Popular Post Master_Mayhem_ Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 I can understand transferring saved data from PS4 to ps5 but if you haven’t earned the trophies then is that not classed as cheating? You only earn 1 trophy per trophy description and this makes a mockery of people’s 100% completion times as most auto popping completion times are seconds. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EDGES Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 you already did the work, nothing to cheat about, if you did it once, yu can do it again, it's just saving time 102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EAFC_Rico Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 If the game auto pops the trophies then how is someone supposed to avoid this from happening? If they load up the game and it pops the trophies then there is no way to avoid it so can't be classed as cheating. If they have legit earned the trophy in a different version of the game then they have met the requirements for the trophy... 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiCBZ Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, THE DARK KNIGHT said: you already did the work, nothing to cheat about, if you did it once, yu can do it again, it's just saving time Not necessarily, think about super hard trophies. You may be able to pull them off just once, and that's it. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bezenko Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 It’s a feature provided by Sony, so labeling it as cheating wouldn’t make much sense. If they should be eligible for fastest achiever however is another discussion. I can totally understand it being frustrating being dethroned by an autopopped list and I can’t really see how anyone would be bothered by being removed from fastest achiever with their 1 sec platinum. They didn’t put that much effort into it. Then again, probably many edge-cases with partially auto-popped lists which would make it hard to moderate 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EDGES Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, KenjiCBZ said: Not necessarily, think about super hard trophies. You may be able to pull them off just once, and that's it. that's nonsense 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mega-tallica Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 Because it's not? You already earned the platinum on the PS4, why would you go through the effort just to re-do a platinum you already did when you can just auto-pop it? That's why it exists. It's not cheating, I'd rather auto-pop a platinum for a game I already spent time and earned it on than playing all these super easy, quick games just to get a platinum and to artificially inflate your trophy numbers. That's more cheating than auto-popping to me. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiCBZ Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, THE DARK KNIGHT said: that's nonsense How is it? Honestly, I don't think I can ever beat Zico's time in Wipeout Omega Collection ever again. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wheezy Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) . Edited November 2, 2022 by Wheezy 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mori Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mega-tallica said: Because it's not? You already earned the platinum on the PS4, why would you go through the effort just to re-do a platinum you already did when you can just auto-pop it? That's why it exists. It's not cheating, I'd rather auto-pop a platinum for a game I already spent time and earned it on than playing all these super easy, quick games just to get a platinum and to artificially inflate your trophy numbers. That's more cheating than auto-popping to me. Auto-popping just for the sake of auto-popping is stupid and only "artificially inflates" your trophy numbers (as well). People can do whatever they want, but I'll never understand when people buy (new) games just to auto-pop instead of enjoying the games with better graphics/performances. For example I wonder how many people actually did at least one playthrough of Uncharted 4 / Uncharted LL remaster. Edited February 1, 2022 by Mori 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Master_Mayhem_ Posted February 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, mega-tallica said: Because it's not? You already earned the platinum on the PS4, why would you go through the effort just to re-do a platinum you already did when you can just auto-pop it? That's why it exists. It's not cheating, I'd rather auto-pop a platinum for a game I already spent time and earned it on than playing all these super easy, quick games just to get a platinum and to artificially inflate your trophy numbers. That's more cheating than auto-popping to me. But you didn’t earn 2x platinum trophies. You put the effort in to complete one game but get the trophies for 2. This also devalues the auto popped trophies, meaning an ultra rare/rare trophy get devalued if less people play said and more pop the trophies 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EDGES Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KenjiCBZ said: How is it? Honestly, I don't think I can ever beat Zico's time in Wipeout Omega Collection ever again. then you should hide that game from your profile, cause it's something you can't do anyway right? that's not fair to have something on your account you can't do, this is called a logic loop, you can spin it however you want, the facts are that you earned that trophy, and if there's a feature that will recognize that, like autopop, there's nothing cheating about it Edited February 1, 2022 by THE DARK KNIGHT 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Master_Mayhem_ Posted February 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 I know I can look at my trophy list and know that I earned them all by playing the game from beginning to end. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post willmill97 Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 As much as I hate the idea of auto-popping and will never do it as like others have said, it's a feature implemented by Sony, so it can't be considered cheating. However, I'm sure even auto-poppers can agree that auto-popped plats should be removed from fastest achievers. 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiCBZ Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, THE DARK KNIGHT said: then you should hide that game from your profile, cause it's something you can't do anyway right? that's not fair to have something on your account you can't do, this is called a logic loop, you can spin it however you want, the facts are that you earned that trophy, and if there's a feature that will recognize that, like autopop, there's nothing cheating about it WTF I completely disagree, but ok, to each their own 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmosNights Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bezenko said: It’s a feature provided by Sony, so labeling it as cheating wouldn’t make much sense. If they should be eligible for fastest achiever however is another discussion. I can totally understand it being frustrating being dethroned by an autopopped list and I can’t really see how anyone would be bothered by being removed from fastest achiever with their 1 sec platinum. They didn’t put that much effort into it. Then again, probably many edge-cases with partially auto-popped lists which would make it hard to moderate This basically. Auto-popping is an intended feature of the trophy system so it's not really controversial on its own 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrBloodmoney Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Because there's a difference between sleazy and outright illegal. Auto-popping can't be considered cheating, as it's unavoidable in some games (Hitman 3 for example, but I'm sure there are others,) and it's not obfuscating Sony-implimented policies, it's just using them for an unintended, but still acceptable secondary purpose. There are plenty of things that are not 'standard' practice for earning trophies that are still acceptable within the community - having foreign accounts to get multiple region stacks / playing on "alt" accounts to preserve completion percentages / boosting / share-play...hell, even using guides is not technically "in the spirit" of gaming achievement... but none of those could be considered "cheating". In the end, if you don't like Auto-popping, just don't do it - (personally, I tend to avoid it where I can, though I'm not extremist about it, and didn't get troubled when Hitman 3 decided it was gonna do it for me!) - but outside of this site's specific rules, you can't expect others to be beholden to your own standards. All you can do is adhere to them yourself, and be happy with that. 51 minutes ago, Mori said: Auto-popping just for the sake of auto-popping is stupid and only "artificially inflates" your trophy numbers (as well). People can do whatever they want, but I'll never understand if people buy (new) games just to auto-pop instead of enjoying the games with better graphics/performances. For example I wonder how many people actually did at least one playthrough of Uncharted 4/ Uncharted LL remaster. This I totally agree with - I'm always baffled by folks that have a PS5, but would rather play the PS4 version, so they can get double trophies out of it, than play the best version of the game - but then, I don't really see the trophies as the goal, just as the tangential effect. It's the game experience that matters most to me - the trophies are just a record of it Edited February 1, 2022 by DrBloodmoney 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grifteskymfning Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 This discussion has been going on since the days of Sly Cooper, SoundShapes and Motorstorm RC on PS3 and Vita and it will keep going on well into PS6, PS7, ViitaU and DekaVita 8. Give it a fucking rest. Let people play however they want. What other people do to their platinums will never "devalue" yours. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezy Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) . Edited November 2, 2022 by Wheezy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiCBZ Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mori said: Auto-popping just for the sake of auto-popping is stupid and only "artificially inflates" your trophy numbers (as well). People can do whatever they want, but I'll never understand when people buy (new) games just to auto-pop instead of enjoying the games with better graphics/performances. For example I wonder how many people actually did at least one playthrough of Uncharted 4 / Uncharted LL remaster. Agree. I see no difference between this and the various ezpz stuff ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GUDGER666 Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 Does it really matter, just focus on your own gaming instead of how other play. Not many people really care about how fast you got all the trophies. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grifteskymfning Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Master_Mayhem_ said: I know I can look at my trophy list and know that I earned them all by playing the game from beginning to end. The please continue looking at your trophy list and stop caring about what other people's lists look like, this is the root of your problem. I want to climb on the leaderboards, but I would never buy a digital game, so imagine how hard it is for me to keep up when people get ten platinums in nine minutes for eight dollars. The solution? Stop caring about everyone else. TL;DR, you do you, boo. Edited February 1, 2022 by grifteskymfning 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaivRules Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, Master_Mayhem_ said: I can understand transferring saved data from PS4 to ps5 but if you haven’t earned the trophies then is that not classed as cheating? You only earn 1 trophy per trophy description and this makes a mockery of people’s 100% completion times as most auto popping completion times are seconds. 12 minutes ago, Master_Mayhem_ said: But you didn’t earn 2x platinum trophies. You put the effort in to complete one game but get the trophies for 2. This also devalues the auto popped trophies, meaning an ultra rare/rare trophy get devalued if less people play said and more pop the trophies 11 minutes ago, Master_Mayhem_ said: I know I can look at my trophy list and know that I earned them all by playing the game from beginning to end. You’re conflating the value you want trophies to have/represent to you and what the site has designated as “cheating.” Cheating rules all revolve around not playing a game as implemented by Sony/developers. Auto-pop is a system intentionally implemented by Sony and developers. They want their games to function that way. So it’s not cheating. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmill97 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Would a feature to remove auto-poopers from fastest achievers ever be able to be a thing? @HusKy Edited February 1, 2022 by willmill97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Mayhem_ Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, grifteskymfning said: The please continue looking at your trophy list and stop caring about what other people's lists look like, this is the root of your problem. I want to climb on the leaderboards, but I would never buy a digital game, so imagine how hard it is for me to keep up when people get ten in nine minutes for eight dollars. The solution? Stop caring about everyone else. TL;DR, you do you, boo. Very true. I just don’t understand but maybe I never will. I just looked on the ps5 forum and the top post was people listing games with the ability to auto pop trophies and it just made me question a few things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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