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I have a question for those of you who have already finished the game once, there's something I didn't quite understand : 

 

Why is there no repercussions for real Joker after Akechi killed Shadow Joker? The other people died of a heart attack when they were shot in the Metaverse. Why is it not affecting Joker the same way?

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3 hours ago, Myu said:

I have a question for those of you who have already finished the game once, there's something I didn't quite understand : 

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Why is there no repercussions for real Joker after Akechi killed Shadow Joker? The other people died of a heart attack when they were shot in the Metaverse. Why is it not affecting Joker the same way?

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As I understand it that's not Joker's real shadow, but just a fake Joker. His shadow became Arsene.

 

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4 hours ago, Myu said:

I have a question for those of you who have already finished the game once, there's something I didn't quite understand : 

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Why is there no repercussions for real Joker after Akechi killed Shadow Joker? The other people died of a heart attack when they were shot in the Metaverse. Why is it not affecting Joker the same way?

Because it was cognitive version of Joker inside Akechi's mind. 



Let's look at this.

 

State of world - Timeline

1) Real World - Akechi coming

2) Real World - Phone activates

3) Cognitive World inside Akechi's heart (it's just kokoro, both mind and heart :awesome:) - Akechi arrives to the cell 

This is the important game changer. EVERYONE became copies of themselves only existing in Akechi's world.

4) Cognitive World - Akechi kills Joker

But who does he kill? In fact, Joker that Akechi imagines rather than sees.

The actual act of killing was performed within the cognitive world, therefore, there was no shot to begin with.

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36 minutes ago, Satoshi Ookami said:

 

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Because it was cognitive version of Joker inside Akechi's mind. 

 


Let's look at this.

 

State of world - Timeline

1) Real World - Akechi coming

2) Real World - Phone activates

3) Cognitive World inside Akechi's heart (it's just kokoro, both mind and heart :awesome:) - Akechi arrives to the cell 

This is the important game changer. EVERYONE became copies of themselves only existing in Akechi's world.

4) Cognitive World - Akechi kills Joker

But who does he kill? In fact, Joker that Akechi imagines rather than sees.

The actual act of killing was performed within the cognitive world, therefore, there was no shot to begin with.

 

 

 

So it was all in Akechi's head? So much for the Ace Detective. He's got nothing on Naoto

 

On another note, I think I made a mistake somewhere because I didn't get the "enter a relationship" trophy despite confessing to the Doc and getting her to rank 10. 

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6 minutes ago, Myu said:
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So it was all in Akechi's head? So much for the Ace Detective. He's got nothing on Naoto

 

On another note, I think I made a mistake somewhere because I didn't get the "enter a relationship" trophy despite confessing to the Doc and getting her to rank 10. 

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Yeah, they used the Casino Palace to do it, since the treasure wasn't stolen, the Palace was still intact.

 

That's weird, I got the trophy when confessing. Have you tried spending time with the Doc after reaching rank 10?

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22 hours ago, Dragon-Archon said:
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Yeah, they used the Casino Palace to do it, since the treasure wasn't stolen, the Palace was still intact.

 

That's weird, I got the trophy when confessing. Have you tried spending time with the Doc after reaching rank 10?

 

22 hours ago, Satoshi Ookami said:

I'm pretty sure Takemi has specific conditions on her last 2 S.link levels so you may just need to spend time with her again.

 

I tried again twice, I asked for a clinical trial, I got some musical notes from her and a "I have a strong bond" but nothing else. I probably failed somewhere, I think I won't have the opportunity to get another girl to rank 9 again before the end of my 1st playthrough, I'll try again in NG+. 

 

I've been trying to get 250 different lines from Futaba by challenging the Reaper and getting my ass kicked but no luck there either. I should have read that part of the guide beforehand to try to get as many lines as possible from a certain guest. 

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1 minute ago, Myu said:

I've been trying to get 250 different lines from Futaba by challenging the Reaper and getting my ass kicked but no luck there either. I should have read that part of the guide beforehand to try to get as many lines as possible from a certain guest. 

 

Have you passed the Casino? That really is the best place to grind for Futaba's lines. And be sure to get as many status ailments with as many members as possible, I got the trophy after Yusuke ran from battle :P

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30 minutes ago, Myu said:

I've been trying to get 250 different lines from Futaba by challenging the Reaper and getting my ass kicked but no luck there either. I should have read that part of the guide beforehand to try to get as many lines as possible from a certain guest. 

 

25 minutes ago, ShakeNBake663 said:

Have you passed the Casino? That really is the best place to grind for Futaba's lines. And be sure to get as many status ailments with as many members as possible, I got the trophy after Yusuke ran from battle :P

I kept track of all the lines and got the trophy around 280 lines, but also died a few times, so some of them didn't count.

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I've cleared the Cruiser today, the only place I have access to right now is Mementos. :)

 

After reading the guide, I think I'm going to focus on Baton Pass, Escape and Hold Up lines (money/item) to see if I can make that trophy pop. The only member that ever ran from battle is Makoto :P 

 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Myu said:

I've cleared the Cruiser today, the only place I have access to right now is Mementos. :)

 

After reading the guide, I think I'm going to focus on Baton Pass, Escape and Hold Up lines (money/item) to see if I can make that trophy pop. The only member that ever ran from battle is Makoto :P 

Nice, congrats :yay: .

 

Good luck with the lines, in case it doesn't pop you'll know what to look out for in NG+.

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When I get my platinum, I want to have the Morgana emblem. I love cats. ^_^

 

And yes, I will try to get to work on the game but I promised some people that I would livestream Binding of Isaac on the PS4 for Halloween. Probably during the holidays. I also started playing Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep and I was referred to Enter the Gungeon.

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15 hours ago, Beyondthegrave07 said:

Good to know. I'll keep switching up my party as much as possible and force some of the status effects when possible. Shouldn't be too terribly difficult.

Hi for the Futaba lines you can purchase the different drugs from the drug store in Shibuya to help in lowering stats. Get several for each team member and use them in battle to get those ailments faster. Other ways is to get a Persona that does Stagnant air and helps to increase the susceptibility of inflicting ailments.

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So I was just wondering, for those of you who have done it already...

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Who was in your party for the fight with the twins? Honestly with the Yoshitsune that you can make it can totally be done solo, but I'm still wondering. I had Akechi for Deliberate, Ryuji for Charge/God Hand, and Makoto for healing and defensive buffing :)

 

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Off topic:

 

Can I just have that customized Makoto pretty plssss....

 

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OT: Continue the dissing with potato head now.

 

Also:

 

5 minutes ago, ShakeNBake663 said:

So I was just wondering, for those of you who have done it already...

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Who was in your party for the fight with the twins? Honestly with the Yoshitsune that you can make it can totally be done solo, but I'm still wondering. I had Akechi for Deliberate, Ryuji for Charge/God Hand, and Makoto for healing and defensive buffing :)

 

 

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I had Ann, Makoto and Haru in my party

 

Ann for all the magic buffs, Makoto for healing and Haru for heat riser. If you learn the pattern on what persona the twins will use, it will be easy.

 

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