Nucle377 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Because right now this is joke and typical time-wasting. I made topic on Capcom's forum, support me, if you agree. http://www.capcom-unity.com/monster_hunter/go/thread/view/146585/30985865/?sdb=1&post_num=1#553464739 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucle377 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Interesting update from PowerPyx Quote Hey guys, I need your help testing something! There is a huge difference between amount of people who earned 1 miniature crown (2,2%) and 1 giant crown (56%). My THEORY is that miniature crowns are from tempered monsters only, which spawn in the endgame on high-rank. If one of you finds a miniature crown, please leave a comment (or send me an email using the contact form or direct message on Twitter) so we can collect data and figure out if there’s more to it or if it’s completely RNG. If it is completely random it’ll be a 1000 hour platinum. Kek. Edited January 31, 2018 by Nucle377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xionx Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 I dont think they have to change anything. Yes its grindy , yes it random . But what is the problem with that? you want the plat than grind it , you dont want to grind than play quicker games. But thats only my opinion. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucle377 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Xionx said: I dont think they have to change anything. Yes its grindy , yes it random . But what is the problem with that? you want the plat than grind it , you dont want to grind than play quicker games. But thats only my opinion. Genius logic. Always come somybody like you. Yes, i want platinum, but don't want to rot in this game and become crazy. And do you understand that not everyone has 1000+ hours for killing same monsters again and again for nothing ? This is not the only game in this year and definitely not the last game in the world. Edited January 31, 2018 by Nucle377 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gage Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nucle377 said: Genius logic. Always come somybody like you. Yes, i want platinum, but don't want to rot in this game and become crazy. And do you understand that not everyone has 1000+ hours for killing same monsters again and again for nothing ? This is not the only game in this year and definitely not the last game in the world. Well, you probably shouldn't have bought a Monster Hunter game because unless I'm mistaken the entire intent of the game is killing the same monsters again and again for hundreds and hundreds of hours. Not every trophy needs to be handed to you, sorry this one is one you'll have to put in effort for. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xionx Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nucle377 said: Genius logic. Always come somybody like you. Yes, i want platinum, but don't want to rot in this game and become crazy. And do you understand that not everyone has 1000+ hours for killing same monsters again and again for nothing ? This is not the only game in this year and definitely not the last game in the world. Yeah and why should everyone get the Platinum? No, the problem is that people like you dont want spend time or effort want everything for free. Next we suggest that capcom should give the crows as login bonus? MH is genre you that is famouse for grinding it for many many hours . And im fine with a plat that shows exactly that . You get it when you spend lot of time playing it. If you dont like that than buy some VN. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoszek Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nucle377 said: Genius logic. Always come somybody like you. Yes, i want platinum, but don't want to rot in this game and become crazy. And do you understand that not everyone has 1000+ hours for killing same monsters again and again for nothing ? This is not the only game in this year and definitely not the last game in the world. Yeah,but platinum won't give you actually anything right? Take Mortal Kombat for example. They should nerf my kung fu is stronger trophy to lets say 10% of what it is right now becouse " This is not the only game in this year and definitely not the last game in the world" and becouse you " want platinum, but don't want to rot in this game and become crazy" I have not started MH yet but i don't want them to increase any drops. They decided when making list that this platinum will be awarded for time and dedication. You don't like it and wan't them to change it so it will suit you. Why won't you just skip it if you know you don't want to farm it? Edited January 31, 2018 by yoszek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyCat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 You bought a Monster Hunter game, a game series known for killing the same monsters and grinding for ages and you complain about having to grind by killing the same monsters? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucle377 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gage said: Well, you probably shouldn't have bought a Monster Hunter game because unless I'm mistaken the entire intent of the game is killing the same monsters again and again for hundreds and hundreds of hours. Not every trophy needs to be handed to you, sorry this one is one you'll have to put in effort for. Do not bend.Everything must have reasonable limits. 3 minutes ago, SaltyCatRemi said: You bought a Monster Hunter game, a game series known for killing the same monsters and grinding for ages and you complain about having to grind by killing the same monsters? I'm fine with killing monsters again and again. I'm not fine with this random! Now it is clear ? Edited January 31, 2018 by Nucle377 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gostamuito Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 A new Mein Leben crying thread appears! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Nucle377 said: Do not bend.Everything must have reasonable limits. I'm fine with killing monsters again and again. I'm not fine with this random! Now it is clear ? But you are fine with random? In your first post you said they should increase the drop rate, that would still be random would it not? I can understand the dislike of random trophies, just like I have a strong dislike of online trophies, but that does not mean that anything should change. A platinum trophy is not a right of the gamer, it is something you earn. Not everyone has the skill or the time to earn them, but that is kind of the whole point. Just because you bought the game, does not mean the game needs to bend to you and make the platinum 'easier' or 'quicker'. It very well might mean that you just cannot get it (like I will probably never achieve the Super Meat Boy platinum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Nucle377 said: Genius logic. Always come somybody like you. Yes, i want platinum, but don't want to rot in this game and become crazy. And do you understand that not everyone has 1000+ hours for killing same monsters again and again for nothing ? This is not the only game in this year and definitely not the last game in the world. Then don't get the platinum and move on? It's not the end of the world if you don't get the platinum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNEET Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Monster Hunter games HAVE always been a timesink and all of a sudden the 9th or 10th NA release comes along and you complain its too long? Its the 9th or 10th entry, you KNEW what you were getting into. I'm happy its 1000 hours if it is. Edited January 31, 2018 by LordNEET Spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagusCreed Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Beyondthegrave07 said: Then don't get the platinum and move on? It's not the end of the world if you don't get the platinum. But I must get the Platinum to destroy the evil power! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Beyondthegrave07 said: Then don't get the platinum and move on? It's not the end of the world if you don't get the platinum. Pretty much the way it'll have to be. As a seasoned Monster Hunter player, the minute I saw the crowns trophies I kind of did a soft lol at those who thought this platinum was going to be a walk in the park and sub-200 hours (which includes PowerPyx, who called it easy in his list reveal, even if he acknowledged that it would take a bit of time). These games are not known for being forgiving to completionist, and if you are going to do the unthinkable and see even a fraction of what these games offer, including this one which removes some of the stuff from the handheld games, then you are going to be sinking hundreds-if-not-a-thousand hours into this game much like everyone else over the years. Just go take a gander at other forums from the previous games, and see how much time so people plug into these games. And yes, that means doing the same repetitive tasks and killing the same monsters. TLDR -- we had this discussion with Mein Leben on the ethics of developers and trophies. You either put in the time and effort or don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMuttGuy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I got my first mini crown from a HR investigation multi-hunt (Anjanath + Great Jagras). So it's just random. But...they will probably release a bunch of mini monster event quests later on. Even if they don't, it's Monster Hunter. I'm going to get the plat eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagusCreed Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, iamjax said: You either put in the time and effort or don't. Life in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So, I have a question. For these "mini-crowns", is there any actual skill involved in getting them, or is this purely a time sink? The arguments presented here seem to hinge on the idea that to get any trophy, you put in your time, and you don't complain. That argument is lame in a vacuum. Would you make the same argument for this (hypothetical) trophy? Grind It out! Leave this game on for 100,000 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xionx Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said: So, I have a question. For these "mini-crowns", is there any actual skill involved in getting them, or is this purely a time sink? The arguments presented here seem to hinge on the idea that to get any trophy, you put in your time, and you don't complain. That argument is lame in a vacuum. Would you make the same argument for this (hypothetical) trophy? Grind It out! Leave this game on for 100,000 hours You still have to kill the monster. Some of them are not that easy to kill. Not impossible but tricky. I have killed all large monster solo, but it doesnt mean it was super easy. So its not only letting the game running wait until trophy pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicho Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Let it be said that even without going for the platinum and just going for doing all the quest and crafting all the gear, you will be playing hundreds of hours. In MH3U on the Wii U I put a bit over 300 hours into my save and I was still a long shot away from "completing" it. (I use the term completing loosely in this context) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvick_ Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Gage said: Well, you probably shouldn't have bought a Monster Hunter game because unless I'm mistaken the entire intent of the game is killing the same monsters again and again for hundreds and hundreds of hours. Not every trophy needs to be handed to you, sorry this one is one you'll have to put in effort for. There is no effort in RNG, dear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucle377 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Sicho said: Let it be said that even without going for the platinum and just going for doing all the quest and crafting all the gear, you will be playing hundreds of hours. In MH3U on the Wii U I put a bit over 300 hours into my save and I was still a long shot away from "completing" it. (I use the term completing loosely in this context) Man, this is lie. You can complete everything in MHW in 80-100 hours, including all side-quests, arenas and investigation. You will get ~ 47 trophies and then will begin real grind asain random festival with infinite of wasted hours for fuc***g crowns. Edited January 31, 2018 by Nucle377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_0089 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nucle377 said: Man, this is lie. You can complete everything in MHW in 80-100 hours, including all side quests, arenas and investigation. You will get ~ 47 trophies and then will begin real grind random festival with infinite of wasted hours for fuc***g crowns. I am curious how you can know this when you yourself only have 15 of the trophies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucle377 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, stupid0089 said: I am curious how you can know this when you yourself only have 15 of the trophies... Because Capcom said long time ago, that you will need 40-50 hours (in fact, much less) to finish the story.Then you can combine a lot of trophies which requires 50 completed arenas, investigations with 100 online missions (you can do everything in co-op in this game from start and everything will count). You can definitely get almost everything in 100 hours, except of stupid grind. Only 100 hunter rank (not scary) and crowns will stop you from the platinum. Please, use your brain. Edited January 31, 2018 by Nucle377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xionx Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nucle377 said: Because Capcom said long time ago, that you will need 40-50 hours (in fact, much less) to finish the story.Then you can combine a lot of trophies which requires 50 completed arenas, investigations with 100 online missions (you can do everything in co-op in this game from start). You can definitely get almost everything in 100 hours, except of stupid grind. Please, use your brain. Than just stop the game after the story . Most people dont buy a MH for story . The real game always started after the story , real grind always started after the story. Nothing different in MHW only that you get Trophies now. Ingame Archivements on 3DS games were nuts aswell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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