Redbeard-Rik Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 @iSkyIaexcellent round! I got lucky because I had 4 days off work and found someone to boost hawx with all it's ultra rares. I'm looking forward to the return fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex_Da_Brent Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) I'm honestly not entirely sure if I'm looking at the right Zach here ? Guess I'll find out at the end of the fixture Edited September 24, 2020 by Flex_Da_Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microsamm Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Flex_Da_Brent said: I'm honestly not entirely sure if I'm looking at the right Zach profile here Guess I'll find out at the end of the fixture This is the one you right now compete against: https://psnprofiles.com/ZachTheProdigy- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex_Da_Brent Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, microsamm said: This is the one you right now compete against: https://psnprofiles.com/ZachTheProdigy- Ah okay thanks! Seems like I was right after all. Edited September 24, 2020 by Flex_Da_Brent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HcG Clawz Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 8:56 AM, Redbeard-Rik said: @iSkyIaexcellent round! I got lucky because I had 4 days off work and found someone to boost hawx with all it's ultra rares. I'm looking forward to the return fixture. Yeah i was a bit unlucky as i had work on all those days and spending time with the gf that wasnt feeling too good. Nice one on the win tho, hopefully ill be more lucky in the rematch, if i would have been able to plat this game i would have won but didnt have much time yesterday sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooda Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Hades needs to launch on PS4 so I can turn my console back on. The games so good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffectatiousDonk Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 24/09/2020 at 8:15 AM, Krazy_99 said: Not sure what's going on with the bronze league this season, seems like alot of inactivity. There is clearly something wrong with this sites tracking, I have been smashing the cheevos in Forza Horizon 4 and yet no points here ....... cmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wdjat Prinny Doods Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Boooda said: Hades needs to launch on PS4 so I can turn my console back on. The games so good! Yeah it is on Switch. Thinking about getting it on there, looks fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Darren Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Apparently the season 25 & 26 Champion is a cheater. If you ask me, I think it is kind disgusting to know we competed unfairly for 2 seasons. I think the title should be revoked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psy-Tychist Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 hours ago, GTA_Darren said: Apparently the season 25 & 26 Champion is a cheater. If you ask me, I think it is kind disgusting to know we competed unfairly for 2 seasons. I think the title should be revoked. This is always an area I hate to get into. For all intents and purposes, the trophy scoring was above board and neither me nor @ShogunCroCop could see issue with how the trophies have been won. The issue was only brought to light by Tearraven after the second CWC and by that time, Andrea had arranged to retire from the league. It has happened before in the league too but I don't think anything happened to the scoring because it couldn't be definitively proven. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Darren Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Psy-Tychist said: This is always an area I hate to get into. For all intents and purposes, the trophy scoring was above board and neither me nor @ShogunCroCop could see issue with how the trophies have been won. The issue was only brought to light by Tearraven after the second CWC and by that time, Andrea had arranged to retire from the league. It has happened before in the league too but I don't think anything happened to the scoring because it couldn't be definitively proven. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? I recall she had whole bunch ready to plat games during those 2 seasons. My main concern is how many of those games were cheated. Even if it was done off season, it still took effect during the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wdjat Prinny Doods Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I mean at this point Andrea has been exposed and no one is considering the trophies on her account legit now which also would mean no one here considers her titles legit. Revoking or not revoking the title doesn't really matter at this point since the common perception of her account and any points earned from it aren't legit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffectatiousDonk Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 17 hours ago, GTA_Darren said: Apparently the season 25 & 26 Champion is a cheater. If you ask me, I think it is kind disgusting to know we competed unfairly for 2 seasons. I think the title should be revoked. I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavergray Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I agree that Andrea's titles should be revoked and be given to whoever was second place for those titles. I think that would be the quickest, easiest, and fairest way to deal with everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunCroCop Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 As for Andrea, I have considered all of the viewpoints here. I'll make any necessary changes tomorrow when I update the standings and statistics. I am not sure I can give the trophy to second place in the CWC because she also altered results in the season. I know in season 25 in which Precision and jem were a part of when we were all in Bronze, the 3 of us finished 6-4, and we all lost twice to Andrea. So which of us would have taken her place in the CWC? Awarding it to second in the CWC would be unfair, because any of the 3 of us should have been in it and maybe even have won in the CWC too, had we actually been able to make it. Same goes for those who were affected in season 26 in Silver League. If any revocation is done, I think the tile should stay vacant. But I will discuss with the other admins to decide on the best course of action. For now, here are the matchups for fixture 6: Platinum League theshywaterguy v shadowhood1111 Wavergray v ShogunCroCop GTA_Darren v microsamm Gold League iSkyIa v Psy-Tychist BraveNoobWorld v Boooda Arctic Cress v Redbeard-Rik Silver League blu3st4rdust305 v stupid0089 Wdjat Prinny Doods v X18JELLO18X FallacyUnknown v me3lingual Bronze League Sylvie v OmegaFenron AffectatiousDonk v Krazy_99 AmarisSkye v Omar Manganese League Sptj7 v freddie1989 Zach v Ichiban-Hybrid BYE: Flex_Da_Brent Fixture 6 began 10 minutes ago. Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavergray Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, ShogunCroCop said: As for Andrea, I have considered all of the viewpoints here. I'll make any necessary changes tomorrow when I update the standings and statistics. I am not sure I can give the trophy to second place in the CWC because she also altered results in the season. I know in season 25 in which Precision and jem were a part of when we were all in Bronze, the 3 of us finished 6-4, and we all lost twice to Andrea. So which of us would have taken her place in the CWC? Awarding it to second in the CWC would be unfair, because any of the 3 of us should have been in it and maybe even have won in the CWC too, had we actually been able to make it. Same goes for those who were affected in season 26 in Silver League. If any revocation is done, I think the tile should stay vacant. But I will discuss with the other admins to decide on the best course of action. For now, here are the matchups for fixture 6: I can see how that will be a messy situation to deal with for the CWC, but with just the League champ title don't we have rule 11 to deal with tie-breaker situations? 11. League positioning is worked out through the following means: - Amount of points earned in the season - Average individual score - Amount of platinums earned in the season - Head to head result So if you all lost to Andrea would not the second place person be found based Rule 11? Edited September 27, 2020 by Wavergray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunCroCop Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Wavergray said: I can see how that will be a messy situation to deal with for the CWC, but with just the League champ title don't we have rule 11 to deal with tie-breaker situations? 11. League positioning is worked out through the following means: - Amount of points earned in the season - Average individual score - Amount of platinums earned in the season - Head to head result So if you all lost to Andrea would not the second place person be found based Rule 11? True. That probably would not have changed. Whoever finished second won all tiebreakers, and would have been first. I guess my main point though was that maybe without Andrea in that season, we play it different, and maybe the ties never even happen. IIRC, some of us set up our fixtures differently based on how the matchups fell with her, and the scoring opportunities available. It's all hypothesis at this point, and I'd rather not go down that rabbit hole, but it does manifest all of the different permutations that could have happened without the cheating. That's why it makes it difficult to even award the second place finisher of the CWC the title. It'd be better to leave it vacant, or throw up asterisks next to her wins. Edited September 27, 2020 by ShogunCroCop 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbeard-Rik Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just put a big C next to her name for cheater or another c word of your choosing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex_Da_Brent Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShogunCroCop said: True. That probably would not have changed. Whoever finished second won all tiebreakers, and would have been first. I guess my main point though was that maybe without Andrea in that season, we play it different, and maybe the ties never even happen. IIRC, some of us set up our fixtures differently based on how the matchups fell with her, and the scoring opportunities available. It's all hypothesis at this point, and I'd rather not go down that rabbit hole, but it does manifest all of the different permutations that could have happened without the cheating. That's why it makes it difficult to even award the second place finisher of the CWC the title. It'd be better to leave it vacant, or throw up asterisks next to her wins. I'm following you on that, it's basically just a big 'what if' scenario. The timing of the fixtures would have been different without Andrea which might have been better or worse for some people, maybe some people actually tried to beat Andrea and wasted a lot of ammo doing so while others probably just let her win beforehand and took the time to set up some points to grab for the next fixture which put them into a huge advantage. It's not as easy to just let the person who came in second take it because Andrea had too much of an influence on the entire competition to determine if that same person would also have won without her. Besides, how can we determine who would have ultimately won the CWC without Andrea if one of the "rightful" particpants wasn't even able to participate because of her. Leaving it vacant seems to be the best option. Edited September 27, 2020 by Flex_Da_Brent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunCroCop Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Here are the scores for Fixture 5: Platinum League ShogunCroCop (5) v (52.6) microsamm (1) shadowhood1111 (99.2) v (0) Wavergray GTA_Darren (26.1) v (11.2) theshywaterguy Gold League Boooda (19) v (203.6) Redbeard-Rik (2) BraveNoobWorld (0) v (45) Psy-Tychist Arctic Cress (72.2) v (85) iSkyIa Silver League blu3st4rdust305 (14.5) v (92.7) FallacyUnknown Wdjat Prinny Doods (0) v (0) stupid0089 X18JELLO18X (51.9) v (22.8) me3lingual Bronze League Omar (0) v (9.6) Krazy_99 Sylvie (0) v (0) AmarisSkye OmegaFenron (8) v (6.3) AffectatiousDonk Manganese League Sptj7 (4) v (29.5) Ichiban-Hybrid Zach (4.3) v (42.3) Flex_Da_Brent BYE: freddie1989 (0) Standings and statistics will be updated shortly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunCroCop Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Standings and statistics are updated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ShogunCroCop Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Here is what I have decided to do about the elephant in the room.... I was not notified until the end of Season 26 CWC about the cheating of Andrea. I am certain many suspected, but suspecting and having proof are different. Because I did not find out until the end of season 26, and I am not sure if there is proof she cheated during season 25 and season 26, or whether it happened before or after. So here is my decision: her name will stay on as the CWC winner for Season 25 and 26, but in the CWC rankings (view the CWC sheet), she will be removed. I will also add a notation that season 25 and 26 may have been won illegitimately. She is also never allowed to participate in future seasons. I feel that gives a good compromise, and is the best decision. Because all of the CWC participants from Seasons 25 & 26, as well as jemmie, Precision, Wavergray, and myself, were all affected by her in our respective leagues in seasons 25 and 26. Any of us could and should have legitimately won, and who knows how the CWC would have went based on that. I will also say this: if anyone asks to join and I put them on the waiting list, or approve them joining, and you suspect they are cheating or have cheated, let me know, so that I can investigate, and try to ensure this does not happen again, and that we don't allow cheaters into this event. Edited September 27, 2020 by ShogunCroCop 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScruffyton Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 This is probably a dumb question, but is it too late to join Season 28? If so, feel free to pencil me in for Season 29. I would love to be a part of one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunCroCop Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 hours ago, TheScruffyton said: This is probably a dumb question, but is it too late to join Season 28? If so, feel free to pencil me in for Season 29. I would love to be a part of one of these. It is too late to join Season 28. I can put you on the wait list for Season 29. Per rule 9, you'll need to get your post count up: 9. Players are only eligible to join if they posses one of the following:- 50 forum posts and 15 platinums- 25 forum posts and 40 platinums But I am pretty lenient on this. However, I did want to make you aware. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveNoobWorld Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Been completely unmotivated to trophy hunt lately. Just playing old games I’ve already platted. What’s the threshold for being forcibly retired? If I haven’t passed it already, I’ll put up a token effort for the remaining fixtures, take relegation, and get a fresh start next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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