Initial thoughts after 16 hours playtime

[SzzPS]

Hello, I thought I’d share my initial thoughts after playing the game for 16 hours so far. 
 

First of all I’d highly suggest not being deterred from the plat you can make it no where near the 500+ hours that’s supposedly required. If you really felt like you got everything out of the game you can filter missions and join in near the end and get full XP and reward this will lower the time exponentially ( however I’d recommend doing this only when you have gold promotions left), why? The reason being this game truly is an experience if it’s not obvious enough from my profile I love FPS, after seeing the trailers and gameplay for this game I thought it would be a pile of crap… wow was I wrong so let’s get into it.

 

This game is advertised and sold as a full co op experience which it is don’t get me wrong but for all you people thinking solo isn’t an option it IS, I’ve played 10 out of my 16 hours solo the other 6 just playing with randoms and I’ll tell you this game is the perfect put some music on and just play game. Solo of course will be more difficult (I found the hard way doing the 3 dreadnoughts in 30 seconds trophy solo), but it’s just as fun as co op, pulling off some crazy manoeuvres with the zip line to get an what you think is an unreachable pile of gold is just as fulfilling doing it solo as it is with your team mates watching you. This game is intense solo. Hazard zone 4 when you’re fighting dreadnoughts is an experience I can’t put on any other game fighting to your last bit of ammo and shields and having to run to that drop pod is the scariest run of your life ?  that’s the solo experience so let’s talk about the co op.

 

The co op experience is the solo experience just amplified and you have your friends/team mates with you. I can’t quite describe how funny it is watching your team mates accidentally dismount a zip line from 100 metres in the air and fall to their death needing a revive, either that or the one who thinks they’re Batman using the grappling hook to fly into the air and of course miss and fall to their death too ? that’s not the only humour the banter between the dwarves while limited but when spoken is hilarious. This game works extremely well and is the ultimate co op experience, delegating tasks to your team mates and splitting up to mine but re grouping to hold off that swarm is just as intense the first time and the next 50 times I’ve done it.

Also what I love is basically everything is SHARED!!! What do I mean? We’re on a trophy website so let me tell you that for the trophies for example the damned RNG minerals (bittergem, alien artefacts and compressed gold chunks), if ONE member collects them everyone gets the progress same for many other trophies. I feel a lot of people didn’t or don’t know this and this could put them off this game. The sound and level design is amazing some of it feels like something straight out of Returnal which I’m personally all for, some of the cave systems are extremely intricate and will you have turning your head thinking where TF am I but that’s part of the game you just pull out your scanner and plot your course back on track!

The weapons all feel different and unique nothing feels the same. There’s a bunch of different mission types to choose from too there’s always something to do honestly I can’t describe how well made this game is.

 

The game so far hasn’t had or showcased any bugs from itself to me it runs extremely well and looks beautiful on the PS5, it’s cross platform so you can play with your PS4 friends and vice Versa. One more thing I’d like to touch on is the randoms. From what I’ve gathered everyone is new and if someone messes up they’re extremely nice and I even managed to go on mic a few times to get people to do trophies. If you like PS5 accolades which I do I’m sure you’ll get a bunch from this game.

 

I would honestly say if you think this game is some extreme grind don’t, give it a chance and play it, it’s no where near the 500 hours that’s going around if you don’t want it to be. This is an incredibly fun and unique experience and it’s a shame people will miss out because “the plat takes too long, just think of it like this you don’t have to get the plat now in a week a month or a year. Play this amazing game and experience what a lot of us are experiencing and I’m sure you’ll change your mind you’ll get the plat whenever you get it and if that’s what really matters to you, you’ll get it just put in the time and effort and the game will reward you with a ton of memories and the plat I’m sure.

 

I would like to add there are deep dives which are a part of the DLC (included with the game). The elite deep dive is supposed to be a really fun and difficult challenge (think of destiny raids), I personally can’t wait to get my dwarf promoted and try these out. There’s something here for everyone if you wanna be casual or go hard at it and see if you can tackle the challenges the game offers.

 

Thanks for reading everyone, hopefully I can sway a few minds.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 5, 2022 by SzzPS

[ET3RNAL_KOMBAT83]

Nice, honest in depth perspective on a lot of things! Good stuff man! Definitely sounds more enjoyable than the few rounds I tried playing earlier. I was so confused! Haha, but enjoyed it just the same. ??

[Helyx]

3 hours ago, SzzPS said:

you don’t have to get the plat now in a week a month or a year

 

My main issue with grindy games (it's a grind, let's be honest) like this is we (the community) have zero guarantee the game will be supported in a year. That means completionists (most of us around here are) won't even touch the game until it's been well documented to be bug-free and the 100% is consistently possible.

 

By the time some players start earning the 100% (late February I'd assume), those of us that were interested might try it out if the completion time is below 250 hours.

 

Having said all that, what I've seen of the game looks badass. Lots of love went into development and the passion behind this project is immediately obvious. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

[dadoudelidou]

19 minutes ago, Helyx said:

 

My main issue with grindy games (it's a grind, let's be honest) like this is we (the community) have zero guarantee the game will be supported in a year. That means completionists (most of us around here are) won't even touch the game until it's been well documented to be bug-free and the 100% is consistently possible.

 

By the time some players start earning the 100% (late February I'd assume), those of us that were interested might try it out if the completion time is below 250 hours.

 

Having said all that, what I've seen of the game looks badass. Lots of love went into development and the passion behind this project is immediately obvious. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

 

 

Solved the problem, I started playing the game on my secondary account, just for fun, not thinking about the Plat. 

 

So far the experience is incredible, I play 2 person coop with the game public and always had people joining the team.  Each mission you want to explore deeper and when the hordes arrive.. Braces yourself dwarfs.. The party begins. 

 

The best way I could think of the game is like No Man's Sky and Doom had a bastard child.  It is that fantastic. 

[P-L-E-K]

@SzzPS

 

Are you sure about "everything is shared"?

I played with a mate 4 misisons yesterday.
I got 4 trophies, he got none.
According to the menu also no progress...
Did we do something wrong or is there another reason?

 

thx

[VoltrefferNL]

I love it as well! Got a full team together yesterday and what a blast we had! Figured everything out now, so going forward it should be a bith smoother!

[HuntingFever]

1 hour ago, P-L-E-K said:

@SzzPS

 

Are you sure about "everything is shared"?

I played with a mate 4 misisons yesterday.
I got 4 trophies, he got none.
According to the menu also no progress...
Did we do something wrong or is there another reason?

 

thx

For the XB1 version at any rate, several trophies were Host only, according to a post on TrueAchievements.com ?.

 

5 hours ago, Helyx said:

 

My main issue with grindy games (it's a grind, let's be honest) like this is we (the community) have zero guarantee the game will be supported in a year. That means completionists (most of us around here are) won't even touch the game until it's been well documented to be bug-free and the 100% is consistently possible.

 

By the time some players start earning the 100% (late February I'd assume), those of us that were interested might try it out if the completion time is below 250 hours.

 

Having said all that, what I've seen of the game looks badass. Lots of love went into development and the passion behind this project is immediately obvious. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

This game is going to get NMS levels of support for several years to come so you have nothing to worry about there .

Edited January 5, 2022 by HuntingFever
Fixed typo.

[CptToffer]

Great in depth analysis of the game that I agree with based on my 30 hours of PC play. 

 

I would not worry about dev support. These guys have gone through Early Access via Steam and charged nothing for extra content, updates, DLC etc. Furthermore they've just released the first "Season" on the PC, where you can get new missions, collectables and so forth, free of charge. They've made it quite clear they don't think paid for DLC is the way forward and they're very committed to DRG. 

 

It is a fantastic game and I can safely say the solo mode is great fun and if I do start going for the platinum (looking more and more likely) I will start with the 100 solo missions trophy to get it done. Bosco to the rescue! 

 

 

Edited January 5, 2022 by CptToffer

[SzzPS]

10 hours ago, ET3RNAL_KOMBAT83 said:

Nice, honest in depth perspective on a lot of things! Good stuff man! Definitely sounds more enjoyable than the few rounds I tried playing earlier. I was so confused! Haha, but enjoyed it just the same.

Thank you! 

6 hours ago, Helyx said:

By the time some players start earning the 100% (late February I'd assume), those of us that were interested might try it out if the completion time is below 250 hours.

Thanks for your nice comments and that is true with it possibly not being supported in a year but the way they’ve gone about it the past 2 years I’d honestly say it’s safe  but of course no one could ever know and the time to 100% can be way lower if people utilise just joining games at the end ofc not the most fun way but the most efficient but still would you leave at 200-300 hours which is still quite a lot!

2 hours ago, P-L-E-K said:

@SzzPS

 

Are you sure about "everything is shared"?

Hey not quite literally everything is shared there’s still things you have to do yourself, I meant as in like the rare minerals trophies, fixing MULES and dreadnought trophies are shared progress. I know this because someone in my game picked up an alien artefact but I have 1/5 progress for it. 

 

1 hour ago, HuntingFever said:

For the XB1 version at any rate, several trophies were Host only, according to a post on TrueAchievements.com .

I managed to get “Party time”, while not being the host which according to TA was a host only trophy ? 

 

47 minutes ago, CptToffer said:

Great in depth analysis of the game that I agree with based on my 30 hours of PC play. 

Thank you very much!

[HusKy]

3 hours ago, P-L-E-K said:

@SzzPS

 

Are you sure about "everything is shared"?

I played with a mate 4 misisons yesterday.
I got 4 trophies, he got none.
According to the menu also no progress...
Did we do something wrong or is there another reason?

 

This interests me as well. I'm hoping the progress is shared equally, especially for missions.

 

You earned 5 trophies total, 3 of them related to barrels which are most likely not shared.

Your coop partner should have earned the 2 trophies that are not highlighted, right?

 

[solidsnake_cs]

I was kind of worried about the grind thing. But after trying it I really liked the game and I don't care about, lets say, 200-300 hours of gameplay to get 100% if it just come by naturally playing the game.

 

Talking about that, do you have any idea which trophies won't come naturally and you have to work for it?

[CptToffer]

12 minutes ago, solidsnake_cs said:

I was kind of worried about the grind thing. But after trying it I really liked the game and I don't care about, lets say, 200-300 hours of gameplay to get 100% if it just come by naturally playing the game.

 

Talking about that, do you have any idea which trophies won't come naturally and you have to work for it?

 

 

Off the top of my head, some of the difficulty ones won't come naturally because there isn't a requirement to up the difficulty. Same for the Elite stuff. 

 

There's also some specifics like riding the digger for a period of time with everyone shooting a certain amount of bugs. It 'may' occur but it also may not, if that makes sense 

[SzzPS]

15 minutes ago, solidsnake_cs said:

I was kind of worried about the grind thing. But after trying it I really liked the game and I don't care about, lets say, 200-300 hours of gameplay to get 100% if it just come by naturally playing the game.

 

Talking about that, do you have any idea which trophies won't come naturally and you have to work for it?

Hey, if I’m being honest the only one I don’t think anyone could get naturally or would very difficult to get naturally is “car pool”, the chances of playing with randoms or even friends would be hard to do without co ordination. 
 

As for this everyone gets progress for missions completed. The barrel trophies are shared too, killing enemy types as long as you put damage, the 3 mineral related ones, kick 10 barrels  if someone does it just kick 1 more and the 3000 points if one person gets the 3K just get 1 more point to get, put barrels in launch and drop pod are shared too. So in conclusion you get progress or unlock the majority of stuff for other players actions ??

1 hour ago, HusKy said:

 

This interests me as well. I'm hoping the progress is shared equally, especially for missions.

Edited January 5, 2022 by SzzPS

[solidsnake_cs]

11 minutes ago, CptToffer said:

 

 

Off the top of my head, some of the difficulty ones won't come naturally because there isn't a requirement to up the difficulty. Same for the Elite stuff. 

 

There's also some specifics like riding the digger for a period of time with everyone shooting a certain amount of bugs. It 'may' occur but it also may not, if that makes sense 

 

So it seems a boosting section will be needed for some trophies, glad those don't seem too time consuming.

[CptToffer]

2 minutes ago, solidsnake_cs said:

 

So it seems a boosting section will be needed for some trophies, glad those don't seem too time consuming.

 

I think the main grind is going to be getting all Dwarfs to gold promotion. I'm sure that takes a bloody long time but I could be wrong. Got no idea of a total time but that is going to be the grindy bit I think. 

 

Still on the fence about whether to start it ??

[Vern3r0z]

btw are the trophy dlc's included in the main game?

EDIT: nevermind looks like this was answered in the other thread

Edited January 5, 2022 by Vern3r0z

[Bkos-mosX]

Played a few hours of the game yesterday.

I ended up disliking the game, so it a pass for me. I'm not a huge fan of FPS though, so my opinion doesn't mean much.
 

Although, the game seems way more fun playing in coop with friends. Playing with random people will provably be a drag in the hardest missions.

[solidsnake_cs]

1 hour ago, Bkos-mosX said:

Played a few hours of the game yesterday.

I ended up disliking the game, so it a pass for me. I'm not a huge fan of FPS though, so my opinion doesn't mean much.
 

Although, the game seems way more fun playing in coop with friends. Playing with random people will provably be a drag in the hardest missions.

 

I'm not a big fan of FPS either. But after playing it I realised its more about exploration than shooting, so thats why I liked it.

[CptToffer]

55 minutes ago, solidsnake_cs said:

 

I'm not a big fan of FPS either. But after playing it I realised its more about exploration than shooting, so thats why I liked it.

 

Yeah it's a very subtle blend of both. Some of the boss fights are tough though.

 

2 hours ago, Bkos-mosX said:

Played a few hours of the game yesterday.

I ended up disliking the game, so it a pass for me. I'm not a huge fan of FPS though, so my opinion doesn't mean much.
 

Although, the game seems way more fun playing in coop with friends. Playing with random people will provably be a drag in the hardest missions.

 

Yeah. For the hardest missions/trophies you'll need a team of folk you've played with a while I reckon. 

[PillowGamer]

Couldn't agree more. I'm really into the game and just can't stop playing lol.

[HuntingFever]

I'm approx 20hrs in and so far i'm loving it . This has the potential to become another form of crack for gamers, because it's a very addictive game.

[CptToffer]

Excellent. I've downloaded it and I'm genuinely considering starting it, like a total lunatic. 

[Kefka1986]

17 minutes ago, CptToffer said:

Excellent. I've downloaded it and I'm genuinely considering starting it, like a total lunatic. 

 

Same for me! The more gameplays I see, the more I'm considering it. Maybe I'll never get the platinum, but it seems so fun!

[cusman]

On 1/5/2022 at 0:04 AM, Helyx said:

 

My main issue with grindy games (it's a grind, let's be honest) like this is we (the community) have zero guarantee the game will be supported in a year. That means completionists (most of us around here are) won't even touch the game until it's been well documented to be bug-free and the 100% is consistently possible.

 

By the time some players start earning the 100% (late February I'd assume), those of us that were interested might try it out if the completion time is below 250 hours.

 

Having said all that, what I've seen of the game looks badass. Lots of love went into development and the passion behind this project is immediately obvious. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

 

This game was originally released in 2018 on PC Steam. The developers have a long history of continually updating and improving and adding new content. I played the game a couple of years ago on PC and I can see how much they have continued to improve and polish in the PS4 / PS5 release.

 

I think you can expect it will be properly supported as long as there are sufficient player base and this is the type of game that creates a stable player base that sticks around for a long time.

[CptToffer]

2 hours ago, cusman said:

 

This game was originally released in 2018 on PC Steam. The developers have a long history of continually updating and improving and adding new content. I played the game a couple of years ago on PC and I can see how much they have continued to improve and polish in the PS4 / PS5 release.

 

I think you can expect it will be properly supported as long as there are sufficient player base and this is the type of game that creates a stable player base that sticks around for a long time.

 

 

Totally agreed. There is no reason to think this won't be supported. 

2 hours ago, Kefka1986 said:

 

Same for me! The more gameplays I see, the more I'm considering it. Maybe I'll never get the platinum, but it seems so fun!

 

I have got my first trophy. It has begun!