the_daddy2009 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Can somebody confirm this? I'm looking to get a PS4 in the next few weeks and currently I use my PS3 to listen to mp3 playlists and watch downloaded films and tv shows etc.. If the PS4 in fact does not play the above files then I'll have to hold on to my PS3 for those reasons alone which is disappointing as I was hoping to sell that console as help for funding for the PS4. I am shocked and stunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimydawg___ Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Can somebody confirm this? I'm looking to get a PS4 in the next few weeks and currently I use my PS3 to listen to mp3 playlists and watch downloaded films and tv shows etc.. If the PS4 in fact does not play the above files then I'll have to hold on to my PS3 for those reasons alone which is disappointing as I was hoping to sell that console as help for funding for the PS4. I am shocked and stunned. Yes, it's confirmed. However, there will be a patch. MP3 is almost 20 years old though. So I can understand why it's not on a PS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_daddy2009 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 So how do I view my downloaded films and tv shows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulTorment Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Yes, it's confirmed. However, there will be a patch. MP3 is almost 20 years old though. So I can understand why it's not on a PS4. What audio file extensions does it support then? Flac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivan000 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) MP3 is almost 20 years old though. So I can understand why it's not on a PS4.AAC is almost as old. Following this logic is should support opus... oh, yeah. So how do I view my downloaded films and tv shows? using something other than PS4... for now. Edited May 26, 2014 by vivan000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuzagi_PT Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Does the ps4 read subtitles ? Because ps3 does not. Edited May 26, 2014 by BUwUNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivan000 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Yeap, it doesn't play video but read subtitles... and shows them... on the blank screen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxleonardo97xX Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Any official Blue-Ray or DVD can be played on the ps4, unless you're talking about ''pirates'', that's not allowed here ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_daddy2009 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Thanks for the info guys, looks like I'll be keeping my PS3 after all, not such a bad thing I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Any official Blue-Ray or DVD can be played on the ps4, unless you're talking about ''pirates'', that's not allowed here ..... You know that thing called video camera right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 You cannot play any music/video unless its streamed by an app e.g. netflix or for music the only available option is music unlimited. Complete joke specially when the ps3 has media server and you could also connect external hdds, its almost like they went backwards from the ps3 to ps4 in that aspect at least. I heard they are doing a mp3 support patch which I assume it would read discs but I doubt it would allow you to copy it to your hdd, which then just makes it a useless feature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 So how do I view my downloaded films and tv shows? I'm assuming that that is content you acquired legally...? But yeah, it is outrageous that the PS4 doesn't play media files. There's no reason you couldn't let people listen to their music and let them access Music Unlimited if they wanted to. Trying to force the latter one down my throat by blocking my access to the former just turns me off Music Unlimited entirely, so is a bit of an own goal for Sony where I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsplatter Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 You cannot play any music/video unless its streamed by an app e.g. netflix or for music the only available option is music unlimited. Complete joke specially when the ps3 has media server and you could also connect external hdds, its almost like they went backwards from the ps3 to ps4 in that aspect at least. I heard they are doing a mp3 support patch which I assume it would read discs but I doubt it would allow you to copy it to your hdd, which then just makes it a useless feature. Wouldn't matter since PS4 can't do CD's at all. It's probably more of hooking up your iPod and either A do a transfer (not a copy) or B you keep it hooked up while the system plays the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDRAG-K Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Wait, so does it allow you to watch movies you bought from PSN store? It would be weird if it didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't matter since PS4 can't do CD's at all. It's probably more of hooking up your iPod and either A do a transfer (not a copy) or B you keep it hooked up while the system plays the music. ya thats what i meant by mp3 support was cd support, assuming music cds still consist of mp3s...i wouldnt know. Wait, so does it allow you to watch movies you bought from PSN store? It would be weird if it didn't. yes it uses sonys video unlimited. Edited May 27, 2014 by Ellie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful84 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Yes, it's confirmed. However, there will be a patch. MP3 is almost 20 years old though. So I can understand why it's not on a PS4. Really? You say that as if its a 8 track or cassette tape. Its still a widely used file format for music. The simple answer is, its because Sony originally wanted people to only be able to play music through their music service. Being able to upload and play your own stuff on their platform became a so called "conflict of interest" and they saw an opportunity to make more money. In other words, they are acting like a bunch of greedy bastards that got called out on it and now they are planning to retract this decision with a patch. People who constantly defend all of these new restrictions on the next gen consoles as being "technologically" different in nature are CLEARLY in denial about how doing such things benefits the console developers at the expense of the customer. Edited May 27, 2014 by merciful84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimydawg___ Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Really? You say that as if its a 8 track or cassette tape. Its still a widely used file format for music. The simple answer is, its because Sony originally wanted people to only be able to play music through their music service. Being able to upload and play your own stuff on their platform became a so called "conflict of interest" and they saw an opportunity to make more money. In other words, they are acting like a bunch of greedy bastards that got called out on it and now they are planning to retract this decision with a patch. People who constantly defend all of these new restrictions on the next gen consoles as being "technologically" different in nature are CLEARLY in denial about how doing such things benefits the console developers at the expense of the customer. Who says I'm defending anything You folks clearly don't understand economics, but it's OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful84 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Who says I'm defending anything You folks clearly don't understand economics, but it's OK. I wasn't referring to anyone specific with those highlighted statements but it did seem like you were devaluing a widely used file format in defense of Sony. And exactly what don't I understand about economics? How does limiting certain forms of entertainment on new hardware (when said limitation did not exist on legacy hardware) to just services provided by said hardware developer economically make sense for anyone other than them? Edited May 27, 2014 by merciful84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimydawg___ Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) I wasn't referring to anyone specific with those highlighted statements but it did seem like you were devaluing a widely used file format in defense of Sony. And exactly what don't I understand about economics? How does limiting certain forms of entertainment on new hardware (when said limitation did not exist on legacy hardware) to just services provided by said hardware developer economically make sense for anyone other than them? Look at what happened with Sony when they released the original PS3 (60 GB model). They suffered financially because of it. They couldn't the all-in-one entertainment system like that again or they'd suffer the same fate, although it probably wouldn't have been as bad because of Xbone's original plans. They were inevitably going to disappoint folks with feature like no backward compatibly and stuff like that, but that costs money. Edited May 27, 2014 by grimydawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulTorment Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Does the console not support ANY video file extensions, and ANY audio file extensions? What works and what doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful84 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Look at what happened with Sony when they released the original PS3 (60 GB model). They suffered financially because of it. They couldn't the all-in-one entertainment system like that again or they'd suffer the same fate, although it probably wouldn't have been as bad because of Xbone's original plans. They were inevitably going to disappoint folks with feature like no backward compatibly and stuff like that, but that costs money. Right because they undersold the brand new Blu-Ray technology that was easily worth $800 at the time for $600. That has nothing to do with MP3s or backwards compatibility. Again, the economics only benefits them...forcing people to pay to play music, videos, and legacy software as a service is just ridiculous. Especially in the digital age we live in. If you're a PC gamer, you don't have to worry about any of this! The purpose for selling media in its raw digital form was supposed to lower the purchase cost of the entertainment medium and give it unlimited lifespan. Instead, we now have companies like Sony who make these digital forms of entertainment even more restrictive than the physical media they claim to be moving away from. Companies like Sony can pretty much get a way with murder because they can sell folks like you anything that sounds plausible and they won't be questioned or called out for giving us all less. Edited May 27, 2014 by merciful84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmill97 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I was hoping to get a few MP3's on my PS4 when I get one... Oh well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimydawg___ Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Right because they undersold the brand new Blu-Ray technology that was easily worth $800 at the time for $600. That has nothing to do with MP3s or backwards compatibility. Again, the economics only benefits them...forcing people to pay to play music, videos, and legacy software is just ridiculous. Especially in the digital age we live in. If you're a PC gamer, you don't have to worry about any of this! The purpose for selling media in its raw digital form was suppose low the purchase cost and give it unlimited lifespan. Instead, we now have companies like Sony who make these digital forms of entertainment even more restrictive than the physical media they claim to be moving away from. Companies like Sony can pretty much get a way with murder because they can sell folks like you anything that sounds plausible and they won't be questioned or called out for giving us all less. It's supposed to benefit them That's fine with me. I didn't buy my PS4 to watch downloaded movies or listen to music. I bought so I can kill my family in games like Madden globally and get dragged/forced to watch TV series with my misses on Netflix. The PS4 suits me for my personal preferences. Edited May 27, 2014 by grimydawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful84 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) It's supposed to That's fine with me. I didn't buy my PS4 to watch downloaded movies or listen to music. I bought so I can kill my family in games like Madden globally and get dragged/forced to watch TV series with my misses on Netflix. The PS4 suits me for my personal preferences. That's you...1 in MILLIONS. Several other customers did buy a PS3 to listen to THEIR music on, watch THEIR videos on, and continue to enjoy...wait for it...THEIR legacy library of games on. So its only fair for those same people to expect at minimum the same on the PS4 and then more! But what Sony has done, it's given its customers less than it did last generation and hardly much noteworthy moving forward (besides flasher visuals). You raise a good point: If the PS4 was not made for these customers in mind then just who was it designed for? Edited May 27, 2014 by merciful84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willstown Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 The media player / DNLA/UPNP streaming was basically dropped for PS4, they've suggested in future patch will be implementing it. IRC it was patched in later on the PS3 as well. In the meantime I moved my PS3 upstairs and spent £50 on a raspeberry pi to run as a media server so not a big deal for me. It's a great solution for streaming from a home NAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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