machaesthetic Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I completed Sine Mora 100% (can check in game leaderboards, I'm around 25 or so, should be at 4, but the in game leaderboard is very buggy with updating) and it was not flagged for a good while, but just recently I noticed it has a red background and I was removed from the leaderboard for the game. It seems someone ignorant to the game flagged it simply because my 100% time was 11 minutes. Obviously it took much longer than this in ingame time, but the way the trophies work is that 10/12 trophies are tied to in game ranks, and you must fulfil the rank prior to it before the next one will unlock. The first rank requires you to use a sub weapon 5 times, if you never do this, you will never unlock the first rank or any subsequent ranks (you can actually boost subweapon kills through one of the challenges where you start with infinite subweapon, without ever actually "using" it), the other two trophies are destroying everything in prologue without getting hit and completing all challenges. So I fulfilled all possible requirements in the game except using subweapon. I then completed challenge 15, which started the 100% timer, at that point I just got the prologue trophy and then quickly grinded out my subweapon kills and all the ranks stacked (it was a two tiered stack, there was a one or two minute gap when getting the major rank because that required additional subweapon kills), which is how I was able to achieve such a fast time. Anyways, not really sure where to put this. If it doesn't belong in the forums, I apologize and it would be great if someone could point me in the right direction. I think it's a little bit ridiculous that the site promotes fast completion times but then flags you for having that. Thanks for the help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYuriG Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 It seems someone ignorant to the game flagged it simply because You are jumping the gun too quickly. The system autoflags any game (not whitelisted) done in less that a certain ammount of time. I think it's 15 minutes for 100% and 1 hour for platinums? It might not be your case, but worth a heads up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuelito Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I doubt you can get this trophies in 11minutes. I mean most are ultra rare for a reason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieboy Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 You are jumping the gun too quickly. The system autoflags any game (not whitelisted) done in less that a certain ammount of time. I think it's 15 minutes for 100% and 1 hour for platinums? It might not be your case, but worth a heads up. It auto-flags under 5 minutes for non-platinum games & under 25 minutes for games with a platinum (except whitelisted games). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machaesthetic Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 It wasn't autoflagged because it had been fine for months. People really shouldn't flag games that they've never played/100%ed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesk8vaincra Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 His explanation makes sens, or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Tron Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Contact a mod via a PM and explain your situation. Trust me, people who make these kinds of threads that are open publicly for everyone to see just become infamous and people will try to find even more suspicious trophies on your profile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machaesthetic Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Contact a mod via a PM and explain your situation. Trust me, people who make these kinds of threads that are open publicly for everyone to see just become infamous and people will try to find even more suspicious trophies on your profile. How do I PM a mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Ripper Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The person that reported you did 100% the game. Anyone that makes a post not regarding the game/how long it takes etc will be warned. How did you do it in 11 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crespelio-X12 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 How do I PM a mod Simply press their coloured name and press the option send me a message then you just send it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machaesthetic Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 The person that reported you did 100% the game. Anyone that makes a post not regarding the game/how long it takes etc will be warned. How did you do it in 11 minutes? I explained it plainly in OP, did you have a question about any of it? tbh you can just check the leaderboard, CFW hackers wouldn't be on the leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesk8vaincra Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) There are two thinks that needs to be revealed to determinate if this was hacked or not: - Can you fullfil promotion requirements before they appears (completing captain requirements before you acquired the "first lieutenant" trophy for example) - Can you actually deploy 200 sub weapon and kill 1500 ennemies with it in less than 11 minutes (because those are required for captain and major general trophies) The first one looks like it could be trueFor the second one, i did not play the game enough to tell if it is doable or not... Stealthmonkey, could you tell us in which level you managed to deploy that much subweapon and kill that much ennemis in such a small amount of time? Edited September 10, 2015 by lesk8vaincra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machaesthetic Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) There are two thinks that needs to be revealed to determinate if this was hacked or not: - Can you fullfil promotion requirements before they appears (completing captain requirements before you acquired the "first lieutenant" trophy for example) - Can you actually deploy 200 sub weapon and kill 1500 ennemies with it in less than 11 minutes (because those are required for captain and major general trophies) The first one looks like it could be true For the second one, i did not play the game enough to tell if it is doable or not... YesIn terms of getting the kills you can get those without actually deploying the weapon because one of the challenges (been a while since i played, can't remember which one) has you going through the factory and you start with two gemini drones. Those count as kills, but since they are default and never activated, do not count as activations. The game could be done in 6-7 minutes actually but I choked up like an idiot on the prologue trophy (messed up like 3 times lol) Since you can get kills through the challenge, for using subs, all you have to do is hit circle 5 times and restart. Edited September 10, 2015 by StealthMonkey43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuka Langley Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 OP, could you take a photo of your screen with save data time/completion with some proof of it being yourself on it? Personally I believe your story to an extent, but I - and I believe there are some others - would like to see a bit of physical evidence to prove you legitimately spent the time on the game along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAFoxAnymore Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I think what's making it look so suspicious are the rarities of the trophies. Extremely rare for something that you seem to claim is simple... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSigmaX Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I think what's making it look so suspicious are the rarities of the trophies. Extremely rare for something that you seem to claim is simple... I agree. I always read Sin Mora being hard as nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesopithecusUK Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The guides both here and PST indicate this being an 80-100 hour game so I understand why someone has been suspicious enough to flag it. Maybe Sly could ask the guide author here their thoughts on whether this is possible: https://psnprofiles.com/guide/1794-Sine-Mora-Trophy-Guide It certainly wouldn't do any harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzarro Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Sine mora is a heavy grind and if you want to MLG it, you have to do it under 24 hours since theres one requirement to play in-game for 24 hours. Only way you kan prove your innocence is by taking a pic of your stats or recording a 1CC arcade run, which, if you did it, will be a breeze to redo it. (100% Sine mora requires more than 5 1CC's so yeah) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 If you can avoid unlocking trophies then there's no real reason to suspect it's cheated. Everything they've said checks out and is completely understandable for someone trying to get on the fastest times leaderboard. The fastest times on most games probably had some degree of preparation like this. Also, I don't believe they ever said it was simple. They had to complete the game just like anyone else, only die during the prologue and not complete challenge 15 until everything else was done. The trophies unlocked within 11 minutes of each other, but the total gameplay could have exceeded dozens of hours. The person who flagged it probably just didn't consider someone would or could do something like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post machaesthetic Posted September 11, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2015 I never said the game was easy, simple, or short. I specifically planned it out to get the fastest time. My overall playtime right now is 35 hrs on my main account (about 6-8 of those hours were after I 100%ed it just playing through for score/fun), I prepared on an alt account for about 40 hours. Overall time spent was about 70 hrs, but preparing it specifically like this is slightly more difficult because it requires you to never use sub (but is very easily doable because you can still use reflect). I also have other difficult trophies on my page, this isn't my first difficult game. And no, it doesn't require 5 1CCs, it requires one 1CC, one primary only run (the hardest by far, I've actually done primary only on two accounts, my alt and my main), and then a playthrough with each pilot. Really is irritating to have people who have not the slightest clue of what this game entails try to tell me I'm lying. The in game leaderboard alone shows that this is legitimate. People who hack trophies can't just hack the in game leaderboard, every score on the leaderboard is legitimate, you can check them yourselves. Anyways, just to remove any doubt, here is a picture of the trophy tiles (red shows completion), Esteem level 10 requirements page, and then the leaderboard. http://imgur.com/a/DolZM 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Hyper Balls Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) holy shit you can 100% the game 11 minutes in one playthrough, am I doing something wrong this game is one hell of a challenge. so what your saying is you beat it on another account then uploaded your save or something. it wouldn't be a leaderboard issue, when you raise your rank the trophy pops, right Edited September 11, 2015 by Titan Balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAFoxAnymore Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 holy shit you can 100% the game 11 minutes in one playthrough, am I doing something wrong this game is one hell of a challenge. so what your saying is you beat it on another account then uploaded your save or something He never said that...he's saying he set up his trophies in a way that they'd all pop within a short timeframe. It says 11 minutes but in real time it'll have taken hours and hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastSurvivorD Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) holy shit you can 100% the game 11 minutes in one playthrough, am I doing something wrong this game is one hell of a challenge. so what your saying is you beat it on another account then uploaded your save or something He planned this. He did it on two other accounts, then simply played on his main one, making sure to avoid getting trophies until he was ready to pop the rank trophies.EDIT: ninja'd Edited September 11, 2015 by TheLastSurvivorD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Hyper Balls Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieboy Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) holy shit you can 100% the game 11 minutes in one playthrough, am I doing something wrong this game is one hell of a challenge. so what your saying is you beat it on another account then uploaded your save or something. it wouldn't be a leaderboard issue, when you raise your rank the trophy pops, right No. He's saying you can 100% the trophies in 11 minutes. The game takes a lot longer. This quote (although not from the OP) sums it up: The trophies unlocked within 11 minutes of each other, but the total gameplay could have exceeded dozens of hours. EDIT: Looks like 2 other people ninja'd me Edited September 11, 2015 by Stevieboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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