Top Hat Studios issues statement saying they will not censor Sense - 不祥的预感: A Cyberpunk Ghost Story

[Armymed101]

It makes me so mad to hear that SJW's go off on Twitter to try and shame a company. We shouldn't have to censor art, which video games are. I think that it's great that the Dev's are pushing back. I had no idea this was even a thing and now that hate they created is making me even more interested!

[MandA60VISE]

From the Steam page:

"A 2.5D horror game inspired by Clock Tower and Fatal Frame..."

 

I'm always hesitant to try games that say something like that. I haven't played Clock Tower but I don't get the same sense of Fatal Frame from this. Also, isn't 2.5D 3D models stuck on a 2D plane? This is more 2D models on a 3D plane. It could mean both, I don't know.

[Elvick_]

1 hour ago, Dr_Mayus said:

Has anyone ever wondered if all these small time devs create this controversy to rack up sales?

 

Like I never heard of this company or game but supposedly they are big enough to receive death threats?

 

I think the Internet needs to stop pretending these type of things are news because it is all part of the game. Just like Paris Hilton was so "outraged" that her sex tape leaked since it led to her having a very profitable career.

Case in point

These same guys offered to help release Red Candle’s Devotion. 
 

while scepticism is fine, sometimes when you’re ignorant of something... it’s just because you’re ignorant. I’ve seen them on steam a lot In my daily recommender even before the Red Candle stuff. 

 

[Dr_Mayus]

24 minutes ago, Armymed101 said:

It makes me so mad to hear that SJW's go off on Twitter to try and shame a company. We shouldn't have to censor art, which video games are. I think that it's great that the Dev's are pushing back. I had no idea this was even a thing and now that hate they created is making me even more interested!

Lol, my point keeps getting proved more and more ?

 

This whole thread is hilarious.

2 minutes ago, Elvick_ said:

These same guys offered to help release Red Candle’s Devotion. 
 

while scepticism is fine, sometimes when you’re ignorant of something... it’s just because you’re ignorant. I’ve seen them on steam a lot In my daily recommender even before the Red Candle stuff. 

 

Harvey Weinstein also helped release great films as well. I am not comparing this company to Harvey Weinstein but just pointing out that because you do one thing doesn't mean you aren't guilty of the other.

 

No company deserves death threats but also basically everyone on the Internet has gotten a death threat at one point in time (even I). I googled their game and instantly was reminded of Newgrounds circa 2002. I am not saying they are faking it but now 3 people said they would check out the game ONLY because of the controversy...that is the point I was proving.

 

All I am saying is the game looks average at best and they threw big boobed girls in and references to silent hill and fatal frame because they know that shit will help sell their game.

[Guest]

Gg. Against violence but kill the devs promoting violence themselves. Qq

[Eraezr]

38 minutes ago, MandA60VISE said:

From the Steam page:

"A 2.5D horror game inspired by Clock Tower and Fatal Frame..."

 

I'm always hesitant to try games that say something like that. I haven't played Clock Tower but I don't get the same sense of Fatal Frame from this. Also, isn't 2.5D 3D models stuck on a 2D plane? This is more 2D models on a 3D plane. It could mean both, I don't know.

 

I know "2.5D" has been used to describe the mechanics of Guilty Gear Xrd's graphics where it uses 3D models to emulate the illusion of 2D sprites.

[scemopagliaccioh]

1 hour ago, Dr_Mayus said:

Has anyone ever wondered if all these small time devs create this controversy to rack up sales?

 

Like I never heard of this company or game but supposedly they are big enough to receive death threats?

 

I think the Internet needs to stop pretending these type of things are news because it is all part of the game. Just like Paris Hilton was so "outraged" that her sex tape leaked since it led to her having a very profitable career.

Case in point

Death threats have been extremely  common since the dawn of the internet, it's only recently that people glorified their importance, or lack thereof.

[Elvick_]

16 minutes ago, Dr_Mayus said:

Harvey Weinstein also helped release great films as well. I am not comparing this company to Harvey Weinstein but just pointing out that because you do one thing doesn't mean you aren't guilty of the other.

 

No company deserves death threats but also basically everyone on the Internet has gotten a death threat at one point in time (even I). I googled their game and instantly was reminded of Newgrounds circa 2002. I am not saying they are faking it but now 3 people said they would check out the game ONLY because of the controversy...that is the point I was proving.

 

All I am saying is the game looks average at best and they threw big boobed girls in and references to silent hill and fatal frame because they know that shit will help sell their game.

The fuck does Weinstein have to do with anything? You said you've never heard of them, I pointed out a recent example of them getting their name out there. Then stated I had already heard of them before that. Just because you're ignorant of something doesn't mean the reason you finally hear about them is a lie. It's not even a healthy amount of skepticism it's just cynicism.

 

I don't care what other people do or why they look into or decide to buy a game. It's not my money.

 

All I'm saying is that just because you hadn't heard of the company before doesn't mean they're lying for attention. Whether they are or not is probably something we'd never be able to prove. I'd disagree with the way they handled it because I know how the internet works. And even if it were true, addressing it will just increase it. The same way that telling someone to not say "♥" on the internet is going to result in multiple people popping up to tell you to "shut up, ♥". The only way to win is to report them and move on. So regardless of why they decided to address it, whether if true or a lie, I'd disagree on that. And I sure wouldn't base how I react on my own ignorance. There are so many gaming companies out there, at some point you're going to run into one you haven't heard of being talked about for some reason. It doesn't mean it's a conspiracy just because you never heard of them before then.

[Shadiochao]

I have my doubts that this game generated any amount of significant attention, let alone death threats and calls for violence. If people made threats over large-breasted characters in video games they'd have a full-time job on their hands sending them all out.

 

Pretty sure this is just to drum up some controversy and instant-buys from the right-wing crowd who will now support this game to "own" the other side.

[Gamer-Girl-Noire]

this feels like they made this up to drum up controversy as the right wing gamer chud bros on twitter love to atleast claim to buy these games to own the sjws.

 

the amount of times you see these companies with barely any name to them when they make a game about violence or have big tiddy girls in it they always seem to supposedly get this kinda controversy. from the sounds of it sending death threats and stuff is now a full time job. 

[Eraezr]

...so no one has any evidence they’re making this up. OK. 

[ClausValca]

I can't even find a single instance of twitter's typical hate mob even mentioning this game. Not even resetera has a thread on it and they love to go after games that have the "Anime porn" aesthetic. Do you even have evidence of them receiving death threats or people going on a crusade to censor them?

[Elvick_]

33 minutes ago, ClausValca said:

I can't even find a single instance of twitter's typical hate mob even mentioning this game. Not even resetera has a thread on it and they love to go after games that have the "Anime porn" aesthetic. Do you even have evidence of them receiving death threats or people going on a crusade to censor them?

I mean there's plenty replying in here. Not sure why people would doubt that part of it specifically. Twitter whines about a lot of dumb shit, "oh no this person used a skin tone one shade too dark for their Animal Crossing character they're racist!" And many of the "hate mob" as you call them are from the 30th.

 

Edited January 2, 2021 by Elvick_

[Eraezr]

3 minutes ago, Elvick_ said:

I mean there's plenty replying in here. Not sure why people would doubt that part of it specifically. Twitter whines about a lot of dumb shit, "oh no this person used a skin tone one shade too dark for their Animal Crossing character they're racist!" And many of the "hate mob" as you call them are from the 30th.

 

 

It's an unfortunate trend with normies stuck in the left-right limited dimension of rationale. Even when Tara Raede came out with her #MeToo against Joe Biden, the SJWs were the most vicious in calling her a liar, a slut, bitch and other manner of deplorable labels because they couldn't deign to accept that she had evidence (which is hard to present in sexual harassment/rape stories) dating all the way to 90s Larry King Show. "They're making this up because this doesn't fit into my narrative." The same goes for the camps of Duterte or Bolsonaro extreme supporters whenever women (or men) tried to speak out on their stories of abuse which went against their narrative. 

 

 

[Abby_TheLastofUs]

27 minutes ago, Eraezr said:

Even when Tara Raede came out with her #MeToo against Joe Biden, the SJWs were the most vicious in calling her a liar, a slut, bitch and other manner of deplorable labels because they couldn't deign to accept that she had evidence (which is hard to present in sexual harassment/rape stories) dating all the way to 90s Larry King Show. "They're making this up because this doesn't fit into my narrative." 

 

Example #245 of why "SJW" is a useless term to throw around.

 

Liberals attacked Tara Reade, while Leftists supported her. It was nominally leftist outlets like The Intercept that first gave attention to the women that came forward about Joe Biden' inappropriate behavior, and then pushed the Tara Reade story into the mainstream.

 

Both liberals and leftists are labeled as "SJWs" even when there's a clear difference in their behavior in the example you give.

[Eraezr]

16 minutes ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

 

Example #245 of why "SJW" is a useless term to throw around.

 

Liberals attacked Tara Reade, while Leftists supported her. It was nominally leftist outlets like The Intercept that first gave attention to the women that came forward about Joe Biden' inappropriate behavior, and then pushed the Tara Reade story into the mainstream.

 

Both liberals and leftists are labeled as "SJWs" even when there's a clear difference in their behavior in the example you give.

 

No there isn't. This is the shifting of goalposts in labels to avoid accountability. Sorry, but sending death threats to Raede and her daughter isn't something they can excuse from themselves. Those people proudly called themselves SJWs as they've done these things. Raede wasn't the first too. It's been happening to other women and minorities for years everytime such people did not fit their inconsistent ideology.

[StraightVege]

11 hours ago, Shadiochao said:

I have my doubts that this game generated any amount of significant attention, let alone death threats and calls for violence. If people made threats over large-breasted characters in video games they'd have a full-time job on their hands sending them all out.

 

Pretty sure this is just to drum up some controversy and instant-buys from the right-wing crowd who will now support this game to "own" the other side.

 

10 hours ago, Nepsy-chan98 said:

this feels like they made this up to drum up controversy as the right wing gamer chud bros on twitter love to atleast claim to buy these games to own the sjws.

 

the amount of times you see these companies with barely any name to them when they make a game about violence or have big tiddy girls in it they always seem to supposedly get this kinda controversy. from the sounds of it sending death threats and stuff is now a full time job. 

 

My immediate suspicion as well. “There's no such thing as bad publicity” and all that.

 

18 minutes ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

Liberals attacked Tara Reade, while Leftists supported her. It was nominally leftist outlets like The Intercept that first gave attention to the women that came forward about Joe Biden' inappropriate behavior, and then pushed the Tara Reade story into the mainstream.

 

Can confirm—I run in those circles, and support for Reade was almost unanimous in leftist spaces. Liberal wine mom types were the ones screaming about it being a conspiracy to help Trump.

[Abby_TheLastofUs]

2 minutes ago, Eraezr said:

 

No there isn't. This is the shifting of goalposts in labels to avoid accountability. Sorry, but sending death threats to Raede and her daughter isn't something they can excuse from themselves. Those people proudly called themselves SJWs as they've done these things. Raede wasn't the first too. It's been happening to other women and minorities for years everytime such people did not fit their inconsistent ideology.

 

You're ignoring the facts in order to use a useless label. People only use it refer to themselves to mess with people that use it as an insult.

 

Leftists don't like Joe Biden, they supported Tara Reade. Liberal outlets like The New York Times attacked her credibility, while nominally leftist outlets like The Intercept were leading the charge in giving her story attention. 

 

Using "SJW" in this context would only make sense if you were only referring to liberals, which wouldn't line-up with whatever criticism this game has gotten because that's something that spans the political spectrum.

[G4Knight]

14 hours ago, Kristen Danielle said:

I'm not a supporter of censorship, but I will jump in here after looking up Google images for this game to say that no woman on Earth with half a brain and a decent medical insurance plan would allow her boobs to be that big. Boobs are heavy as hell and cause a lot of back problems at the larger cup sizes on a normal scale (Ds and DDs). What are those, triple Ks? lol Geez. 

I’ve seen several female responses on twitter who are well endowed defending the game.

[Kristen Danielle]

4 hours ago, G4Knight said:

I’ve seen several female responses on twitter who are well endowed defending the game.

Oh, I don't doubt it. Censorship is dumb, but defending a game from censorship and actually being willing to carry that weight around yourself are two different things. Besides, I'm not against the game. I was just trying to make a joke of how silly such boobs were. If y'all want to imagine that happening in the real world, be my guest. lol

[ClausValca]

I am well aware of what the twitter mob is capable of and I've yet to actually find any significant evidence that they went after this company.  Linking a tweet for an article about the game itself isn't evidence.  The twitter mob you're referencing just seems to be saying "Ew those boobs are too big" and not actually calling for the game to be cancelled. 

 

The mob typically doesn't go after small indie projects like this because it wouldn't trend or reach the right audience.  

7 hours ago, Elvick_ said:

I mean there's plenty replying in here. Not sure why people would doubt that part of it specifically. Twitter whines about a lot of dumb shit, "oh no this person used a skin tone one shade too dark for their Animal Crossing character they're racist!" And many of the "hate mob" as you call them are from the 30th.

 

 

Edited January 2, 2021 by ClausValca

[Abby_TheLastofUs]

I looked through that tweet that was linked here, and I saw maybe two or three replies that could be read as asking the game to be censored. Most of the negative comments directed at it are making fun of the game, not calling for it to be cancelled. There's over 700 replies, so there's the possibility I could have missed something, but more likely it seems this is a manufactured controversy on the publisher's part to increase sales of a game that's already bombed on Steam.

 

Scrolling through the Top Hat Studio's twitter account, they average less than 30 retweets per tweet, but their anti-censorship posturing tweet got over 4000 retweets and they gained over 2000 new followers in a day. It's maybe the most attention they've ever gotten. 

 

Meanwhile, the game has been out since August on Steam and has only 125 reviews and at one point it was pulled from sale due to poor player feedback. The most recent reviews are applauding the devs for "sticking it to the SJWs", with some stating they aren't even going to play the game. They just want to support the devs.

 

Like I said at the top, this whole controversy was cooked up by the publisher to get people to buy a game that bombed. People make fun of a game that no one was going to buy, publishers use the newfound attention to play the victim and get some sales out of it. 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2021 by Abby_TheLastofUs

[MatThaRiPP3R84]

I thought the news about this was that sony banned it with their crazed censrship hungry bs, then microsoft followed suit because they can't be seen as not woke they're worried about being considered irrelevent as it is, and after refusing censorship only nintendo was willing to go forward with it.

 

but it's just as likely the whole thing was blown up so the quartering would make a video about it. free publicity. probably was.

[Quink666]

Never heard of the game before this thread. But will certainly buy if the price tag is right. You should always support devs/publishers with the balls to tell the cancel mob to basically fuck off. 

[Stardroid]

20 minutes ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

I looked through that tweet that was linked here, and I saw maybe two or three replies that could be read as asking the game to be censored. Most of the negative comments directed at it are making fun of the game, not calling for it to be cancelled. There's over 700 replies, so there's the possibility I could have missed something, but more likely it seems this is a manufactured controversy on the publisher's part to increase sales of a game that's already bombed on Steam.

 

Scrolling through the Top Hat Studio's twitter account, they average less than 30 retweets per tweet, but their anti-censorship posturing tweet got over 4000 retweets and they gained over 2000 new followers in a day. It's maybe the most attention they've ever gotten. 

 

Meanwhile, the game has been out since August on Steam and has only 125 reviews and at one point it was pulled from sale due to poor player feedback. The most recent reviews are applauding the devs for "sticking it to the SJWs", with some stating they aren't even going to play the game. They just want to support the devs.

 

Like I said at the top, this whole controversy was cooked up by the publisher to get people to buy a game that bombed. People make fun of a game that was no one was going to buy, publishers use the newfound attention to play the victim and get some sales out of it. 

 

 

Imagine that, exploiting brainlets who just scream "Fuck sjws and normie cucks" for money? I for one, am shocked