[SOLVED] Your voice can be recorded in Parties for moderation purposes

[DrBloodmoney]

BREAKING NEWS: BANANAS NOW YELLOW!

 

They always could. Friends could always record you, sony could always use that for verification. Nothing has changed, aside from your level of awareness.

[Maaden_Swe]

You people who actually care about shit like this really are hilarious. What do you think they are gonna spy on you for, during a voicechat. If it can save one kid from being bullied to death I dont give a fuck that some get upset. 

[Jauk91]

9 hours ago, DaivRules said:

 

Also probably useful to fully quote Sony's actual wording on the matter:

"Please be aware that voice chats in parties may be recorded and sent to us by other users. By participating in voice chats, you agree to your voice being recorded."

Just was i was gonna say. But people these days have a google home, siri or alexa and they are afraid of ps parties beeing recorded by other players.... The before mentioned devices listen to you and gather data about what you say

 

 

[pinkrobot_pb]

To everyone all of a sudden shouting "1984!" about this:

 

What the hell were you doing trusting closed source proprietary voice chat software in the first place?

[sporty_chin8]

Ya know... it doesn’t affect me i guess, since i don’t use my mic for anything other than if I desperately need it for a trophy(some games have coop that require you to use a mic), i still think this is stupid. 

[AffectatiousDonk]

Nice so now not only can you bore the living shit out of all your party mates but you can also hold someone from Sony HQ hostage to your incessant ramble and vague sexual propositions of others mothers.

[Fubuki]

10 hours ago, DaivRules said:

"Please be aware that voice chats in parties may be recorded and sent to us by other users. By participating in voice chats, you agree to your voice being recorded."

Ok but If I join a party to talk with friends, then how the hell am I consenting to being recorded? Those are 2 different things. I consent to join a party to talk with new people but I don't consent to being recorded. It makes me NOT wanna join parties anymore.

[Baka_Marimo]

The privacy concerns are completely legitimate but I find it hilarious how some people are losing their shit because this might stop them swearing and force them to act like civilized human beings for once. That's gotta be tough man.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Baka_Marimo

[Infernopommes]

2 hours ago, Maaden_Swe said:

If it can save one kid from being bullied to death

How can a kid be bullied to death in a PS party, that they can leave at any time? Genuine question.

[Kesme63]

16 minutes ago, Infernopommes said:

How can a kid be bullied to death in a PS party, that they can leave at any time? Genuine question.

Yeah they can leave at any time, but that doesn't mean it won't affect them. They'll still remember what was said to them and some people and kids take that stuff very badly. 

[SepticPhlegm]

Massive over reaction going on here.

 

Just be careful what you say and who you say it to and everything will be fine.

 

 

 

 

[sporty_chin8]

23 minutes ago, Kesme63 said:

Yeah they can leave at any time, but that doesn't mean it won't affect them. They'll still remember what was said to them and some people and kids take that stuff very badly. 

Maybe those people should get some thicker skin? It's PSN. You're never going to meet any of those people in person anyway. They are not that important. Why does what they say bother them anyway? Let that shit bounce right off of you. I mean even if that's what this is all about, consenting to let Sony spy on people to join party chats isn't the way to prevent cyber-bullying. 

[Maaden_Swe]

1 hour ago, Infernopommes said:

How can a kid be bullied to death in a PS party, that they can leave at any time? Genuine question.

 

If you really cant figure that out, you need to read up a bit on mental health and how bullying affect kids emotions. 

[Kesme63]

7 minutes ago, sporty_chin8 said:

Maybe those people should get some thicker skin? (...)

That's not how it works really; you wouldn't say "just get healthy" to a cancer patient. Depressed and anxious people suffer from chemical imbalance of the brain and they can take even smaller negative comments way differently than you would react. The way these comments stick may seem irrational to a healthy person but when you are in that state of mind you sometimes can't detach yourself from these comments. Of course I am generalizing and every person reacts differently but there is no reason to be rude to people and then brush off these comments with "get thicker skin". The topic of cyberbullying is of course way more complex than this.

 

Also, I have to disagree with you that this is not the way. The chances that Sony will be listening to you are probably abysmal, my guess is they will go back and listen only if something is reported. If Sony will go back and sees someone does cyberbully others and can prevent it, then I say good for them. They already have your text messages. 

[DavySuicide]

Me in the past when I am in a chat with my homies: "I hope nobody will ever hear this pile of shit we are talking about night and day"

Sony 2020: "hold my listening device"

 

Joking aside, I guess they give a shit about 99,9% of us, and in modern times, where we can't take a dump without getting tracked, it's just a sidenote, so whatever ?

Edited October 15, 2020 by DavySuicide

[bosstristan]

I find it sad that some people here blast their "you're overreacting", "you're a conspiracy theorist" and so on. Where's the benevolence in that? How wrong is it to worry about our own privacy?

 

If you think this is normal, well, it's not everyone's case. Some people don't want to be listened to. Some people worry about their rights and their future kids' rights. Don't blame them for it. Instead, try to resonate with them telling them that Sony miscommunicated on this and that it's "only" to warn users that other users might record your voice. Be benevolent, and not an know-it-all ass, geez.

[Shadiochao]

28 minutes ago, sporty_chin8 said:

Maybe those people should get some thicker skin? It's PSN. You're never going to meet any of those people in person anyway. They are not that important. Why does what they say bother them anyway? Let that shit bounce right off of you. I mean even if that's what this is all about, consenting to let Sony spy on people to join party chats isn't the way to prevent cyber-bullying. 

 

So your response to a person being bullied to death is "maybe you should get some thicker skin". You obviously have no clue what you're going on about and shouldn't really offer your opinion as if it has any weight.

[Infernopommes]

19 minutes ago, Maaden_Swe said:

 

If you really cant figure that out, you need to read up a bit on mental health and how bullying affect kids emotions. 

Are you calling me uneducated? You are giving me the impression that you are looking down at me because you know about something that I don't. That's some potential bullying right there and could prevent me from asking questions in the future to learn more if I don't understand something.

But I guess it's okay when YOU do it.

 

 

EDIT:

In all seriousness though, comparing bullying to joining a random party, hearing two sentences and leaving is a bit much. As for kids, it's the responsibility of parents to explain and control what they do on the internet (depending on which age we're talking about).

Edited October 15, 2020 by Infernopommes

[Kesme63]

6 minutes ago, Infernopommes said:

EDIT:

In all seriousness though, comparing bullying to joining a random party, hearing two sentences and leaving is a bit much. As for kids, it's the responsibility of parents to explain and control what they do on the internet (depending on which age we're talking about).

I agree that parents should have awareness of what their children are doing, however kids want to take part in chats too and I think blaming kids for actions of adults who can't behave is not fair. We should teach people not to bully and insult, not say 'don't participate' to kids.

[neospoon]

The title of this topic is very misleading..

I don't think I have anything to worry about.

 

Here's a thought for people worrying about their privacy.

The moment you signed up for PSN, they already got your information.

The moment you linked your CC to your account they got more information;

The moment you decided to post all your trophy progress on forums or facebook or whatever, they got more information

That one time you linked your PSN to a twitch account... they got more information. 

 

I dont think they will ban you for having a normal conversation including F-bombs while playing with your friends. 

If you're that concerned, use discord, which is another company that already has your information and probably records too. 

Might as well get rid of your cellphones all online accounts and what not if you're THAT concerned about your privacy.

 

Just my opinion, feel free to disagree I don't mind...

 

[Infernopommes]

4 minutes ago, Kesme63 said:

I agree that parents should have awareness of what their children are doing, however kids want to take part in chats too and I think blaming kids for actions of adults who can't behave is not fair.

I never blamed any kid, what.

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We should teach people not to bully and insult, not say 'don't participate' to kids.

We should also teach people not to break into other people's houses. I prefer to just lock my door though.

Try to let your car stand around with open doors, and get the money back from your insurance when it got stolen, because "it shouldn't be my responsibility to lock it, we should just teach people to not steal cars".

We can tell kids to only participate in parties with their friends.

We can prepare kids for rude people, and tell them that they don't have to take it seriously and always come to an adult they trust to tell what happend.

Obviously nobody wants to be on the receiving end of mean things and it would be great if they didn't happen, but pretending we have to educate the perpetrators instead of preparing for such circumstances, is a bit naive in my view.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Infernopommes

[bosstristan]

Edited both the title and the OP to avoid confusion.

[Kesme63]

1 minute ago, Infernopommes said:

I never blamed any kid, what.

I'm not saying you did specifically, I'm not talking personally about you. I'm talking abou the stance I think we should take.

 

3 minutes ago, Infernopommes said:

We should also teach people not to break into other people's houses. I prefer to just lock my door though.

We can tell kids to only participate in parties with their friends.

We can prepare kids for rude people, and tell them that they don't have to take it seriously and always come to an adult they trust to tell what happend.

Yeah I agree, let's do both. I was taught at school about the dangers of the internet and people that are on their and I'm sure they still warn kids at schools. I just don't think it's that much to ask people to be civilized when playing a game with other people. 

[VanHyperCure]

12 hours ago, totallycrushed said:

Let's get all on VPN hopping and Tor IRC chat rooms to boost games dood!

Hahaha, that would be sick. Finally some privacy. 

[Dauersack]

1 hour ago, Shadiochao said:

 

So your response to a person being bullied to death is "maybe you should get some thicker skin". You obviously have no clue what you're going on about and shouldn't really offer your opinion as if it has any weight.

I come from an era when getting bullied actually meant getting physically beat up for looking different or talking weird, or simply because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time or had a funny name, at the absolute minimum a bully victim was forced to spend a lot of time near his or her tormentors in school and take a ton of verbal abuse, as no person in charge was really giving a damn about these things, no option to just escape the situation at will, the options were to take it or to fight back. Having witnessed what actual bullying can do to some people, I gotta say you describing potentially hearing a few mean words online from complete strangers you will never see or hear again as "being bullied to death" is absolutely laughable to me and tells me that it is in fact your opinion on the matter that is not worth taking seriously due to an obvious and severe lack of knowledge about how bad real bullying can really be for someone, because people who have ever witnessed actual bullying do not compare it to something like this.

 

Online bullying is a joke term and I imagine comparing it to real life bullying is damn disrespectful to victims who would have probably given one of their limbs to have the option to just end any of these situations with a quick button press. There is a mute button online, a block button and every option to escape the situation in about 2 seconds by leaving if it makes one uncomfortable, so yes, these people should indeed grow a thicker skin. Hell, I'd say they NEED to, because if they can't handle any kind of negative reaction whatsoever despite the option to instantly end the situation with the click of a single button, then they will be unsuitable to make it through real life, because what they will have to go through in public, school or their workplace will likely be much more severe than a quick insult from an anonymous stranger. There is no mute button or ban option in those situations, no safe spaces, so if someone is that fragile I'd recommend therapy for a weak mind and strong pills for people suffering from chemical imbalances due to real depression. I obviously don't condone insulting random people on psn, though I rather get insulted by randoms I don't give a damn about than to have a potential ban happen because I jokingly called my buddy an assclown in a private psn conversation when he tells me about a dumb thing he did.