Why are the percentages so low?

[shary96]

I'm not saying that the game is easy to complete because i can understand the difficulty of the speedrun trophies... but every time that i check my list of rarest tropies I see some of them, like getting all the collectables of a level, so high up on the list surpassing other achievements like the platinum trophy of Catherine (which by the way took me almost 6 months to get while the collectables trophies of bound took me just half an hour).

Why is that?

Edited February 13, 2023 by shary96

[Kittet3]

The game was on Plus. All plus games have inflated percentages due to a lot of people downloading them, playing a bit, and then never going back to them.

[Angus1343]

PlayStation plus and difficulty

[Elvick_]

I hated the game. So that may be a factor too. I beat it once and found it really dull and tedious. But PS+ as mentioned is probably a larger contribute than just not liking it like me. If I at least liked the game, I'd do more than just beat it. Not the speedruns, I hate those, but I'd at least do more. But I don't' like it.

[LuciaRosethorn]

Rarity doesn't mean anything, it's just the ratio of how many people brought it and how many people got 100%. If only one person brought Super Meat Boy and got the platinum then it would be 100% rarity. I have some games which are hard but because not many people brought it, it seems easy if you're just looking at that.

Edited July 29, 2018 by LuciaRosethorn

[Stardroid]

Rarity usually is a good indicator as to how difficult it is to complete a game in one form or the other. But games that went through a PS+ period will always have lower rarity ratings. What a weird thread, though.

[Angus1343]

1 minute ago, Starlove- said:

Rarity usually is a good indicator as to how difficult it is to complete a game in one form or the other. But games that went through a PS+ period will always have lower rarity ratings. What a weird thread, though.

Lol my thoughts exactly.?

[shary96]

1 hour ago, Starlove- said:

Rarity usually is a good indicator as to how difficult it is to complete a game in one form or the other. But games that went through a PS+ period will always have lower rarity ratings. What a weird thread, though.

This game in particular had ridicolous percentages even before it went on PS+, that's why I'm asking. It simply doesn't make sense that a simple trophy that can be easly obtained through a guide on YT has a 1% rarity...

[Stardroid]

19 hours ago, shary96 said:

This game in particular had ridicolous percentages even before it went on PS+, that's why I'm asking. It simply doesn't make sense that a simple trophy that can be easly obtained through a guide on YT has a 1% rarity...

The platinum rating was at around 1% (about a week or two after I got mine) and most of speedrun trophies 2%+ when I obtained it when I bought it. The majority of people who play PS+ games don't intend to platinum them at all, which is always why it drops. That and people generally tend to avoid speedrun trophies and this game really isn't for everyone. It's one of those games that just divides opinions and I reckon there were quite a few people who just didn't bother because they didn't enjoy the game. It has some challenging trophies, which is likely while others didn't bother with the easier speedrun trophies. I just don't see why this is a topic of interest or even worthy of discussion. Which is also why I won't really bother replying anymore.

Edited July 30, 2018 by Starlove-

[BG_painter]

On 29/07/2018 at 8:45 AM, shary96 said:

I'm not saying that the game is easy to complete because i can understand the difficulty of the speedrun trophies... but every time that i check my list of rarest tropies I see some of them, like getting all the collectables of a level, so high up on the list surpassing other achievements like the platinum trophy of Catherine (which by the way took me almost 6 months to get while the collectables trophies of bound took me just half an hour).

Why is that?

All threads are welcome in this forum, don't worry
I saw you got the plat, congrats! I got the game but I found it to be very boring. Do you have any tips or used any good videos for the plat?
Maybe there are some tricks i am not aware of.. Feel free to PM me about it ?

[shary96]

12 hours ago, BG_painter said:

All threads are welcome in this forum, don't worry
I saw you got the plat, congrats! I got the game but I found it to be very boring. Do you have any tips or used any good videos for the plat?
Maybe there are some tricks i am not aware of.. Feel free to PM me about it

To be honest, I found Bound very easy to plat, I didn't use tricks or something like that, I simply played the game.

About the collectibles, as I said before I used a guide on YT. Again, there's nothing hard about these trophies.

Level speedruns are doable if you unlock the shortcuts and even if you fail, they're short enough to retry without losing much time; as for the Game speedruns, time is very dilated, so making mistakes is not so penalizing.

The No Death trophy also is doable, play it safely and eventually you arrive at the end. I've obtained it at my third attempt, in the previous ones I died in the same place twice lol

 

On 30/7/2018 at 10:34 AM, Starlove- said:

I just don't see why this is a topic of interest or even worthy of discussion. Which is also why I won't really bother replying anymore.

Yeah but you know, I haven't created this thread just for you ?

[dmland12]

On 7/29/2018 at 10:02 AM, shary96 said:

This game in particular had ridicolous percentages even before it went on PS+, that's why I'm asking. It simply doesn't make sense that a simple trophy that can be easly obtained through a guide on YT has a 1% rarity...

 

I agree.  There's something more going on here than just being on PS+.  Maybe people really really dislike platforming as a dancer?

[Oobedoob S Benubi]

Even with a guide, some of the moves you have to make are pretty nerve wrecking. Even the collectables require a fair bit of work. I did one of the speedruns but after that I stopped.

[Thebishop_Remora]

I also think that peoples who found it not so hard are just very good on platforming.

For exemple; shary96, i'm sure u will say the same about crash bandicoot's platinum trophy, that for u, this is/was an easy plat (which is not rlly the case tbh ><).

Tbh, i got the plat few days ago on Bound and i understand what u mean; it gave me the feeling that it's "doable" too; but for "normal" or casual gamers, i think many of them will never get this platinum; and so u can not say that Bound is so easy to plat.

Not sure if everything i said is understandable, but well ><

 

[Eraezr]

On 7/30/2018 at 1:02 AM, shary96 said:

This game in particular had ridicolous percentages even before it went on PS+,

 

This is true.

I'm not quite sure myself how it all exactly factors. Considering the help resources out there the speed run trophies should not...be harder than time trials like Gran Turismo 5 or Mirrors Edge. I wonder if a unique demograph bought this game. The premise itself is rather unique.

Edited October 26, 2018 by Eraezr

[Esca]

This is pretty easy to explain :

 

Did people enjoy Bound ? Meh... (rarity drop, playing games you like always help you to push further, good games for many peoples have a bigger % than games nobody love that much but it also depend on mixed factors here like difficulty or estimated time )

Bound is difficult for a majority of people ? Yes (rarity drop, we don't care about personnal opinion here, it's difficult for a majority, that all you have to count)

Bound is ps+ ? (rarity drop, self explain)

Bound have a long platinum ? No

 

In this case it's not a very good game for many people and that why he got that rarity if (and only if) you mix with the fact that is difficult for many peoples  :

https://www.google.fr/search?q=bound+review&oq=bound+review&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l2j0l3.1639j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

 

[DeathShark22]

I liked Bound a lot. Beautiful game and a fantastic soundtrack. Most of the platinum is easy, also the 100% run is doable after a few tries. The Cautious trophy however was terrible and did nearly stop me from getting this:D

[lilpain97]

Old but the games just terrible. Boring and the floaty controls ruin it further. Difficulty isn't hard tbh as although its a platformer there's hardly any actual platforming and when there is its just a simple jump to a large platform ( There's a few that require a small hop so holding R2 will fail you )    

 

Speedruns, people HATE Speedruns... Especially trophy hunters and here there's 2. Easy or not sitting an hr or just under an hr trying to get deathless or a time will make most nervous near the end. Sitting 1hr or so just to fail on something that was easy for you ( or a part you practiced ) ain't fun.     

[LaxmiNarayanan]

I gave up due to discomfort. The art style and graphics gave me a headache.

[EDGES]

the game is a visual nightmare to navigate, it's the only game I would 100% delete from my list if I could

[Berrytenor]

I am definitely going to attempt this 100% platinum but am a little intimidated at the low percentages and the speedruns lol I'm pretty good with platformers and I have done some speedruns before but I can tell this one is going to take a while. Currently enjoying other games and then will go to Bound to give it a shot. 

[ChristianHenares]

On 7/29/2018 at 3:28 PM, LuciaRosethorn said:

Rarity doesn't mean anything, it's just the ratio of how many people brought it and how many people got 100%. If only one person brought Super Meat Boy and got the platinum then it would be 100% rarity. I have some games which are hard but because not many people brought it, it seems easy if you're just looking at that.

I'm sorry to disagree. I mean, we can find hard games with a high percentage like the Dark Souls' series, which are not easy, AND ALSO we can find easy games (or kinda easy games) with low percentage like Disney Infinity 1, 2 and 3. I get that.

But usually when you reach these "pro achievement/trophy hunters websites" you're dealing with a lot of people whom work for it and if the game has a low percentage beware and embrace yourself, cuz most probably game is anything but easy.

There are some other games that are not hard, but damn too long and people won't knock that door for wasting a lot of time.

I get your point, but data is data and we can discuss and talk about it.

Short brief:

- Games too long, despite its difficulty.
- Games too hard
- Games on PS+ despite being hard or long
- Games with strange situations like having to farm on 5-6 consoles for a year or having $40.000 in order to get one bronze trophy (Prominence Poker)

These are usually games with a low percentage and it's because objective reasons overall, in my opinion.