Personal Thoughts On The DLC Ending? *Spoilers*

[AngelicaK92]

What did everyone think about the ending scene(s) with Aloy and Seyka potentially having a romantic relationship? Voice your opinions because for me I definitely have mixed feelings. Apparently this is a hot topic that is diving the fanbase.

[Belodrin]

Personally I liked it. Glad they gave us the choice for Aloy to get some. I cheered for her. Here's hoping they can account for our choices going forward.

[cheng1674]

I chose to let Aloy get it. Although I don't personally like that every game has to put some political correctness element inside the game. Feels like to deliberate to me. 

[cometowner]

I couldn't see edge tech that doesn't make it to PS4 

 

lazy developer

[AngelicaK92]

2 hours ago, cometowner said:

I couldn't see edge tech that doesn't make it to PS4 

 

lazy developer

Yeah.  You are not missing anything. 

[Jeanolt]

Those who call it "political correctness" are just consumed by their own hatred. Tell me another AAA game that isn't made by Naughty Dog with a LGBT protagonist.

 

Just don't buy it, the game alone is fine.

[pavelbagirov]

3 hours ago, cometowner said:

I couldn't see edge tech that doesn't make it to PS4 

 

lazy developer

They just asked exclusivity for ps5 sales. Same was with FF7 remake dlc and DS Directors Cut

[DrBloodmoney]

24 minutes ago, Jeanoltt said:

Those who call it "political correctness" are just consumed by their own hatred. Tell me another AAA game that isn't made by Naughty Dog with a LGBT protagonist.

 

Just don't buy it, the game alone is fine.

Mass Effect. 

 

But yes, I agree with your point.

[cometowner]

43 minutes ago, pavelbagirov said:

They just asked exclusivity for ps5 sales. Same was with FF7 remake dlc and DS Directors Cut

But the reason dev said is graphical moments that ps4 couldn't handle

Its like you said just entertain the new gen  

[Rokukou2]

Her DNA gives clearance to those ancient vault and technology which helps the world. Which I honestly think she should settle down with a man so the next generation(her kids) have a better future. This feels like a feminist fantasy.

[SwiftGuyver]

I'm surprised to hear there are players upset or annoyed by this, it feels like they can't have played the main game very thoroughly because there were plenty of same sex couples in that and even a pride face paint option. 

 

I'd say if the devs are intent on assigning a sexual preference to Aloy then lesbian probably makes more sense for her character than straight but I would personally say she feels more asexual to me with no sexual attraction to others or desire for any sexual activity but instead just completely focused on her predestined goals of saving the world. 

 

Anyway I'm less interested in that and more interested to know if anyone who has played this story expansion felt like it genuinely couldn't run fine on a PS4 like the base game did? Is it just Sony desperately trying to claim there is actual PS5 exclusive content besides the 'Demon's Souls Remake' & 'Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart' two and a half years into the console's life or is it legit pushing things beyond what the PS4 could handle? 

[AdrenalStone21]

I think the issue a lot of people have is not about her being apart of the LGBT community. I think that choice makes perfect sense for her character. My complaints are with who they paired her with. Aloy is someone who has a really really hard time trusting people and building friendships. For her to kiss any other character within like a week of meeting them, feels really out of character for her. 

[I-Kami-I]

I thought the story was pretty weak but well presented, some settings and scenarios were awesome. But it was yet again a story about Zenith bad - Earthlings good and it did not further develop the grand picture with nemesis being the ultimate big bad.

Londra was yet again a one-dimensional villain with as little screen time as it gets. All character are still infact one-dimensional puppets that don't really grow further than their trait. Horizon was never big on characters or their development, it's a story-driven game and that is fine - but you can at least add more traits to the people like fear, doubt or untapped courage.

 

I wish it involved nemesis more into the DLC, as a Horizon 2.5 so to speak. It is the most advanced and dangerous machine there is and it could probably mess with machines on earth through signals, making them more dangerous or alter them with new abilities. This way the devs could play around or tease new gameplay ideas for Horizon 3.

 

The finale was also questionable with only 2 people taking on a Zenith and a Horus, the most powerful machine on earth - even in its weakened state. 

The epilogue also added a sour taste to Aloy being so dismissive to Sylens eventough he uncovered a potential edge agains Nemesis.

 

Now coming to the relationship. I do not really mind it, it was just not enough time for me to care about those two. Wish they would start out as some kind of rivals in this DLC and in Horizon 3 they would get into further adventures together and develop feelings towards each other.

 

However I liked the new area with its presentation and set pieces. It was really wonderful and amazing to look at!

Edited April 21, 2023 by I-Kami-I

[Swotam]

I thought the ending was fine. With regards to Aloy and Seyka I think it's about time that Aloy had someone in her life that she can be close to and care about, beyond the friends she's met along the way. Having a protagonist who is forever alone gets old after a while, we all need someone to care about, so her having feelings for Seyka seems like a good change. The sexual orientation of these characters is irrelevant.

 

Also, from a big picture perspective we're talking about people living in a world where everything that happened before is a huge unknown to all but a handful of people, and even Aloy and her friends don't have access to the knowledge of the past since that was destroyed by Faro before the end came. Any ideas of what is normal, right, wrong, or different are based on whatever beliefs these people have developed in their new world, without the baggage of the past, without old world religions imposing their belief structures, etc. There are a lot of potential benefits that would come from a big reset, and humanity forgetting about existing biases and hatred would be a big one.

 

As for the actual story, it was ok. More of the same in many ways but the game has been very successful so it's obviously a formula that works. I don't personally find the Quen to be the most interesting group to focus on since I find their beliefs based on old world corporate structures to be a bit cringy at times, but the characters themselves are fine. Going after one more Zenith who's about to destroy everything for personal gain isn't my favorite thing to do, and I'd rather have gone looking for more missing pieces of GAIA given a choice, but facing off against a Horus was definitely different. Not sure I'd want to do that on Ultra Hard...

 

The Burning Shores are visually excellent and the new machines and overall environment is great. You know that if you can just fly around and appreciate how incredible things look then someone did something right. Overall I thought the DLC was fine, the price was reasonable and I got a decent amount of playtime out of it, but at this point I'm sort of done with the whole business of killing machines to upgrade gear that isn't really much better than the gear I already spent a bunch of time upgrading so I'm sort of done with the game unless another expansion comes along.

 

21 hours ago, Jeanoltt said:

Those who call it "political correctness" are just consumed by their own hatred. Tell me another AAA game that isn't made by Naughty Dog with a LGBT protagonist.

 

Just don't buy it, the game alone is fine.

Cyberpunk, Life is Strange True Colors, Mass Effect trilogy (as previously mentioned), and more. I think it's perfectly fine both in life and in games, and when people have a problem with it then that's more of a reflection on them than anything else. Most of this nonsense can be linked back to antiquated beliefs that should have been abandoned long ago, and people need to chill out and stop worrying about how other people (or characters in a video game) make choices in their lives. I agree that if it bugs someone that much, just don't play the game.

 

 

[BlindMango]

I was always under the impressing that Aloy had absolutely zero interest in any of the (to be honest often more interesting) characters around her, male or female - like they were all just sort of in the way and a hinderance to her. So I guess this is an opportunity for ... an improvement in character writing for her? Something tells me it probably won't be though lol

 

Edited April 21, 2023 by BlindMango

[avalyanart]

For me this expansion was somehow better then base game, probably because it was short, didn't much care about characters and story as well. But I actually glad that I can finally free some space from my console after more then a year lol 

Edited April 21, 2023 by avalyanart

[Biertje373]

I liked it, someone I followed shared it on Twitter (own fault for opening Twitter) so I knew that it was coming, but I didn't know that it was a choice.I personally went with it because they have a certain chemistry that I really liked.

[Tsundokuist]

I also liked that plotline…
 

My main takeaway from the “core” game was that Aloy is a wilfully dull and uninteresting character but I thought the DLC and introduction of Seyka actually did quite a lot to remedy that.

 

(Not that I’m a fan of this game or would recommend it to anyone… It’s very “mid” and easily the least enjoyable game on my profile.)

[The Alchemist]

The Aloy and Seyka romance plot wasn't hugely interesting to me. I was just like "Oh, okay. Cool". I had never really considered the idea of Aloy being with someone before. She always gave me the vibe of being somewhat detached from everyone close to her because she was always so focused on the goal at hand, so I suppose in that regard it was a little surprising to suddenly have a romance thrown our way, but it made for a nice change of pace I guess and it was good to see Aloy happy for once. I'm less surprised that the usual loud minority of manbabies are up in arms about it. Do these people ever take a day off from being outraged? The option is there to simply not engage with the content if it offends you. Isn't that exactly what these people always tell everyone else? Should take their own advice...

 

As for the rest of the story, it was pretty much more of the same. We didn't really learn anything new about Nemesis, aside from some potential leads in tracking down old world tech that may or may not help to defeat it, if the tech even exists. My main complaints are all the same issues I had with the base game, those mainly being that Nemesis as a plot point still seems very silly to me, and that Aloy as a character has become quite dull. I enjoyed basically everything else about the DLC; the new location, the gameplay is still great, the combat is as fun and varied as ever, the new mechanics are cool, the game's visuals are absolutely stunning (even more so than the base game) etc. I still really enjoy the Horizon universe overall but I find myself increasingly losing interest in the story which is a real shame. I'm still interested to see what direction they take going forward though, especially since Lance is no longer with us. 

[Supermarco1012]

On 20/4/2023 at 7:44 PM, DrBloodmoney said:

Mass Effect. 

 

But yes, I agree with your point.

 

Probably you can't compare this two games, Mass effect is not the same, as in many other RPGs you could create your own shepard as you wished, male or female (or just accept the one already created) then choose freely who to romance, another man, woman or even alien; of course this is not the case with Horizon

[lostforever77]

Homophobia shouldn't exist

[Sikutai]

Erend and Avad will be heartbroken. By the end of the main game, Aloy and Erend were actually holding each other's hips. The romance feels rushed, maybe that's why they hid it in a DLC? My guess is that Seyka won't play a role in part 3 anymore. The boss fight, on the other hand, was very successful, I would have liked that for the main game.

[Jermster_91]

On 4/20/2023 at 1:39 PM, AdrenalStone21 said:

I think the issue a lot of people have is not about her being apart of the LGBT community. I think that choice makes perfect sense for her character. My complaints are with who they paired her with. Aloy is someone who has a really really hard time trusting people and building friendships. For her to kiss any other character within like a week of meeting them, feels really out of character for her. 

 

I see Aloy more as Asexual. Someone who rather not get into a romantic relationship because of how she grew up an outcast from the rest of the tribe.

 

 

Edited April 23, 2023 by Jermster_91

[Filthy_Fist]

I agree with the asexual sentiment. But Aloy getting some loving is fine with me. 

The last end boss though that is enough reason to complain. One of the worst boss fights I have ever had in three decades of gaming.

[rospondek]

On 4/20/2023 at 9:18 AM, Belodrin said:

Here's hoping they can account for our choices going forward.

I don't think they will ever get back to that. Maybe in one scene, or some Focus calls but having three different parallel plot lines is too much to handle in such a big game.