Nitroman65 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hey guys usually I don't post topics but this caught my eye, Just pre-load D2 Beyond Light(games is still in maintenance) Hold the for quick menu to see if they add trophy for beyond light(doesn't look like it) but saw this: They replace completing Leviathan on Prestige Difficulty with Nightfall Strike on Grandmaster difficulty. Look like when I go on trophies it still has the same text but when the game comes out tomorrow it will be replaced. Thoughts?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottercito_ Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 So it means the game is still 100% achievable. Nice! I will give it a try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGuy420 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Ouch. That's actually a big jump in difficulty imo =/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupiterandmns Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 What about the Belly of the Beast trophy? That should also have been replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroman65 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, foccoon said: What about the Belly of the Beast trophy? That should also have been replaced. It has been replaced to "Complete a Nightfall strike on Master Difficulty" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scemopagliaccioh Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Nice, now I just need to figure out how to start a nightstrike, and hopefully get carried by someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirShavesALot Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 So is it safe to assume that Bungie is done adding trophies to Destiny 2 from now on? Asking for a friend... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaLuna Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SirShavesALot said: So is it safe to assume that Bungie is done adding trophies to Destiny 2 from now on? Asking for a friend... During Shadowkeep one of the Community Managers confirmed they were focusing on in-game triumphs and thus no trophies for SK. I assume the same applies here. Good news for people that no longer play and want to retain 100%, bad news for people that still play, and want more trophies. Edited November 10, 2020 by PortaLuna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sh4d0wzcs Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 So they basically come full circle and changed it back to doing a nightfall. Good for those who still need the platinum and couldn't sit through that boring raid. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonneeD Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) In a Flash has also been changed. Old description is "Complete a Flashpoint on Earth, Titan, Nessus, or Io." Now it says "Complete 5 Heroic Public Events" Edit: I actually think the Prestige might be harder to get now. You could always do Prestige Leviathan at a decently low power due to the fact that it was an activity from early in the games lifespan. Grandmaster Nightfalls however will require essentially max power as well as good mods, weapons and teammates. Edited November 10, 2020 by SonneeD more info 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arophous Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Got the Prestige Lev one 15 mins before we got taken offline... just in case!! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura_p789cs Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) well Edited November 10, 2020 by Sakura_p789cs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurjen Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 as long as their not adding anymore trophies then they can change however they like haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LihapullaPoju Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 thank god I did prestige raid, GM nightfalls seem to be insane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonnardo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, SonneeD said: I actually think the Prestige might be harder to get now. You could always do Prestige Leviathan at a decently low power due to the fact that it was an activity from early in the games lifespan. Grandmaster Nightfalls however will require essentially max power as well as good mods, weapons and teammates. Strongly disagree here. Nightfall (regardless of the level of difficulty) requires 3 decent players with at least 1 or 2 with decent stuff but there are barely no mechanics involved in strikes/nightfall. So it's imo much easier to do this than Prestige Leviathan, which on top of being on of the worst raid ever with counterintuitive/clunky mechanics requires a full team of 6 very good coordinated players. Light level is irrelevant because it's capped out at "activity light level" + 10. So you might be 1360 light and still get wrecked in Prestige Leviathan because in reality you're capped at "activity light level" + 10. I dont't remember what it is for Leviathan maybe 750? So capped at 760, and adds pack a punch there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ETS_Silverblade Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 This is a very large jump in difficulty. Not to scare anyone off from trophy hunting but Grandmaster Nightfalls are brutal, unfun, and perhaps the worst content Bungie has ever released. I would much rather run Prestige Leviathan than run a GM Nightfall. Unless Bungie has some sort of secret overhaul of the Nightfall system that they haven't revealed yet, GM Nightfalls are always done at activity power level -25. Very brutal damage scaling and minor enemies can two or three shot players at that point with major enemies often one shotting players. They also contain a slew of negative modifiers and zero positive modifiers. Worse than all of that though is the time investment required to access a GM Nightfall. For reference, The GM Nightfalls in this season required 1075 power level to enter and the activity was at power level 1100. If that same pattern holds for next season, it will require 1275 to enter and will be at power level 1300. The next seasons max gear level is 1260, so to access a GM Nightfall will require, at a minimum grinding gear up to 1255 with the seasonal artifact being at +20 (approximately level 200 on the season pass). This is an extreme time investment to level and complete a GM in a season window. The power level requirements increase every season requiring you to regrind your gear/levels. I've enjoyed playing Destiny 2 but I don't envy anyone trying to get the platinum trophy now. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomFear94 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I don't play Destiny, but credit where it's due in ensuring the Platinum is still achievable (even if its harder). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonneeD Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Okoteiru said: Strongly disagree here. Nightfall (regardless of the level of difficulty) requires 3 decent players with at least 1 or 2 with decent stuff but there are barely no mechanics involved in strikes/nightfall. So it's imo much easier to do this than Prestige Leviathan, which on top of being on of the worst raid ever with counterintuitive/clunky mechanics requires a full team of 6 very good coordinated players. Light level is irrelevant because it's capped out at "activity light level" + 10. So you might be 1360 light and still get wrecked in Prestige Leviathan because in reality you're capped at "activity light level" + 10. I dont't remember what it is for Leviathan maybe 750? So capped at 760, and adds pack a punch there. I think you're underestimating the difficulty of GM Nightfalls and overestimating the difficulty of Prestige levi. You need to keep in mind that GM Nightfalls have a lot of brutal modifiers active that increase incoming damage, lock loadouts and more. Not to mention the fact that the recommended light level is higher than the seasons cap (ignoring the artifact bonus). Just because there aren't more complicated mechanics like in a raid doesn't mean that you don't need highly skilled players. Raids are simple once you understand the mechanics, even on prestige, and can be completed with average skills as long as you can coordinate with your team. Also, what exactly is counterintuitive/clunky about leviathan? You could maybe make a case for the void room in the calus fight being a little clunky, but everything else works completely fine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleprincessJJ Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, SonneeD said: I think you're underestimating the difficulty of GM Nightfalls and overestimating the difficulty of Prestige levi. You need to keep in mind that GM Nightfalls have a lot of brutal modifiers active that increase incoming damage, lock loadouts and more. Not to mention the fact that the recommended light level is higher than the seasons cap (ignoring the artifact bonus). Just because there aren't more complicated mechanics like in a raid doesn't mean that you don't need highly skilled players. Raids are simple once you understand the mechanics, even on prestige, and can be completed with average skills as long as you can coordinate with your team. Also, what exactly is counterintuitive/clunky about leviathan? You could maybe make a case for the void room in the calus fight being a little clunky, but everything else works completely fine. Completely agree with u here , I been playing this game 8 weeks long nonstop have 300 hours and I reached level 1065 , my bf level 1071 meaning we couldn't start grandmaster nightfall , we played it on the second easiest difficulty which was already brutal and keep in mind u dnt have matchmaking on grandmaster difficulty plus the modifiers and as far I know the enemies are scaled way above ur level . Meaning even to start the activity u need to put a insane amount of time into farming pinnacle gear and playing destiny then u need find 2 other insanely good players and manage the nightfall . In comparison I runned 3 raids only last week . The first time levi on prestige was hard cuz u needed figure out mechanics but the second time we managed fine and fast cuz we had the tactics down , u dnt need insanely high power level or gear , we actually carried a player through being new players ourself . Only thing that takes little more time is calus but we actually managed him without dying once and needed two phase him . So I think u confusing a little bit things here ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGuy420 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Okoteiru said: Strongly disagree here. Nightfall (regardless of the level of difficulty) requires 3 decent players with at least 1 or 2 with decent stuff but there are barely no mechanics involved in strikes/nightfall. So it's imo much easier to do this than Prestige Leviathan, which on top of being on of the worst raid ever with counterintuitive/clunky mechanics requires a full team of 6 very good coordinated players. Light level is irrelevant because it's capped out at "activity light level" + 10. So you might be 1360 light and still get wrecked in Prestige Leviathan because in reality you're capped at "activity light level" + 10. I dont't remember what it is for Leviathan maybe 750? So capped at 760, and adds pack a punch there. Grandmaster Nightfall is VERY different from a Nightfall. This season the Light soft cap was 1050, GM's couldn't even be started till 1075, with 1100 light and a mile long list of modifiers. And you mentioned the cap a couple times but even playing 16 hours a day, most people won't even come close to the GM cap. Prestige Leviathan is difficult in the sense of coordination, sure. But Grandmasters are built to be the most difficult content in the game. And they are. Edited November 10, 2020 by KingGuy420 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonnardo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) If I'm not mistaken the grandmaster nightfall was introduced fairly recently, so we're not sure if level cap / gap to play it are gonna stay the way there this season. It might be easier to go over the grandmaster level cap making the task less daunting, thus less grind etc. Some people solo grandmaster nightfalls in matter of minutes (yes they're top players but it means it's also doable), some strikes/nf can be cheesed, so I'm really tempted to think it's really less complicated than a full 6 people raid with coordination mechanics. It's all a matter of perspective here, if you're a raid addict with a good dedicated team of course prestige leviathan is cakewalk, if you don't then nf might be a way better option. Time will tell. I found Leviathan based raids to be fairly clunky in mechanics, circus encounter, final encounter, the whole Spire of Stars and the whole Crown of Sorrow but that's just my personnal opinion. Edited November 10, 2020 by Okoteiru added details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMShotgun123 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 This will certainly make it harder than Prestige Levi. Last season, Season of Arrivals, the gear cap was 1060, with a soft cap of 1050. GM Nightfalls were light level 1100. This meant you had to get 40-50 levels on the seasonal artifact in order to stand a chance, depending on your luck with Powerful and Pinnacle rewards (the ones that take you from the soft cap to the real cap). I played for 380 hours, doing pretty much every weekly bounty in the Tower, and got to 1052 light with 24 levels on the seasonal artifact, for a total of 1076. I was just in the threshold for playing the GM, but I was nowhere near strong enough to deal with enemies efficiently, let alone Champions. Combine that with locked loadouts and extra handicaps, and even Lake of Shadows was impossible for me and my team. By contrast, Levi was just mostly mechanics, and with the recommended light level being 750 for both normal and prestige, pretty much any raid team with 2 or 3 well geared sherpas could make it through in an evening. The only problems where bugs, especially on Calus. Also, GM Nightfalls are only available on the last 3 weeks of a season, so if you miss your chance you've to wait 3 months for your next chance. AND you'll have to grind all the way back to the new light cap in order to access them. So yeah, good luck new owners. I'm so done with this franchise... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGuy420 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, EMShotgun123 said: Also, GM Nightfalls are only available on the last 3 weeks of a season, so if you miss your chance you've to wait 3 months for your next chance. I think it's 6 weeks. If the season goes right (which arrivals didn't) I think it's 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. Each season has 6 nightfalls. First they run without GM. Then they run with GM. Then the next season is just about ready to start and the cycle starts over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33sar54 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Sakura_p789cs said: well Just out of curiosity: do you happen to know where that screenshot you posted comes from? Is that a tool you can download somewhere, or is it only available to the inner circle of Destiny dataminers and no mere mortal can wield such power? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNSpradlin Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) So its much harder now, ok. Edited November 10, 2020 by JNSpradlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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