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59 minutes ago, SoberNSane said:

From my perspective - I wouldn't buy W2 if it has an insanely difficult trophy just because I KNOW I can't do it (and I don't need to be forced into it - I know me). But I will certainly leave the respect for those of you who want to and can. All Hail, seriously - thats your thing. I don't want a trophy for something thats above my pay grade. Really. I wouldn't even try to steal your glory for that. But please try not to be irked over those with "lower" profiles and lesser ambitions. Let the truth speak for itself. These days trophy hunters per say don't have to be skilled because trophies are handed out easily for anyone who wants them. This theme of you guys not being able to accept the way gaming in fact IS these days seems to spark insecurity in new style gamers. Personally, I'm over it because you guys are pretty vocal and I've decided its you, not me. :giggle:

 

I knew right from the start that Wolfenstein 2 wasn’t going to be for everyone. But I was going to buy it regardless of how easy or difficult it’s trophy list would be because I’m a longtime fan of that franchise. 

 

I’ve seen plenty of people give up on the Mein Leben, but that isn’t going to deter me from playing the game myself, or at the least give it a go. 

 

I don’t know. I found myself extremely bored playing those games that just hand out trophies so easily. Recently I’ve been playing The Witcher 3 and it’s probably my favorite RPG in a very long time. It’s trophy list isn’t all that taxing, but it’s a pretty time consuming game and that alone is enough to get some people not to play through it. 

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To me, I've kinda had the same situation that you did. Gaming got stale for me unless a game was worth playing for like story, fun factor, and the trophies mixed together at once unless there was a plat I wanted bad enough, then I tried going for it. If I got it, then I was happy with it and was added to my collection.

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2 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

You put yourself at risk by always going for 100 percent completion. Eventually you will come across a game that is beyond your skill level, or you jumped in too late to get all the online trophies in time. 

 

I stopped going for the “shit” games simply because I wasn’t enjoying them. Anyone can get the Slyde platinum, anyone can get the platinum in 36 Fragments of Midnight if they do much as put in a few hours time. I get more satisfaction out of being one in a few. 

 

 

Yes and no. 

 

I’ve been gaming since the early 1990s, far longer than when trophies existed. In recent years I’ve taken up trophy hunting because I enjoy it and it satisfies me, even if the game I’m playing is challenging. 

 

If you’re judging people based on how many easy/difficult games they’ve completed, that’s really only showing one side of a player. Someone who has done multiple stacks of The Walking Dead doesn’t necessarily mean they did them exclusively for the trophies, they might have really enjoyed the game. That logic can apply to a trophy hunter who finished all three stacks of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. 

 

I run my mouth more than others too. But that’s just who I am. 

 

 

I grew up in the 1990s and early 2000s so I understand completely where you are coming from. 

 

Point and click games have been almost entirely ruined by the use of walkthroughs and trophy guides. Any idiot with half a brain can earn the platinum in a point and click game like Deponia. 

 

Back in in the day we had to rely on written manuals and our instincts to bypass a difficult puzzle. I got stuck on some of LucasArts games for hours until I finally stumbled on something by just doing it. I don’t see that anymore, because literally anyone can just look up a guide on their smartphone or whatever electronic device they have and just earn the trophies in quick succession. 

 

The trophies themselves have also been made a lot easier. After looking at several games from 2007 - 2010 I can definitely tell you had to work your ass off to earn the platinum. The 10,000 kills trophy in Resistance 2. The Valor Grand Cross trophy in Killzone 2. Beating all the challenges in Vanquish. Most of what I’ve seen this generation hasn’t had anything like those apart from some indie games. 

 

Going for that 100 percent in something like Dishonored is an accomplishment to me. 

 

I understand that not everyone likes hard games and that’s completely fine. You play what you enjoy. But it always tick me off whenever I have to hear people bitching that they won’t buy a game like Wolfenstein 2 because it has the Mein Leben trophy. It’s almost if people just want trophies and platinums handed to them in a silver platter. 

 

 

Super Mario 64 is one of my favorite childhood games of all time. Going for some of those stars was a nice challenge, as was collecting 100 coins for a star because some of those worlds had very tricky coin placement. 

 

I like to complete the games I place on my profile. I’m a bit of a completionist and I have OCD, which I was diagnosed with some years ago. 

 

I encourage everyone to play what they enjoy, but it irks me that I sometimes feel that those with very low completion percents aren’t really trophy hunters. That’s just my opinion, so don’t take that the wrong way.

None taken at all. I understand the tidiness of a game list. I used to create new profiles on Xbox 360 just because of this. Just don’t beat yourself up over it. When people look at your list, sure they will see some low percent games, but they will also see those high ones as well. Those games will be the ones that define you. They’ll get a rough idea of your genre, publisher and style. What you liked, as well as what you didn’t like.

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I am still finding this thread to be a very interesting read. Lots of replies and I appreciate all of the different views on my personal situation, as well as the other topics that have come up during this discussion.

 

@Spaz You would think that by now I'd know what I like and what I do not, however, it's not that straight forward. I can tell you what some of my favourite games from my childhood are; Altered Beast, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Metal Slug, DOOM, Mario 64, Lylat Wars (Star Fox 64 in the UK), Zelda, Resident Evil, Tony Hawk Pro Skater, so on and so forth...

 

As I got older, I then got heavily invested in multiplayer with the Call of Duty games; from Modern Warfare right through to Black Ops 3, the FIFA games and the odd Battlefield too. 

 

Like I stated in my Original Post; only when multiplayer grew stale to me, did I start to venture back into single player games and Trophies/Achievements were something to aim for. Unfortunately I got wrapped up in racking up numbers and it's only recently that I'm beginning to find my stride with what I enjoy these days and my current profile does not reflect that at all. The journey, maybe. But where I am today, no.

 

Even you yourself stated in an earlier post, that you only stopped buying up shit games last year because you realised that you didn't enjoy them. So all though our journeys have been different, we both ended up with the same conclusion, give or a take. These quick completions don't offer much in sense of achievement, and are not very rewarding outside of just gaining another 100% or Platinum Trophy.

 

Right now I know that I really enjoy collecting all of a games Trophies, I enjoy getting the Platinum and if the game has DLC, I will shoot for 100%... But I now care more about the games, more so than when I started hunting just over a year ago. I find that I just really enjoy completing games fully, it just so happens that the Trophies are a part of that process and actually give me a sense of direction during my completion. It's less about total Platinum count and more about playing and completing the games that I really love. Which again brings me back to why I made this thread in the first place; my profile doesn't showcase the games that I love, and that is something I want to change. Whether I do it on this profile or whether I start over, is something I still haven't figured out yet.

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Shit games on your profile don't reflect you as a gamer? Disagree, they absolutely do. You spent time and money on playing them, regardless on how easy they were. It's also nothing to be ashamed about. Lately I try to follow my whims when deciding on the games I want to play. Sometimes I dream about a game I haven't played in ages and start it the next day. I have the list order on PSNP set to alphabetical, I find that much more pleasing and a lot less forcing me to play or look at unfinished games. Plus it sets my OCD at ease to see the games in a nice, logical order and the franchises neatly below each other.

 

This is mostly a response to pleople in this thread who act like EZPZ games on their list don't represent them. They do.

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3 hours ago, SoberNSane said:

And its not just a difficult trophy in the game - it speaks to the whole tone. People don't necessarily turn down a game for one hard trophy. Although some of you guys think that and so you think we're missing out on a great game because of a few unreachable trophies. Not so. I don't like being in what I consider to be an overwhelming atmosphere even if I can actually get the plat. Personal preference to be respected just like yours.

 

Atmosphere because of the content or the kind of atmosphere in a game like Destiny? 

 

I don’t like the Call of Duty/Battlefield games because they aren’t my style. But they also breed a multiplayer culture that someone feels superior because they have a higher kill/death ratio than someone else. 

 

Multiplayer games like SMITE and Paladins I have no interest for. To an extent the atmosphere in such games and Overwatch I can’t stand sometimes, because there are a lot of idiots on the internet. 

 

I was brave enough to put Super Meat Boy on my list, a game less than 1 percent of all players will even try to go for the platinum. I’ll get there eventually, just haven’t focused much on it lately. 

 

1 hour ago, Adamantium said:

~snip~

 

When I started gaming virtually every game was a trial and error experience. Altered Beast was a game I struggled in, but I eventually beat all the levels. Later on I moved on to Super Mario 64, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye 007. While overall easier, they all presented to be somewhat of a challenge. 

 

These days you can stack games like 36 Fragments of Midnight, Slyde, and a whole host of bullshit easy games just for the sake of trophies. Some of these shitty games I’ve seen are some of the worst games I saw in my life. 

 

Sure, the old days weren’t really all that better because older gamers probably played a lot of crappy games on their NES. Only back then the games were difficult, these days they are generally piss easy. 

 

I can offer you a list of good games worth going after. The Uncharted Remastered Collection is a trilogy I enjoy. I ended up using glitches for the Brutal difficulty trophies, so I can’t say I really put my best into it. But it gave me satisfaction knowing that I 100 percent the games, because a lot of people just skip going for Brutal. 

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Luckily my profile still reflects me as the gamer I've always been since the beginning, which was... ages ago, almost the dawn of gaming lol

I didn't go out of my way to amass trophies or for whatever reason, though I've decided to give a chance every now and then to some less known and quick plats or indies, when reviews are favorable and if they fall inside the genres I like, and also to relax between hard or time consuming games.

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I think part of the problem is tech. Back in the 90’s, if you had a solid game collection if was because it took years to accumulate games. And because of that, we all spent way much more time on our games because we most likely didn’t get a new one until or birthday or Christmas.  If that.  Nowadays, you can go into GameStop and pick up 4 games for $20 bucks, or hit up the sales. SO it’s too easy now to buy a bunch of games and get stuck with a bunch of shit scores or trophies while we hop from game to game. Of course we didn’t have dlc or achievements back then either typically. 

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On 6/23/2018 at 10:50 PM, Adamantium said:

So here's the thing: I've been gaming since the mid 90's, I've had little breaks here and there when life has been manic, but gaming has always been a part of my life in some form or another, for as long as I can remember.

 

Since the original Xbox launched, I've mostly played my games on an Xbox system. From the early 360 days up until last year, I played multiplayer almost exclusively; typical Call of Duty, FIFA, GTA Etc... But right at the beginning of last year, it started to become stale, certain friends weren't really online much anymore and as the numbers of our group dwindled, I began losing interest in the games I had been playing for years. So I needed a change of pace, so I played a few single player games and started to hunt for achievements/trophies. (I didn't have a PS4 at the time but I would eventually get one).

 

As I started to get into achievement/trophy hunting, I decided to create a new Xbox profile and when I got a PlayStation I created my first PSN account. Reason being is I wanted my profiles to reflect me as a gamer, to showcase that I was completing my games and what sort of games I'm actually into. Problem is, I got totally wrapped up in putting down a big Gamerscore and racking up numbers, so I went on a tear and played alot of shit games. Admittedly, I had fun, because I felt excited to embrace this change of pace and have some new gaming goals. But recently I've hit an all time low in terms of motivation to play anything, when I look at my profile on both platforms, they're just cluttered with shit games that I honestly wouldn't of played without easy Gamerscore or quick Trophies, and that doesn't reflect me as a gamer or atleast the gamer I am today and just leaves me feeling frustrated.

 

Despite struggling with low motivation, I've recently completed God of War and it was fucking awesome! I think it highlighted to me that bar a few games on my profiles, the majority are complete and utter shite and I'm not sure whether to just start a fresh and make a new account... Or to stick with the profile I have on each platform and just make conscious effort going forward to not play games for easy/quick completions and play purely based on what I'm into or what looks fun (Should of been that way from the start) 

 

One good thing that has come of all this though, is that I feel that I reconnected with the reasons I started gaming all those years ago. I'm now more interested in amazing single player games than I have been in many years, and that's how it all started. Same reasons that I find myself frustrated with the games I have been playing over the last year. 

 

Has anyone else found themselves looking at their own profile and felt like I do? What would you do? 

 

Apologies for the long post !

You don't need to apologize for that buddy. Your a great gamer without a doubt.

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39 minutes ago, kitty_sullivan said:

I think part of the problem is tech. Back in the 90’s, if you had a solid game collection if was because it took years to accumulate games. And because of that, we all spent way much more time on our games because we most likely didn’t get a new one until or birthday or Christmas.  If that.  Nowadays, you can go into GameStop and pick up 4 games for $20 bucks, or hit up the sales. SO it’s too easy now to buy a bunch of games and get stuck with a bunch of shit scores or trophies while we hop from game to game. Of course we didn’t have dlc or achievements back then either typically. 

 

You had a lower minimum wage and the games themselves were often more than $59.99. 

 

In a way I respect James Rolfe (Angry Video Game Nerd) and Mike Matei because they came up when games weren’t so readily available. You could end up with a complete stinker, games like Dick Tracy for the NES or Ghostbusters. Much of what they have is games they were probably never able to play when they were younger but technology gives them the option to buy any game they want at any time. 

 

Something like Donkey Kong Country or Chrono Trigger you really had to save up for. I just recently played the SEGA Classics collection for the PS4 and I can definitely tell you that all of those games it has would of been an arm and a leg to pay for back in the day. 

 

Games are so readily available and cheap these days it’s almost comical. That’s probably why I see a lot of unfinished games on peoples lists. Mine would be that way too if I just decided to play every game I bought on the PS3/PS4/Vita on my trophy list.

 

Plus with today’s technology like smartphones doing everything from watching porn to being able to see what everyone is doing on Instagram, it’s no wonder we jump from game to game. Being distracted by technology is more apparent now than ever before. 

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2 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

You had a lower minimum wage and the games themselves were often more than $59.99. 

 

In a way I respect James Rolfe (Angry Video Game Nerd) and Mike Matei because they came up when games weren’t so readily available. You could end up with a complete stinker, games like Dick Tracy for the NES or Ghostbusters. Much of what they have is games they were probably never able to play when they were younger but technology gives them the option to buy any game they want at any time. 

 

Something like Donkey Kong Country or Chrono Trigger you really had to save up for. I just recently played the SEGA Classics collection for the PS4 and I can definitely tell you that all of those games it has would of been an arm and a leg to pay for back in the day. 

 

Games are so readily available and cheap these days it’s almost comical. That’s probably why I see a lot of unfinished games on peoples lists. Mine would be that way too if I just decided to play every game I bought on the PS3/PS4/Vita on my trophy list.

 

Plus with today’s technology like smartphones doing everything from watching porn to being able to see what everyone is doing on Instagram, it’s no wonder we jump from game to game. Being distracted by technology is more apparent now than ever before. 

True. I remember buying Mario 64 when the N64 first launched...I paid $79.99. Even earlier, back when Super Mario brothers 3 launched, my dad and I drove all the way to Atlanta to get it. It was $59.99.  I cherished that game for ever. 

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Just now, kitty_sullivan said:

True. I remember buying Mario 64 when the N64 first launched...I paid $79.99. Even earlier, back when Super Mario brothers 3 launched, my dad and I drove all the way to Atlanta to get it. It was $59.99.  I cherished that game for ever. 

 

Super Mario Bros 3 was the first game I ever played. That along with Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Super Mario World, Super Metroid and Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past was what really got me into gaming.

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2 minutes ago, Spaz said:

 

Super Mario Bros 3 was the first game I ever played. That along with Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Super Mario World, Super Metroid and Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past was what really got me into gaming.

Yeah, I never had a sega. My friends had one. I was stuck with Nintendo and rightfully so had hours of fun with it.  I’m happy to get the Sega Genesis collection like you did. Get to experience Phantasy star 2 and other classics I missed out on as a young kid. If you ever wanna coop some sonic, hit me with a friend request on PS4. Just mention this site. My PSN is logically, my posted name.

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9 minutes ago, kitty_sullivan said:

Yeah, I never had a sega. My friends had one. I was stuck with Nintendo and rightfully so had hours of fun with it.  I’m happy to get the Sega Genesis collection like you did. Get to experience Phantasy star 2 and other classics I missed out on as a young kid. If you ever wanna coop some sonic, hit me with a friend request on PS4. Just mention this site. My PSN is logically, my posted name.

 

I appreciate the offer. 

 

Well truthfully I didn’t have a Super Nintendo until much later. The Super Nintendo had a superior library of games, that’s not to say the Genesis had a good library on its own because they did. SEGA however went downhill rather quickly once they came out with the SEGA 32X. 

 

Personally I would like to see more of these old collections make it to modern consoles. We have the SEGA games but not exactly a lot of games from Nintendo. 

 

There are the Mega Man games. Every Mega Man game from 1 to 7 was on Nintendo’s consoles. This year we are getting the Mega Man X collection so that will be a few more games that originally released on the Super Nintendo. 

 

Capcom has a library of their games from Nintendo readily available on the PS4. 

 

Such a shame Konami is NOT releasing their old library. Those Castlevania games, the original Metal Gear game that Hideo Kojima himself designed, etc. I would buy those games in an instant.

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10 minutes ago, Spaz said:

 

I appreciate the offer. 

 

Well truthfully I didn’t have a Super Nintendo until much later. The Super Nintendo had a superior library of games, that’s not to say the Genesis had a good library on its own because they did. SEGA however went downhill rather quickly once they came out with the SEGA 32X. 

 

Personally I would like to see more of these old collections make it to modern consoles. We have the SEGA games but not exactly a lot of games from Nintendo. 

 

There are the Mega Man games. Every Mega Man game from 1 to 7 was on Nintendo’s consoles. This year we are getting the Mega Man X collection so that will be a few more games that originally released on the Super Nintendo. 

 

Capcom has a library of their games from Nintendo readily available on the PS4. 

 

Such a shame Konami is NOT releasing their old library. Those Castlevania games, the original Metal Gear game that Hideo Kojima himself designed, etc. I would buy those games in an instant.

Man, I’d give up my left nut for Castlevania 3 just sayin. 

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16 minutes ago, kitty_sullivan said:

Man, I’d give up my left nut for Castlevania 3 just sayin. 

 

I know.

 

Super Castlevania would be awesome.

 

But nope. Konami had to go to pachinko machines and screw up an entire franchise (Metal Gear Solid).

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it's all about balance, if you're constantly going for UR trophies, you will be in for an long and hard frustrating road, or boosting for hundreds of hours.

unless UR trophies feel like rare trophies, wish I had that focus at times but it takes me twice or three times has long to complete them.

they are rewarding but in reality the developers don't get a hold of you or put you in some gaming book for the world to see.

 

trophies are just personal goals and great watermarks, play what you want to play, if you get judged ohh well it's just a game.

 

Also we are the ones making them rich, so they depend on us to buy these games.

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On 6/23/2018 at 3:50 AM, Adamantium said:

Has anyone else found themselves looking at their own profile and felt like I do? What would you do? 

 

I like the aspect of trophies that act as a log or diary. My 1% complete trophy lists for Drawn to Death and Lords of the Fallen serve to record that I don't always finish what I start, but they also act as a credential that I don't let negative hype make up my mind for me — I'm willing to see for myself. You can see I platinumed God of War in 10 days, but took 2 years to finish Unravel.

 

Of course nobody cares but me, but I like that record-keeping aspect. If I were in your position, I would play what I liked and let my trophy list document the change over time.

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25 minutes ago, Galactic Hyper Balls said:

it's all about balance, if you're constantly going for UR trophies, you will be in for an long and hard frustrating road, or boosting for hundreds of hours.

unless UR trophies feel like rare trophies, wish I had that focus at times but it takes me twice or three times has long to complete them.

they are rewarding but in reality the developers don't get a hold of you or put you in some gaming book for the world to see.

 

trophies are just personal goals and great watermarks, play what you want to play, if you get judged ohh well it's just a game.

 

Also we are the ones making them rich, so they depend on us to buy these games.

 

Nobody cares about your trophy list but yourself. I think too many people try to get praise and recognition by completing an extremely difficult game or say they've earned 20 - 30 thousand trophies just for some trivial gain.

 

Games are meant to be played for fun. They're entertainment, entertainment is used to distract us from the real world of work and commerce. Trophies/Achievements to me are just icing on top of the cake, I just strive to go for them because I find them motivating and stimulating.

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1 minute ago, Spaz said:

 

Trophies/Achievements to me are just icing on top of the cake, I just strive to go for them because I find them motivating and stimulating.

 

exactly, some tough games can be therapy to distract us humans from this world of buy,sell install and do it again.

gaming has just gotten so much bigger has a whole.

 

in reality the true goal is retirement, to reach retirement, that would be awesome, and that takes a lot of money and saving, 401k

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Galactic Hyper Balls said:

 

exactly, some tough games can be therapy to distract us humans from this world of buy,sell install and do it again.

gaming has just gotten so much bigger has a whole.

 

in reality the true goal is retirement, to reach retirement, that would be awesome, and that takes a lot of money and saving, 401k

 

 

 

 

 

Gaming has eclipsed the movie and music industries. A lot different from when I was a kid.

 

With where America is going now, we're basically fucked when it comes to retirement. Older generations are going to suck all the money out of Social Security and by then we're not going to have much to go by.

 

Our future is likely going to be a rather grim one compared to where our economy was decades ago.

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On 6/23/2018 at 6:52 AM, Zolkovo said:

Some day everyone will realise no one really gives a shit about PSN level or total # of trophies or # of platinums. Life's too short to care about these arbitrary numbers. The stark reality is that no one gives a toss about a profile that isn't their own.

 

So in the end, just stick to the games you love and enjoy and try to get the most out of them.

Very true. And don't forget that this entire system could easily be removed in the future and all the effort and stress you put on yourself could be gone in a second. :P

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