Super-Fly Spider-Guy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I think the funniest thing about Dead or Alive is back in the day, a good ten years ago, I rented DOA 2 on PS2 and it was a genuinely good game regardless of boobs and idiotic "controversy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishnabe Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 LMAO. The "feminists" couldn't care less about this. What a dumb thread this is. If the game isn't being brought to the West, it's an economic decision based on sales, and nothing more. This "social justice crusader" nonsense is just that...nonsense. Yeah, they don't care about this. All of the beliefs are hogwash...they just want attention and money. There so many actual problems for Women...they tackle the most pointless ones. Koei Tecmo most of the time brought their games to the west, they support a supposed dying system like the Vita with plethora of games. Not sure why we can't at least have this game digitally.....all the DOA titles are in the west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRodriguez87 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Again, I still see no evidence that SJWs actively pushed to have this game banned. They are now attacking Play Asia for calling our their BS and trying to sell DOA Asian English Sub copies. LOL....... We're talking about P-A's bullshit, right? The ones that tried to blame SJWs and essentially started this nonsense? That vid you posted mentioned websites calling PA out on THAT, not about the fact that they are carrying DOA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yeah, they don't care about this. All of the beliefs are hogwash...they just want attention and money. There so many actual problems for Women...they tackle the most pointless ones. Koei Tecmo most of the time brought their games to the west, they support a supposed dying system like the Vita with plethora of games. Not sure why we can't at least have this game digitally.....all the DOA titles are in the west. They're NOT tackling this, though. That's the point. This is a strawman. Like I said, if DoA isn't coming out West, the blame should fall on Koei-Tecmo. Blaming feminism (one of the most important movements of the last century) is wrongheaded and, frankly, reeks of the sexism of which gamers are constantly defending themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonemankane Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I don't want to sound like that guy but I would never pick this game up for it's not my kind but why make it like this? I mean look at the gta games they get a lot of this kind of crap at them and they don't care they keep the games coming but yet they won't port it to the us because of some people will go crazy? that is dum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyreth Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Not that I care because the volleyball games have always been trash, but it seems to me that Koei Tecmo is just trying to avoid backlash. I think they should just bite the bullet and localize it anyway. Everyone knows that Team Ninja is just a bunch of pervs, so this game won't make their reputation any worse. Now KT does not need to waste money trying to tone down it to pass American laws. Why do you guys always blame America for "toning down your games" ? DOA Dimensions was banned in some European countries a few years ago due to having under aged characters but still got an American release. So I'm pretty sure it's not Murrican laws that they're trying to appeal to, so stop with the blind hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus200 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I can't take this game seriously, especially because they're trying to sexualize a 13-year old girl, and that's just wrong. And I think that's the main reason this game isn't goin to the west, not the SJW thing. I get that Marie Rose is popular, I love playing with her in DOA5, but doing this with her is wrong. Besides, this is just a collection of mediocre minigames that has almost naked hot girls. This is just for people who don't know how to search DOA porn on the internet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remilia Scarlet Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I can't take this game seriously, especially because they're trying to sexualize a 13-year old girl, and that's just wrong. And I think that's the main reason this game isn't goin to the west, not the SJW thing. I get that Marie Rose is popular, I love playing with her in DOA5, but doing this with her is wrong. Besides, this is just a collection of mediocre minigames that has almost naked hot girls. This is just for people who don't know how to search DOA porn on the internet. Marie Rose is NOT 13! She is 18, as has been already stated several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Why do you guys always blame America for "toning down your games" ? DOA Dimensions was banned in some European countries a few years ago due to having under aged characters but still got an American release. So I'm pretty sure it's not Murrican laws that they're trying to appeal to, so stop with the blind hate. Because games for localization have to pass US before anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acasser Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Consider this an offbeat/odd suggestion.... but if the issue is truly that the "SJW lobby" is the reason this game isn't getting localized, couldn't Koei-Tecmo simply partner with a slightly different feminist lobby to counteract it? Perhaps they should buddy up to the "Free the Nipple" crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyreth Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Because games for localization have to pass US before anything else? Yes but in this case it's not about US laws, rather the developers not wanting to be perceived in a bad light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hoshi Posted November 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if that was the reason. It's easier to tackle video games than real issues and still feel like an up-standing citizen. It's far too easy to sexualize women just because we've got an extra private area that's hard to hide. Everyone's always so focused on covering up fictional ones. If this game featured men, would people care? I'm not bothered by the game. I'm not bothered by people who enjoy it, for whatever reasons. I'd much rather people sexualize fake women than a real one who might not want it. Even if said fake character 'maybe' is underage, that doesn't always assume anything bad about the one playing it. That's why ages are changed, to reflect the changing culture. Sometimes real women look much younger than they are, is it wrong for them to show skin, too? That's what I always find so ridiculous about this. Real women don't always look their age or have chests small enough to fit a smaller waist. But some people want all the fictional ones to be covered up, look over 20, and have a chest small enough it can't be sexualized in any way. But not too small or we're back to the 'looking underage' issue. It's all too restrictive. There's such a thing as being too adamant about something and it's making me feel like women aren't allowed to be sexual beings, even in a fake world, at all. Sometimes it feels good to look good and kick ass, even if it's not really me. I don't like sexualizing my real person, but it doesn't bother me when it's just pixels. People who like these games are not harming you. Don't shame them for it. Not until they try to take that to the real world. People are more complicated than everyone liking something for the exact same reasons. I don't expect every guy who enjoys this game to be some kind of creep I should steer way clear of. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yes but in this case it's not about US laws, rather the developers not wanting to be perceived in a bad light. It is. Because things that are supposed to be censored are things that are in some disagreement with the US laws. Because if not, then there's no point in censoring and censoring would be just for the sake of censoring =) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus200 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Marie Rose is NOT 13! She is 18, as has been already stated several times. They can keep saying this, but it doesn't change the fact that's she NOT an adult. If she's designed to look 13 and behaves as a 13 year old, then she is 13. No way she's 18. And the same thing applies to Honoka and whoever is underaged in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto_lsi Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Whether or not SJWs are to blame for this, I am getting pretty sick and tired of their 'agenda'. I played Doom as a kid and never went out and murdered anyone and I never disrespected or attacked a woman cause I saw a scantily clad video game character. Most of the world laughs at how ridiculous we've become with our need for political correctness in every facet of life, and it makes it hard to even discuss real issues that need attention cause idiots pull the 'sexism', 'racism', 'offended', etc... cards well before the discussion can get going. Hell, you can't even make a simple joke anymore without someone losing their minds! Aren't you the world Vita ambassador? Then again, the visuals are pretty important in this game and the Vita version will probably be severely downgraded... unless the PS4 version isn't very resource-heavy. Giggity? Maybe that was unintentional, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExHaseo Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 They can keep saying this, but it doesn't change the fact that's she NOT an adult. If she's designed to look 13 and behaves as a 13 year old, then she is 13. No way she's 18. And the same thing applies to Honoka and whoever is underaged in the game. Before DOA5, Ayane and Kasumi were both 16 and 17 respectively (Ayane is only 14 in the first Ninja Gaiden too). No one was throwing a hissy-fit then about underage characters then. You know, when there actually WERE underage characters. Why is it such a big deal now? Just because one actually looks like she could be 18, instead of like the others who look 20+ years old with unrealistically large boobs? Believe it or not, different women look different at different ages. There are plenty of 18 year olds who look like they're younger, just like there's 18 year olds who look older, and 25 year olds who look younger, and older. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenpai Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Giggity? Maybe that was unintentional, lol. Um... yeah, pretty much. Don't know what's in my sentence that could be taken in another way. You mean the "resource-heavy" thing? Kind of a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remilia Scarlet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 They can keep saying this, but it doesn't change the fact that's she NOT an adult. If she's designed to look 13 and behaves as a 13 year old, then she is 13. No way she's 18. And the same thing applies to Honoka and whoever is underaged in the game. You have no idea how age actually works do you? A character's visual and behavioral design does not dictate age. If you bothered to read the design notes, which I know you didn't, you would realize that she behaves the way she does because she knows how cute she looks. But you wouldn't know this because you're blindly attacking the game without looking at the facts. Before DOA5, Ayane and Kasumi were both 16 and 17 respectively (Ayane is only 14 in the first Ninja Gaiden too). No one was throwing a hissy-fit then about underage characters then. You know, when there actually WERE underage characters. Why is it such a big deal now? Just because one actually looks like she could be 18, instead of like the others who look 20+ years old with unrealistically large boobs? Believe it or not, different women look different at different ages. There are plenty of 18 year olds who look like they're younger, just like there's 18 year olds who look older, and 25 year olds who look younger, and older. This. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosmasta00 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) We all should just ignore those SJW and feminists that spew bs and etc since all they seek is attention (Since they prob didn't get much as kids or so). and will do anything to get some attention may it be positive or negative. Edited November 30, 2015 by Tosmasta00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyreth Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It is. Because things that are supposed to be censored are things that are in some disagreement with the US laws. Because if not, then there's no point in censoring and censoring would be just for the sake of censoring =) Ummm...that's why AO (Adult Only) ratings exist, publishers aren't forced to remove/censor content, they do so in order for their games to get a lower age rating. They could just as easily release an uncensored game with an AO rating. Of course some games will still receive backlash, but why should publishers care about a bunch of journalists or bloggers who have no impact on the game industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Ummm...that's why AO (Adult Only) ratings exist, publishers aren't forced to remove/censor content, they do so in order for their games to get a lower age rating. They could just as easily release an uncensored game with an AO rating. As far as I know, getting AO rating costs much more which is reason why developers try to pull down the age rating. but why should publishers care about a bunch of journalists or bloggers who have no impact on the game industry? Well, possibly because journalists and youtubers/bloggers are influential to the casual gaming community... From what I've seen, many people are affected by what youtubers say. (Personally, I have quite a big of hate for YT community so I have no idea why) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyreth Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 As far as I know, getting AO rating costs much more which is reason why developers try to pull down the age rating. It would cost more but at least it would make fans happy. Well, possibly because journalists and youtubers/bloggers are influential to the casual gaming community... From what I've seen, many people are affected by what youtubers say. (Personally, I have quite a big of hate for YT community so I have no idea why) That's the thing, they're only influential to the casual community, who would most likely skip this game anyway. These games already have their own fanbase and the opinion of a youtuber/blogger won't change their minds about buying it. That's why publishers/developers should just ignore it, I'm personally not a fan of the DOA volleyball games but I think people are making a bigger deal about it than it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenpai Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Ummm...that's why AO (Adult Only) ratings exist, publishers aren't forced to remove/censor content, they do so in order for their games to get a lower age rating. Actually, none of the three console making companies accept AO-rated games. AO games only exist on PC. (Then again, with the amount of stuff you can get with an M rating, you'd have to try really hard to get an AO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRodriguez87 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) So here's KT's official announcement, for what its worth. https://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/671690313912598528 Again, i still maintain this is a ploy using phony outrage in order to push sales. Edited December 1, 2015 by RedRodriguez87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooda Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Wonder what this means for future games with fan service. They are setting a really bad precedent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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