Sony Reportedly taking steps to ban Shovelware

[CelestialRequiem]

If this is true, Breakthrough Gaming better start praying that God himself will intercept Jim Ryan. He's obviously insurmountable otherwise. 

[Kevvik]

1 hour ago, diskdocx said:

Partner Requirements & Allowances
 

Products whose functionality and/or assets are copied or are not meaningfully different from products already published on PlayStation™Store, irrespective of the publisher of record.

Multiple concepts and product variants, published by individual partners, that have duplicative functionality or experiences, differentiated only by minor variances of functionality or assets.

If this is true, then Microsoft’s merger with Activision should be able to go through since Sony is no longer interested in Call of Duty…?

[x7251]

It's too late. The damage has already been done.

[EightBitArtist]

ya this is too little too late. the leaderboards are already killed because of these games and all the stacks. they shouldve never been allowed in the first place. why cant sony have someone determine if a game is ACTUALLY a game before releasing on psn?

[MilanYildirim]

About time. Now, it is time to devalue them on psnp as well. All shovelware grants 0 points and everyone happy but shovelbros

[Sparklebun1996]

Good but took far too long

[diskdocx]

36 minutes ago, Kevvik said:

If this is true, then Microsoft’s merger with Activision should be able to go through since Sony is no longer interested in Call of Duty…?

Harsh. But I definitely laughed ?

[You]

This is maybe a controversial opinion especially given my views over the past few months, but I think the shovelware games should not be banned, and should continue to be released in great quantities..

 

Why?

 

For starters, why on earth has Sony decided to fix it now?! This happened BECAUSE of Sony and is too fucking late imo.

 

Putting a ban on the games from now gives all the shovelware games up to this point more value. Like, if you found out that FINALLY you can purchase ALL of the shovelware with no new games coming out soon, then well you've just given addicts an incentive to "complete the collection", having a never ending supply of games coming out, gives them all less value, and less reason to continue and more reason to give up.

 

Also once the shovelware games are not allowed to be released, we will just go back to minimum quality to get on the store and go back to the Ratalaika and My Name Is Mayo days.

So all that will happen is the really REALLY shit shovelware games will go, but then mildly borderline ones will increase and be here to stay.

 

Too little too late.

[SpaceCoresDad]

16 minutes ago, enaysoft said:

Also once the shovelware games are not allowed to be released, we will just go back to minimum quality to get on the store and go back to the Ratalaika and My Name Is Mayo days.

So all that will happen is the really REALLY shit shovelware games will go, but then mildly borderline ones will increase and be here to stay.

"I would rather have the REALLY shit games posted constantly than regular games with easy trophy lists."

That's you. That's what you're saying right now.

[SoliDeoGloriaIHS]

Sounds great!  One can only hope. ?

[You]

10 minutes ago, SpaceCoresDad said:

"I would rather have the REALLY shit games posted constantly than regular games with easy trophy lists."

That's you. That's what you're saying right now.

 

Either way, I am not buying the games, and people who want to buy them I guess it's their right. So it doesn't bother me

 

Long term, I'd rather try to give people more insensitive to not buy them. Banning them now gives the previous shite more value.

You know as much as I do they won't be "regular games" though, they'll still be low quality, just slightly less low quality, these devs will do the bare minimum to get on the store. It will be like ZJ Ball Level 1, but instead something like Foxy Land 3 Stage 1, Foxy Land 3 Stage 2.

We already have a "half decent" looking Flappy Bird clone doing a similar thing, which is quality wise as bare minimum as you need. Those kind of games will become more popular instead.

 

Completely outright stopping these shit games, well it's like stopping alcoholics from drinking whiskey and just giving them beer instead.

The genie is out of the bottle, a market has been set, trying to convince people not to buy these games seems a better approach than just banning them outright at this late stage.

 

Nothing will be solved, we'll just be back to "Ratalaika" era instead.

Edited November 22, 2022 by enaysoft

[SpaceCoresDad]

1 minute ago, enaysoft said:

You know as much as I do they won't be "regular games" though, they'll still be low quality, just slightly less low quality

 

That is still increasing the quality of the games. For fuck's sake man. You are LITERALLY saying "give us the worst shit. I want games of horrible quality instead of just bad quality." I'm pretty sure these Stage 1 and Stage 2 games are going to be included given that the article specifically suggests putting similar games together into one package.

 

You're also ignoring all of the normal indie devs who are having their own games drowned out by the mass of trash. Because that higher level of quality, no matter how much higher, is being expected, it'll at least slow down the shovelware. That is always a good thing. How could that possibly not be a good thing?

[You]

6 minutes ago, SpaceCoresDad said:

You're also ignoring all of the normal indie devs who are having their own games drowned out by the mass of trash. Because that higher level of quality, no matter how much higher, is being expected, it'll at least slow down the shovelware. That is always a good thing. How could that possibly not be a good thing?

 

That's true, and I agree.

 

You're not seeing my point though, for this to work, Sony needs to stop these games getting released but more importantly needs to delist all the shite games from the store. Like literally purge all this shit. Slowing down the shovelware is a good start, but the hack devs are just going to find a new way and the fact all these games remain. Even delisting all the shit though, that also makes a mockery of this very forum, first come first served. You already got your hack games but now nobody else can. So then nobody can catch Ikemenzi and co.

 

People playing these shite games aren't bothered mostly about buying real games anymore anyway. They wouldn't magically buy more indie games just because the shite isn't on offer.

 

It is unfortunately normal indie devs in general, but that'sSony's fault for not properly curating the store. Infact that's Sony's fault in a lot of ways, EVERY single time a sale is on and you go to "Show All", what do you see? FIFA, Call Of Duty, Grand Theft Auto 5. Having your game listed at the top, companies are giving Sony money to promote their stuff, something which indie games never have.

 

Sony is shitting on normal indie devs way more than these shit games existing actually is.

Edited November 22, 2022 by enaysoft

[Infected Elite]

should also ban all the accounts who bought the crap or delete all the trophies from them.

[Darling Baphomet]

38 minutes ago, enaysoft said:

People playing these shite games aren't bothered mostly about buying real games anymore anyway. They wouldn't magically buy more indie games just because the shite isn't on offer.

 

... Except the vast majority of Ratalaika games were full fledged indie games except with shit trophy lists. So yes, they would, unless your fearmongering about the coming of Ratalaikagnarok amounts to nothing.

[Ghost-Zeus514]

I hope that this became a reality, I'm so done with these games 

Update:Seems like this dude is not trustable 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Ghost-Zeus514

[Raidou Kuzunoha XIV]

Preview: The Trophy Wars - Chapter 12: The potential end of the shovelware menace

 

In this thrilling saga that's spanned multiple heated locked and deleted threads across PSNProfiles, it seems the epic masterpiece may be reaching its exciting conclusion soon! Will the rumours prove true, or will the fate of the leaderboards' legitimacy still hang in the balance? Find out, in the next exciting episode of this likely to reach 20+ pages thread! Hurry, don't miss the action before it's locked/deleted - limited time only!

[lostforever77]

3 hours ago, Kevvik said:

If this is true, then Microsoft’s merger with Activision should be able to go through since Sony is no longer interested in Call of Duty…?

Call of duty games will still come to Playstation

Cod is unrelated 

1 hour ago, Infected Elite said:

should also ban all the accounts who bought the crap or delete all the trophies from them.

No

[CsGetDegree]

PSNproflies in shambles rn

[lostforever77]

2 minutes ago, CsGetDegree said:

PSNproflies in shambles rn

Not really

[CsGetDegree]

1 minute ago, lostforever77 said:

Not really

Well not for most people. But the leaderboards will definitely be very different now.

[MrShovelware]

nothing will change. these excellent games will continue to release. Just because they change some rules (if this is even real) doesn't mean they're going to enforce them.  

Edited November 22, 2022 by MrShovelware

[ArabianSwordsman]

 

The bad ending for us gamers if true. 

[Infected Elite]

18 minutes ago, lostforever77 said:

 

No

 Real compelling argument. Bravo.... zzzz

[Lordguwa]

not a good thing to me. i like buying a few of those 1$ games it helps to move me into playing longer plat games.