Battle Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 that was crazy, one of the worst ways to lose a game The worst part is the lack of a camera angle on that game changing play. If there was just a shot of the play from the saints' sideline it would have been more definitive. As it stands you can't just reverse a play on a maybe. It's one of those rare times a referee didn't whistle the play dead either. I'm still in complete and utter disbelief and denial about the Packers losing to the Titans like that. Have the Titans ever even seen a score that high before? Let alone against a team that usually does well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 So whats wrong with Green Bay, getting spanked by Titans. Carolina blowing a 14point lead, season done imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Nice to see my titans actually win a game with a dominating lead for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidmarkgn Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wonder if Tomlin will rethink his obsession with 2 point conversions after this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 The worst part is the lack of a camera angle on that game changing play. If there was just a shot of the play from the saints' sideline it would have been more definitive. As it stands you can't just reverse a play on a maybe. It's one of those rare times a referee didn't whistle the play dead either. I'm still in complete and utter disbelief and denial about the Packers losing to the Titans like that. Have the Titans ever even seen a score that high before? Let alone against a team that usually does well? They've lost to the packers in the past 55-0 at lambeau and they lost to the patriots a few years back 63-0. The last time they scored 47 points in a game was in 09 against the rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratchet2425 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 What a way for the Dolphins to finish out on the road. I was thinking that all the penalties they've been committing would catch up to them (I think San Diego had 7 or so first downs from penalties), but nice to see Kiko and Maxwell making plays to seal the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zio_Sam87 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Well another loss and drop to 1-8, but almost this time was a fun game to watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar_Of_Battle Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 They've lost to the packers in the past 55-0 at lambeau and they lost to the patriots a few years back 63-0. The last time they scored 47 points in a game was in 09 against the rams I wish I could remember stuff like that. Cowboys/Steelers This game has me in even more disbelief than I thought was imaginable today. I know the Steelers screwed themselves with that 0-4 2 point conversions but that last TD for the Cowboys...ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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