Getting really tired of this generation and Sony

[qregory]

1 minute ago, fbdbh said:

 

Funnily enough, I see indies getting stale as well  The holy trinity of polished 3D walking simulators, 8/16 bit platformers and Dark Souls reinterpretations never fail to amuse me.

Yep, countless indie pixel platformer metroidvanias are getting old as much as cinematic third person games.

[TJ_Solo]

13 minutes ago, fbdbh said:

 

Just stop already, you're still going.

 

Aren't you quitting gaming yet? Focus on your exit. I'll handle my posting.

[majob]

10 minutes ago, nyonmyan said:

The most offensive thing to me is how they fucked over Vita, milked it with overpriced memory cards for some measly profit and then straight up murdered it.

And after that they go out of their way to fund and shill worthless VR. If Vita got half of support they gave to VR it wouldn't ended up like that.

 

My theory is that there are Nintendo saboteurs within Sony CEOs. At least that's the only reasonable explanation for this shit.

It really didn't help that the Vita was released when smart phones were coming into their own and the mobile gaming market exploded. It's unlikely you'll ever see a traditional gaming handheld ever again now with mobile phones. The switch is just a console with portability

[fbdbh]

Just now, majob said:

It really didn't help that the Vita was released when smart phones were coming into their own and the mobile gaming market exploded. It's unlikely you'll ever see a traditional gaming handheld ever again now with mobile phones. The switch is just a console with portability

 

That turned out to be false. There is a market for the Vita, but not the way it was produced. The Switch is just a console with portability... and that's what the Vita was supposed to be doing! The 3DS is still thriving. And I mean, trophies in your pocket, right?

[DarkHpokinsn]

2 hours ago, fbdbh said:

 

It was... so... boring.

 

 

PS2 was backwards compatible with PS1

PS3 was backwards compatible with PS1 (some versions with PS2)

PS4 did nothing. (Doesn't even play Music CDs anymore :D)

 

It was... kind of a step back.

PS3 wasn’t compatible with previous generations except PS1 for most of the PS3 generation. I don’t see it as a necessary feature, it’s cool when they do it but who would buy a PS just to play older games? Doesn’t really make sense.

[SnowxSakura]

33 minutes ago, TJ_Solo said:

 

Look at you understanding something.

So when you used to go to school. Was the only place you learned actually in a school building? No homework? Summer projects? self learning? Reading a book for fun and learning something new by accident?
 

Jesus man, why are you STILL talking down to people? Do you really think you're that much better than people?

[majob]

12 minutes ago, fbdbh said:

 

That turned out to be false. There is a market for the Vita, but not the way it was produced. The Switch is just a console with portability... and that's what the Vita was supposed to be doing! The 3DS is still thriving. And I mean, trophies in your pocket, right?

The 3DS had nintendo exclusives like Pokemon, the Vita had no such lineup, it was more expensive and had expensive proprietary memory cards. It came out with nothing going for it but it still managed to last seven years

[qregory]

13 minutes ago, fbdbh said:

 

That turned out to be false. There is a market for the Vita, but not the way it was produced. The Switch is just a console with portability... and that's what the Vita was supposed to be doing! The 3DS is still thriving. And I mean, trophies in your pocket, right?

The portability of the Switch is not the reason most people buy one, it's mostly an excuse they have for the poor performance and shit ports that it gets.

[Black_Rose_IX]

I'm just waiting for the psn name change.

[fbdbh]

7 minutes ago, DarkHpokinsn said:

PS3 wasn’t compatible with previous generations except PS1 for most of the PS3 generation. I don’t see it as a necessary feature, it’s cool when they do it but who would buy a PS just to play older games? Doesn’t really make sense.

 

Why?

 

I came from PC gaming around 2013 when I couldn't take it anymore, I missed out on games like the entire Final Fantasy series (was eyeing especially 9), but more importantly, The Last of Us and Uncharted were really attractive. As soon as I purchased myself a cheap PS3, I instantly downloaded Final Fantasy IX and ordered PS2 classics like the Jak trilogy and the Ratchet trilogy, Ico/Shadow of the Colossus. And then I played PS3 games as well. I had an absolute blast. I only had to buy a relatively recent, $150 HD console. Would I've gone through the trouble with a used PS2? Nah.

 

 

Edited March 26, 2019 by fbdbh

[DarkHpokinsn]

30 minutes ago, fbdbh said:

 

Don't misunderstand. I love Sony, and I always loved them specifically because they kept pushing like no other company out there. 

 

Nintendo and Xbox are no better, but since last year's E3 I can definitely tell that they are trying harder than Sony.

Lol no they really aren’t.

Just now, fbdbh said:

 

Why?

 

I came from PC gaming around 2013 when I couldn't take it anymore, I missed out on games like the entire Final Fantasy series (was eyeing especially 9), but more importantly, The Last of Us and Uncharted were really attractive. As soon as I purchased myself a cheap PS3, I instantly downloaded Final Fantasy IX and ordered PS2 classics like the Jak trilogy and the Ratchet trilogy, Ico/Shadow of the Colossus. And then I played PS3 games as well. I had an absolute blast. And I just bought a relatively recent, $150 HD console. Would I've gone through the trouble with a used PS2? Nah.

 

 

So you would buy a new console to play old games? Sounds kind of silly but whatever I guess.

[Brawler]

22 minutes ago, nyonmyan said:

The most offensive thing to me is how they fucked over Vita, milked it with overpriced memory cards for some measly profit and then straight up murdered it.

And after that they go out of their way to fund and shill worthless VR. If Vita got half of support they gave to VR it wouldn't ended up like that.

 

My theory is that there are Nintendo saboteurs within Sony CEOs. At least that's the only reasonable explanation for this shit.

 

Handhelds aren't their lane, Nintendo has a lock on that market. Even if they supported it a bit more things wouldn't have changed all that much after the initial damage was done. It was the smarter move to shift to something like VR where the other main consoles aren't doing it. Your theory did give me a chuckle, though.

 

1 minute ago, Kezzai said:

The portability of the Switch is not the reason most people buy one, it's mostly an excuse they have for the poor performance and shit ports that it gets.

 

That's a pretty dumb take tbh. A lot of people, myself included, use their Switch in portable mode more often than not. Even in portable mode the games look good to me. Your comment seems like you're being dismissive just for the sake of it. 

[qregory]

Just now, Brawler said:

That's a pretty dumb take tbh. A lot of people, myself included, use their Switch in portable mode more often than not. Even in portable mode the games look good to me. Your comment seems like you're being dismissive just for the sake of it. 

They might look good to you sure, but it's just like Nintendo's other consoles. Always poorer performance than the competition for the sake of dumb gimmicks.

[fbdbh]

3 minutes ago, Kezzai said:

They might look good to you sure, but it's just like Nintendo's other consoles. Always poorer performance than the competition for the sake of dumb gimmicks.

 

Recently bought a New 2DS XL, no gimmicks, somewhat lesser resolution, but performance is not poor, it's quite the opposite. Link Between Worlds and Dragon Quest VIII load fast and play fast.

 

My Switch experiences are also nice, especially with exclusives.

[Brawler]

Just now, Kezzai said:

They might look good to you sure, but it's just like Nintendo's other consoles. Always poorer performance than the competition for the sake of dumb gimmicks.

 

Portability isn't a dumb gimmick tho. I'm fine with it not running 4K if the trade off is I can take it with me as I go. You're trying way too hard to be a downer to the point I have to ask, did Nintendo hurt you?

[Floorkiller74]

10 minutes ago, DarkHpokinsn said:

Lol no they really aren’t.

So you would buy a new console to play old games? Sounds kind of silly but whatever I guess.

 

 

It's silly to play games from previous gens that you missed because you didn't play on that platform? I think that seems perfectly reasonable. This thread reeks of fanboyism.

[Gommes_]

I agree that the PS4 is not that great in terms of games as the PS3 but I have to say that I like the console more than during the first three years. Exclusives like Nier, GoW and Bloodborne were just amazing! That SotC remake was great as well but that's about it when thinking about really good games. However I don't see a bigger problem regarding Sony but the market as a whole.

 

So many games follow certain formulas and are just boring. The trend of loot shooters, battle royals, games as a service, fps ect. is just soo annoying. The upside is that my backlog is huge and if the industry suddenly stopped I would be okay with it due to the amount of unplayed games. I also have to say that I own a Switch and the experiences on there were just great so far. Smaller games like Celeste and Dead Cells were also really great and kinda new. So why don't you play on other platforms or other games from time to time? Maybe the grass actually IS greener.

[qregory]

3 minutes ago, Brawler said:

 

Portability isn't a dumb gimmick tho. I'm fine with it not running 4K if the trade off is I can take it with me as I go. You're trying way too hard to be a downer to the point I have to ask, did Nintendo hurt you?

No they didn't, but I don't like mindless fanboys who dickride them despite them being the worst console provider for a multitude of reasons.

[N7RiotDragon]

I'm okay with what Sony has done this gen., but that being said I'm older now being a Sony supporter since I got my PS1.  So I will say I don't game as much as I used to but I have been happy with the games I have played so far on the PS4.  Granted a lot of my collection is buying the old RE games.  But I will say I got to enjoy Persona 5 which is a great game in my opinion, and got a chance to play classics like the Yakuza games which I missed out on when they were originally released.  I guess from a new ip stand point I can see what every one is talking about.  Granted these are just my thoughts and don't mean really anything at the end of the day. 

[Brawler]

7 minutes ago, Kezzai said:

No they didn't, but I don't like mindless fanboys who dickride them despite them being the worst console provider for a multitude of reasons.

 

The only person being mindless here is you. I'm not "dickriding" them at all, I've had my fair share of criticism about the Switch as well. I just think you're going too far in the other direction in a thread that isn't even about Nintendo and I'm not entirely sure why. Kind of makes you come off like the mindless fanboy who dickrides Sony to the point you'll ree about other consoles just because the OP said something bad about them. At least he had a well-constructed thought behind it.

[Caesar Clown]

Again with the E3 whining? E3 is not relevant anymore. It was originally a trade show designed to show off games to reporters who would then head back to their magazine publications and tell the world what games were coming soon. There was no real way for gaming companies to communicate with their customers except thru those magazines. Now they have Twitter and Facebook, and can directly speak to the people they're selling to. They don't have to waste money flying to some convention to show off something that could be revealed in a simple YouTube trailer. E3 is a relic from the past, and Sony skipping it shows they're doing something right.

[qregory]

2 minutes ago, Brawler said:

 

The only person being mindless here is you. I'm not "dickriding" them at all, I've had my fair share of criticism about the Switch as well. I just think you're going too far in the other direction in a thread that isn't even about Nintendo and I'm not entirely sure why. Kind of makes you come off like the mindless fanboy who dickrides Sony to the point you'll ree about other consoles just because the OP said something bad about them. At least he had a well-constructed thought behind it.

Yep, the thread isn't specifically about Nintendo, but it is fair to compare Sony to their competition in a thread like this. Stop reeing about my opinion.

[RevengeancePrime]

I think you're just not enjoying Sony's exclusives. You just said Ratchet and Clank is like God of War. They are nothing alike, the same can be said for The Last of Us. Ratchet and Clank felt very much like the R&C games from previous generations and people barely even talk about it. I guarantee the same would have happened to God of War had they just made another God of War game. I can understand your complaints about meaningless collectibles, but games have had this for as long as I can remember. 

 

You also complained about a lack of new IPs and then mentioned how Capcom's on fire. All of the games Capcom's been killing it with are new entries in long running franchises. And why would you want sequels quickly pushed out? Uncharted 3 was horrible and it seems most people talk about how Killzone 3 isn't better than Killzone 2.

 

Maybe you'll find more enjoyment with the Switch until you start feeling like Zelda is the same thing as Mario.

[PerryToxteth]

4 hours ago, fbdbh said:

Just think about it, during the PS2 era if you played a Tomb Raider, a God of War, a Resident Evil, a Ratchet and Clank, a Metal Gear Solid 3, just remember how they were nothing like each other. And now they are. In so many ways, that they start losing their identity. Setting, dressing, art direction are there as superficial differences, but gameplay-wise, I've been cleaning so much bullshit from open world maps, I've been running and gunning just to arrive to a seamless transition of a cutscene, so much now that... I'm tired. I'm tired of all.

 

It's the same story with Hollywood. It costs so much money to make a film - or make a game - producers and developers play it safe and regurgitate the same thing over and over again because they need it to sell, so they play it safe.  There's no originality because it's too big a risk. 

[fbdbh]

Just now, ObliviousSenpai said:

I think you're just not enjoying Sony's exclusives. You just said Ratchet and Clank is like God of War. They are nothing alike, the same can be said for The Last of Us. Ratchet and Clank felt very much like the R&C games from previous generations and people barely even talk about it. I guarantee the same would have happened to God of War had they just made another God of War game. I can understand your complaints about meaningless collectibles, but games have had this for as long as I can remember. 

 

You also complained about a lack of new IPs and then mentioned how Capcom's on fire. All of the games Capcom's been killing it with are new entries in long running franchises. And why would you want sequels quickly pushed out? Uncharted 3 was horrible and it seems most people talk about how Killzone 3 isn't better than Killzone 2.

 

Maybe you'll find more enjoyment with the Switch until you start feeling like Zelda is the same thing as Mario.

 

It was a slight exaggeration, but the new God of War is clearly informed by the design choices of The Last of Us, taking even more hints from Tomb Raider (2013), Cory Barlog has worked on that too. God of War lost its genre, lost its sharp combat, and no matter how its drama plays out beautifully, it still doesn't make any sense.

 

Ratchet & Clank might seem similar to its original, but it's definitely not (I could try to be articulate about the subject, but there are people way more competent than me, see the "How Ratchet Lost Its Edge" video by TGBS on Youtube, his GoW videos are also on point). 

 

I disagree, I liked Uncharted 3 more than 4. Capcom is doing great with sequels, and that kind of energy would be nice for Sony franchises. I could let Ratchet slide, if there would be more. Since 2013 the only Ratchet game is that horrible movie tie-in. It's the only one game in the series you can play on PS4! A legendary Sony exclusive series, and that's it for a current gen? At least Capcom is porting its goodies left and right, and if I'm just a stuck up nostalgic weirdo, I can play my favorites on my current console. But not Ratchet. (I'm a Ratchet fan if you haven't noticed :D)