Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Saber Interactive takes over)

[Conor]

4 minutes ago, ziggypossum said:

 

PC release also confirmed

 

 

 

I expected as much. But as a PlayStation console exclusive; that's a pretty big deal.

[G4Knight]

Kotor. With trophies. What a time to be alive.

[Silver-I-Chariot]

Don't get your hopes up. You won't get a fateful remake, especially not with writers like these.

 

 

[Abby_TheLastofUs]

18 hours ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

Don't get your hopes up. You won't get a fateful remake, especially not with writers like these.

 

 

 

That's just another anti-SJW (racist, misogynist, transphobe, all around bigot) riling people up into unproductive outrage. It's what they do.

 

The guy thought it was hilarious that an ousted Wookiepedia admin briefly took over the site's twitter account and deleted all the tweets celebrating Pride month. Someone like that is obliviously going to have a problem with a openly bisexual women writing anything Star Wars, especially when she dunks on people like him.

 

Sam Maggs was a writer on the Spider-Man DLC Turf Wars, as well as on Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart. You can look to her actual video game work to see how she is as a writer, to get an idea what the inclusion of her in the development of the KOTOR remake means for its writing.

 

Or you can your cue from the guy that tweets about "SJWs" taking over nerd hobbies, and whines about LGBTQ characters in Star Wars. 

 

It seems I have to also add that she was not a writer on Mass Effect: Andromeda. The game isn't listed on her writing credits and she isn't credited as a writer on the game. This lie that she was a writer on Andromeda, was cooked up by Gamergaters, because they love making up things to get mad about.

 

She was a writer on Anthem, and so was a writer that worked on the original Knights of the Old Repblic, but the writers weren't the problem with that game.

 

When people whine about her involvement in the remake, what their whining about is that there might be more LGBTQ characters in the game. Other than that, they can't actually explain how she's going to "ruin" the remake.

 

 

Edited September 11, 2021 by Abby_TheLastofUs
Cleared up some lies posted below

[JoesusHCrust]

3 hours ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

Don't get your hopes up. You won't get a fateful remake, especially not with writers like these.

 

Oh blah blah blah. I got about three words in and had read enough. Is there anything more pathetic than 'anti-SJW' right wing snowflakes? Personally, I'm not a fan of identity politics but I'll judge a writer on her work, not her politics! 

[Conor]

3 hours ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

Don't get your hopes up. You won't get a fateful remake, especially not with writers like these.

 

 

 

This post missed the mark big time and from a brief look through his timeline that Twitter user you shared from is a garbage misogynist loser. Perfect example of a whining manchild who dishes out the insults but can't take it.

[MarcusPunisher]

4 hours ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

Don't get your hopes up. You won't get a fateful remake, especially not with writers like these.

 

 

Yeah, that's the same crazy woman that complained about being "virtually r*ped" like it's a big deal and was a writer for Andromeda and Anthem, we know how those games turned out. It's baffling that crazy people like her are still getting positions for something they don't even like, but I guess that's the quota these days. 

Btw, don't get your head down for these losers trying to defend her. It says more about them when they defend this garbage and I doubt they even did their research before getting triggered by this post. ? It's really funny to watch those reaction honestly.

[Redgrave]

6 hours ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

Don't get your hopes up. You won't get a fateful remake, especially not with writers like these.

 

 

 

Yeah, the hope I had for the game evaporated pretty quickly. If it was a writer that actually seemed competent and genuinely cared about the series (I don't believe any of these people when they say "Oh I am a huge fan of this series!" whenever they are brought on board for any of these classic game remakes and whatever) then I would at least be hopeful yet also skeptical but now that we know the writer is the usual run-of-the-mill insane freak on Twitter then I'm not even going to bother giving it a chance because this song and dance has happened too many times before and is currently happening with the Saints Row reboot and Netflix's Cowboy Bebop adaptation. The excuse of "modernizing" it just means they will shoehorn their own personal politics and whatever else in it while being faithful to the original takes a backseat.

 

So yeah, buckle up for the journalist gaslight articles to start coming out decrying criticism as sexism and whatever other hollow -ism and phobic label they feel like throwing out and trying to alienate fans. It sucks to see such a beloved game now get its turn with all this shit but I guess it really is just too much to ask for a faithful remake.

[BlueDragonRR]

Nothing ever truly lives up to what come before it. KotOR is one of my favorite games of all time. It is what got me into Star Wars. I hope the remake does well but can it capture me like the original did? I doubt it. FF7 has more of a following and its remake had mixed results. Time will tell. Look forward to what they come up with. Be mad or salty about a writer being hired. Doesn't really make sense to me but whatever floats your boat. 

[totakos1]

I did play KOTOR2 and it was an incredible game but I heard the 1st one was better, can’t wait for it! But it’s only for PS5?

[MarcusPunisher]

2 hours ago, totakos1 said:

I did play KOTOR2 and it was an incredible game but I heard the 1st one was better, can’t wait for it! But it’s only for PS5?

It's only for PS5 and PC to my knowledge. Nothing about PS4.

[Maverick6146]

KOTOR is THE game that makes me a fan of BioWare and to this day I didn’t play much WRPGs unless they’re from BioWare. So needless to say I am honestly excited.

 

However the debate above does cast a shadow to the hope. No matter which studio does it I wish they could hold true to the original, focus more on the graphics, and leave that dancing outfit alone.

[Maverick6146]

13 hours ago, BlueDragonRR said:

Nothing ever truly lives up to what come before it. KotOR is one of my favorite games of all time. It is what got me into Star Wars. I hope the remake does well but can it capture me like the original did? I doubt it. FF7 has more of a following and its remake had mixed results. Time will tell. Look forward to what they come up with. Be mad or salty about a writer being hired. Doesn't really make sense to me but whatever floats your boat. 

I have already witnessed what an incompetent but over ambitious writer can do with an established franchise like SW (Sorry if you are a fan of the new trilogy). I hope everything is ok but there are valid concerns to be had.

Edited September 11, 2021 by Maverick6146

[dieselmanchild]

Nice! I love RPGs and I’ve long heard that Knights of the Old Republic is considered by some to be one of the best RPGs ever made. I’ve never had an opportunity to check it out before so I’m interested in this big time. But I’ve also seen enough of this new writer they hired to know she’s one of those super cringey Twitter activist types whose entire identity is wrapped up in her political views and I’m not going to lie, this is a little worrisome to me. We’ve all seen examples in recent years of how that is potentially a recipe for a disaster.
 

I am holding out hope that they don’t go overboard with the politics and just simply focus on making a great RPG that you can lose yourself in, much like their older games. I really think Bioware needs a win too, they’ve been seriously lackin for awhile now so I’m hoping that DA4 and KOTOR will be a return to form for them.

[Ric]

On 9/10/2021 at 1:14 PM, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

When people whine about her involvement in the remake, what their whining about is that there might be more LGBTQ characters in the game. Other than that, they can't actually explain how she's going to "ruin" the remake.

 

Isn't that enough? It wasn't in the game before, it doesn't need to be in there now.

 

We don't need any more sequals and remakes to push diversity. You can keep screaming about it all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that it only appeals to a very small minority, that just happens to be the loud majority on the internet.

 

There has always been diversity in media, but it gets ignored. Somehow Black Panther is the "first" black Marvel character that got his own movie, conveniently forgetting about Blade in the 90s. Tim Drake's Robin all of a sudden needed to be gay/bisexual because... why exactly? His entire decades old backstory just being rewritten for diversity's sake.

 

I'm just watching Cowboy Bebop (the anime) for the first time. That show is from 1998 and there is loads of diversity in that (ambiguously gendered characters, gay characters, etc.), but somehow, Netflix figured that needs to be diversified aswell.

 

Shit like Strawberry Shortcake gets another show to "diversify the cast", while it's orginally been one of the most diverse shows ever made. Try reading the 1980s section of the character Plum Pudding: https://strawberryshortcake.fandom.com/wiki/Plum_Puddin'#1980s_2. And now we've got a bunch of writers trying to take credit for diversifying a show that has always been diverse. And people eat it up. It's ridiculous.

 

I'm all for diversity, as long as it is not done just for the sake of diversity. I don't care what a characters sexual orientation is, as long as the character is well written.

 

You cannot change history by rewriting it. The cruelties of the past won't be erased just because you don't see it anymore. By erasing all the references to it and pretending it all didn't happen, you're just increasing the odds of it happening again. So stop changing shit, and just let it be the product of its time. Make up your own stories.

 

I know I'm getting older and "get of my damn lawn you damn kids!", but people really need to research this shit more before praising the writers for their "courage" based on a couple of tweets. Take a look at both sides of the coin and then make up your own mind.

 

Also, we should just stop pretending that diversity is the biggest issue in the world. Do you think countries like China and Russia give a fuck? The Taliban? I'm sure they are real impressed that some western idiots think their government isn't diverse enough. The US is losing economic ground to China fast because of people thinking they need to "fix" humanity and it will be fucked up by countries that won't care about hurting your feelings.

 

Pfff, old man rant over...

Edited September 17, 2021 by Beyondthegrave07
Removed off topic discussion/PM mods if you have questions

[arcanehornet_]

Poggers

[dieselmanchild]

1 hour ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

Bioware isn't even involved in the remake. 

Ah yes, I had to look it up but it’s being handled by a studio called Aspyr. It looks like they’re the ones that did Jedi Outcast which was a cool game and one of the few Star Wars games I’ve actually played. I guess Bioware isn’t getting that W anytime soon lol.

[starcrunch061]

I realize I might be showing my old man brain, but what does “die mad about” even mean?

[DaivRules]

14 hours ago, starcrunch061 said:

I realize I might be showing my old man brain, but what does “die mad about” even mean?

I can’t help but think about a Sideshow Bob reference…

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by DaivRules

[starcrunch061]

5 minutes ago, DaivRules said:

I can’t help but think about a Sideshow Bob reference…

 

 

LOL! 
 

No one who speaks German could be evil!

[mcnichoj]

On 9/10/2021 at 10:19 AM, Stan Lee said:

 

I expected as much. But as a PlayStation console exclusive; that's a pretty big deal.

As much so as every other timed exclusive that has ever been. For those that can't read between the lines, I'm being sarcastic.

 

Obviously Sony money hatted here which I personally don't care about since I own all the consoles anyway but I think it's a stupid move on their part. PS5 is selling more than the Xbox and PS5 is generally the more sought after console. Why throw out money like this? My only guess is in fear that MS might have tried to do the same to them. This deal mostly benefits EA. When the game inevitably does go to Xbox, people will wait to play it when it also inevitably gets on GamePass. Sure EA gets money out of that but it's probably a substantial less amount than actual game sales. Just releasing on PS5 where no worthwhile GP competitor exists and you get more game sales. I believe we saw this in action with Outriders where it sold way more copies on PS but had more players on Xbox.

[Ric]

6 hours ago, starcrunch061 said:

I realize I might be showing my old man brain, but what does “die mad about” even mean?

 

I think it meant to say "die mad about it". Basically telling people that dislike it and are "mad about it" to die.

 

Edit:

It's the bottom left tweet in the image

Edited September 13, 2021 by Ric

[mcnichoj]

41 minutes ago, Ric said:

 

I think it meant to say "die mad about it". Basically telling people that dislike it and are "mad about it" to die.

Clarifying further, it's basically a nicer but still aggressive way of telling someone to "go fuck themselves".

[starcrunch061]

6 hours ago, Ric said:

 

I think it meant to say "die mad about it". Basically telling people that dislike it and are "mad about it" to die.

 

Edit:

It's the bottom left tweet in the image

 

5 hours ago, mcnichoj said:

Clarifying further, it's basically a nicer but still aggressive way of telling someone to "go fuck themselves".

 

Thanks for the clarification!

[BlueDragonRR]

On 9/11/2021 at 8:13 AM, Maverick6146 said:

I have already witnessed what an incompetent but over ambitious writer can do with an established franchise like SW (Sorry if you are a fan of the new trilogy). I hope everything is ok but there are valid concerns to be had.

Sure but many people have to green light what the writer does in many stages of producing the product. To put all blame on one person alone is weird imo.