StrickenBiged Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) Edit: This thread was created to provide a bit of news and for discussion about remastering generally. If you'd just like to name some games that you'd like to see remastered, are you sure you don't want this thread instead? But hey, go nuts. It might be a free country where you are. ;0) SCEE boss Jim Ryan has hinted that there may be more remasters coming to PS4 in the future, according to Pushsquare. He said: "We know that there are lots of PS4 owners that have either never played games before or used to have an Xbox or a Nintendo who have never had the chance to play something like the Uncharted trilogy, but it has to be a great game if we're going to go to the trouble of re-mastering. I can't talk specifically, but I think that it's very likely that there'll be more." The comments are made in this video, skip to 24:00 minutes: My own view is that more games being available on more platforms is not a bad thing. However, I do hope that they get on with new IP and games soon. For an interesting view on Remastering, see the below from Extra Credits. Edited August 7, 2015 by StrickenBiged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpywomble Posted August 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2015 Yes Yes I might get my pong remaster at last 60 frames a second yay!!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltyie Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 What else is there to remaster? I'm all for remasters of ps2 and ps1 games, we've ran out of good ps3 titles to remaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Some remasters even-though I'm not buying them are smart but some like prototype just are like WTF, I do want to get to the point where lots of the PS3 games are remastered on PS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Super-Fly Spider-Guy Posted August 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm fine with remasters existing, and in the case I've not played the game, I'd generally buy the remastered version (provided it's not ten times the price of the old one), however, I don't understand a lot of the complaints people have with the current trend of remasters. Most of the time, they're handled by outside studios so it doesn't stop the original game's makers from doing anything new (like how Sanzaru remastered the Sly trilogy while Sucker Punch kept working on inFamous) and no one is forcing you to buy the new version. I hate the defense of "no one is making you do it" most of the time, but it's pretty fitting here. If there's a market for people who want to buy a game twice, then why not sell them the game twice? Besides, if it's a game that's not ridiculously huge being remade, just the fact there's more copies out there and more ways for people to find the game, is a great thing. While on the subject, one last gen game I really want to get the remaster treatment, is GTA IV. I'm a Vice City kid through and through, but I do love me some GTA IV, I still play it decently regularly, I enjoy it a lot more than GTA V personally. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splathew Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 All I want is the Mass Effect trilogy and Skyrim. ME is my favorite series ever and Skyrim had it's share of problems on PS3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goro Posted August 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2015 we've ran out of good ps3 titles to remaster. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 What else is there to remaster? I'm all for remasters of ps2 and ps1 games, we've ran out of good ps3 titles to remaster. These would be more expensive, as entire game engines, polygons, audio, textures, etc etc would need updating. Last-gen -> PS4 is a lot easier as you just need to dial up the resolution to 1080p, and fiddle with the frame rate. And get around the whole PS3 cell structure etc. Yes Yes I might get my pong remaster at last 60 frames a second yay!!! It was such a simple game, I bet you could re-create it in Unity over the weekend if you really wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 After Bloodborne exceeded their already high expectations, a Demon's Souls remaster is pretty likely at this point. It wasn't much of a success the first time, but if they market it as being from the same line of games as Dark Souls and Bloodborne then I'm sure it'll get a lot of attention now the series has grown. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpywomble Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 40 different colour bats, Online leader boards, split screen, whack in a plat and your all sent to go all for the price of £9.99! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xZoneHunter Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I don't mind remastered game releases as long as they don't keep the dev from making something new and fresh. To be honest i'd like to see more remakes and reboots of older series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltyie Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Oh, I actually meant PS exclusive games remastered, sorry for not being clearer, red dead remastered would be awesome, but I would hope that a sequel that tops it is already well underway at rockstar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I love to see Heavenly Sword, Resistance, or Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction to be remastered... with trophies this time around of course! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 This thread was created to provide a bit of news and for discussion about remastering generally. If you'd just like to name some games that you'd like to see remastered, are you sure you don't want this thread instead? But hey, go nuts. It might be a free country where you are. ;0) I'm fine with remasters existing, and in the case I've not played the game, I'd generally buy the remastered version (provided it's not ten times the price of the old one), however, I don't understand a lot of the complaints people have with the current trend of remasters. Most of the time, they're handled by outside studios so it doesn't stop the original game's makers from doing anything new (like how Sanzaru remastered the Sly trilogy while Sucker Punch kept working on inFamous) and no one is forcing you to buy the new version. I hate the defense of "no one is making you do it" most of the time, but it's pretty fitting here. If there's a market for people who want to buy a game twice, then why not sell them the game twice? Besides, if it's a game that's not ridiculously huge being remade, just the fact there's more copies out there and more ways for people to find the game, is a great thing. While on the subject, one last gen game I really want to get the remaster treatment, is GTA IV. I'm a Vice City kid through and through, but I do love me some GTA IV, I still play it decently regularly, I enjoy it a lot more than GTA V personally. I agree. I sold my copies of the Uncharted games once I learned of the remaster coming out - I too would like to play on the prettiest version available. Plus, there's no MP in those, so that's good! I'm generally in favour of re-masters, as a consumer. The only thing that does concern me is publishers relying on them too much for revenue, as this bubble could burst at some point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpknight Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) What else is there to remaster? I'm all for remasters of ps2 and ps1 games, we've ran out of good ps3 titles to remaster. What about Metal Gear Solid 4?! Edited August 7, 2015 by hpknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zafira1290 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Far Cry 3 needs to get remastered! Damn, it could look gorgeous! Own maps were fun to create too but can't do that anymore since the game freezes for unknown reason for me. It's essential ps3 game so there's a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 At this rate most games on the ps3 will have remasters, some of the games don't really deserve it in my opinion (sleeping dogs) #makesmegotosleep I'd like to play another timesplitters game though so if they remake that then i'll be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoazol Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm generally in favour of re-masters, as a consumer. The only thing that does concern me is publishers relying on them too much for revenue, as this bubble could burst at some point. My thoughts exactly, and especially much so if they choose to remaster games that are notably expensive or difficult to find in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMIB99 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Seems like we're getting a bunch of reboots too, for example DOOM, NFS, Hitman, Star Wars Battlefront etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 Seems like we're getting a bunch of reboots too, for example DOOM, NFS, Hitman, Star Wars Battlefront etc. Reboots can be great. I'm really looking forward to the new DOOM, personally. Taking the point from the EC video I embedded about older games that need remastering not getting them because of the expense - I wonder how hard it would be to provide emulation of older games? Like, surely the PS4 could handle pretending to be a PS2 or a PS1 even if it can't pretend to be a PS3? Anyone know how hard emulation is and whether this would be impossible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 This thread was created to provide a bit of news and for discussion about remastering generally. If you'd just like to name some games that you'd like to see remastered, are you sure you don't want this thread instead? But hey, go nuts. It might be a free country where you are. ;0) I agree. I sold my copies of the Uncharted games once I learned of the remaster coming out - I too would like to play on the prettiest version available. Plus, there's no MP in those, so that's good! I'm generally in favour of re-masters, as a consumer. The only thing that does concern me is publishers relying on them too much for revenue, as this bubble could burst at some point. No MP in Uncharted for PS4?! I might just finish 1 on my PS3 and wait to play the rest when I finally convert to PS4. My thoughts exactly, and especially much so if they choose to remaster games that are notably expensive or difficult to find in this day and age. On the notion of a bubble, this situation does not conform. Bubbles imply limited commodities mixed with hyper-inflation. Everyday there is a sizable influx of new gamers discovering video games for the first time. I haven't looked at costs lately, however, when PS3 came out costs of remastering a typical PS2 game for PS3 had a ROI of about 20-25k unit sales. With technology advancing as fast as it is and as studios spend more time getting familiar with programming on the PS4, the costs to remaster are reduced proportionally to the length of time to start the remaster. Any studio that decides it's IP is popular enough to warrant spending the money on a PS4 remaster has certainly had their bean counters run the numbers. Existing IP (especially previously successful IP) is the least risky investment for a studio. It's almost guaranteed income. No need to worry about a bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xillia Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I dunno... If their goal is to allow new PS4 owners to play games that are like 4 years old, couldn't they just port them? It's not like they are unplayable now, unless you're really into pores or I'm missing something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Like, surely the PS4 could handle pretending to be a PS2 or a PS1 even if it can't pretend to be a PS3? Anyone know how hard emulation is and whether this would be impossible? The PS4 could easily handle PS1 emulation and certainly most of the PS2 emulation. However, Sony isn't going to. They'd rather sell you the game digitally again. Sony is completely focused on the future at this point. As a company they've charged PlayStation with making sure revenue keeps coming in. Investing R&D dollars into games Sony won't make money on again is not going to happen. I really wish Sony was still hemorrhaging cash and could pour boatloads of cash into things like the Vita and BC on the PS4, but as a company, they've got to make some pretty stingy decisions right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMIB99 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I wonder how hard it would be to provide emulation of older games? Like, surely the PS4 could handle pretending to be a PS2 or a PS1 even if it can't pretend to be a PS3? Anyone know how hard emulation is and whether this would be impossible? Well the PS3 also had PS One and PS2 games available, guess its possible on PS4 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 At this rate most games on the ps3 will have remasters, some of the games don't really deserve it in my opinion (sleeping dogs) #makesmegotosleep I'd like to play another timesplitters game though so if they remake that then i'll be happy I would love to see a new TimeSplitter game. I am surprised with all the FPS out that no one thought to either reboot or remaster it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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