Popular Post marnagra Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 It somehow forces trophy hunters to play the game quickly and complete all of these until the servers are working, developers who make games with online trophies are assholes. I think it would be a good thing if they would delete these as soon as the servers are down. What are your thoughts? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post m0nst3rG4m3r007 Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 I've always thought if the servers go down all the online trophies should be unlocked for everyone who boots up the game. I don't think they are too bad (unless the servers go down) and can be fun in some circumstances. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bullstomp Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 I completely disagree with monstergamer. Trophies should be earned not given away. This is one of the things Mass Effect 3 did right and I am disappointed more titles have not done since. ME3 had online trophies BUT there was an alternate way to win those same trophies in the campaign. Genius. 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zenpai Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) As an exclusively offline gamer, I wholeheartedly agree. They shouldn't even remove the online trophies as soon as the servers go offline (that would be unfair to the people that already got the trophies), they shouldn't even create them in the first place. Quite a few people positively don't care about online gaming, but if they're trophy hunters, online trophies force them to go online. Not to mention the aforementioned inability to get them as soon as the servers go offline. I can't even begin to describe how painful it was getting the online trophies for Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. First, the bloody servers kick you for times on end for no fucking reason. And then, when you finally assembled enough people to boost, some of them are unable to join your session. Also for no fucking reason. Can't even begin to tell you how relieved I was to finally get all the online trophies before the servers went down. Also, the fact that you're unable to get them by yourself is a major pain. Some people are just assholes and unable to cooperate with, and even if you manage to get a good buddy by your side, some online trophies are just insanely difficult. My brother's virtually unable to get the trophies for Twisted Metal at this point. Take for instance All Sales Are Final. So I have to win (not just play) 1 Online Ranked game per day for 30 days straight. So, if either me or my partner get an emergency and are unable to play on any given day, it's like "fuck you, just start all over again". At least with offline trophies you depend on yourself and yourself only. It should be as simple as this: put online modes, but not online trophies. That way, people that enjoy online can still play, but people that don't aren't forced to. It's one of the major reasons I'm going to get the PS3 versions of games until they all come out exclusively on PS4. That way, if I'm forced to play a mode I don't want to, at least I don't have to pay for it. Edited March 30, 2015 by jrdemr 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marnagra Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) +BullstompThe same thing goes to Killzone: Mercenary (I love it) You can earn all the online trophies in a bot zone, great idea. Edited March 30, 2015 by Macieeek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EliteGamer1983 Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 When I play a game, I try to get the mp trophies done first. Subseqeuntly, I can hunt trophies at my own pace with no worries of servers going down. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post monkeydluffy512 Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 I always thought that the online trophies should be done as add-on trophies. That way you can still get the platinum if servers go down and if you choose to play the online the trophies are there. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humonic Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Make online trophies not count towards the platinum. Everyone's happy.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusTheShadow Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'm not a fan of online trophies but making them add-on is very unlikely to happen.I mean the point of online trophies most of the time is to "force" you to try the online part and spend some time on it. Also making them immediately earned if servers are closed would be a slap in the face of people who actually obtained them normally. Assassin's creed Brotherhood has horrible online trophies,imagine how much people who gained all of them would be pissed if everybody got them by simply starting the game 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar_Of_Battle Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Also not a fan of MP trophies. (even though I have gone for what I could on a select few games because I could do most myself.) Especially when they are included in the "base game" yet have nothing to do with the main game. I'm all for an online mode, for other people not myself, but don't add MP trophies to the "base game" keeping a good portion of people from obtaining the platinum. That's just dumb. These people don't help you progress through a story or anything. Why should a pointless multiplayer (looking at you every freakin CoD game) be part of obtaining 100% of the BASE GAME? Killing zombies and aliens in CoD has nothing to do with the game itself. This doesn't even weed out skilled players because with boosting those that actually competed for those trophies get lost in the mix. Now one could argue that co-op story mode trophies are different as it means someone will in fact help you progress through the story...but forcing people to play just doesn't sit well with me. I agree that if there are MP trophies? Make them add ons, DLC's or release the game with those trophies as a "come with" DLC. They already release multiple maps and stuff for games why not just separate the MP list and the Base Game list from the beginning? Keep in mind...this is only from a trophy standpoint. When it comes to gaming I look at many other things before the trophy list and if I think the game is going to be enjoyable enough I'm going to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) I tend to avoid games with online trophies that are a pain, because I know I will want to get them, and it will be a pain to do so. If they do include online trophies, they may earn less money. Edited March 30, 2015 by MMDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKUSERNMS Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) MP trophies, online or offline, suck (except for fighting games where I can cheat with a second controller) I sometimes buy a second copy and force my friends to help me get the trophies. so yea..online trophies are awful and the worst kind are MP specially ones like Dying Light's "Complete 5 quests in a single co-op game with the same 3 partners" Edited March 30, 2015 by FKUSERNMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boots_12345 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Some of online tropies could be a pain. They could glitch on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proffrink2008 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Online trophies are the bane of my existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ButteredPretzel Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 My reaction when I see that a game I'm about to start has online trophies: 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slipknot_rooney Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't understand at all why multiplayer shouldn't have trophies. It somehow forces trophy hunters to play the game quickly and complete all of these until the servers are working, developers who make games with online trophies are assholes. That's a bit much, assholes? Really? If you don't like these trophies, don't get them, just by obtaining them you are basically saying 'I hate these multiplayer trophies but I'll play your game and get them anyway'. You are encouraging developers to put in multiplayer trophies, so you're not helping yourself. (I am of course assuming you get these trophies) It's like when people complain about DLC but buy it anyway for the trophies, if you hate DLC, don't play, you're just encouraging it. One positive about these trophies (in my opinion) is that it makes some plats nice and rare lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICO2100 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Im fine with SOME online trophies like getting a couple kills with certain weapons, win a match on each gamemode etc. Now when you run into those trophies like Get to max rank, play 10 matches with the same teammates, unlock all weapon attachments and challenges those are the trophies that i hate going for. Imo online trophies should be something to test out multiplayer on that particular game not spend hours upon hours grinding for a couple trophies on a horrible overall multiplayer experience which most online games tend to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xZoneHunter Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 If developers want to include an online mode into their game, they should also make it available offline with bots. I don't care how difficult or how grindy the online trophies are, the only thing i care about is the ability to still gain them. If they include an offline mode with bots where you can gain all those mp trophies i'm happy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOTP Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) As much as I think R* make great games; they really make you work for those online trophies. Not saying a bit of online is not fun, but putting level based trophies in their games forces you to commit fully (if you want the platinum) and leaves little time for anything else. I would much prefer to play single player to be honest. Still, I suppose the Heist Trophies could have been a lot harder; something like passes all elite challenges on hard or something... Edited March 30, 2015 by BOOTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nst3rG4m3r007 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I completely disagree with monstergamer. Trophies should be earned not given away. This is one of the things Mass Effect 3 did right and I am disappointed more titles have not done since. ME3 had online trophies BUT there was an alternate way to win those same trophies in the campaign. Genius That is a great alternative I admit but for example on my xbox 360 I played doritos crash course not realising I couldn't 100% it because the servers were down and its games like that where the trophies/achievements become completely unobtainable should be given so people like me aren't incredibly frustrated its on my list.... Make online trophies not count towards the platinum. Everyone's happy.. I believe they did this for Killzone 3, I think i saw someone had a killzone 3 Multiplayer trophy list alongside a regular one so people who don't play online could get the platinum! When I saw this I thought it would be a good thing to do for games like killzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakk55 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I do agree with you on some points. Some games has certain online trophies that are too complicated or too cheap to be actually worthwhile like the typical "Get to Level 50" or "Kill 10,000 players" which really was only put there because they know it will force the trophy hunters to continuously play the game to get the online trophy, "increasing" the replay value. While I don't think they should just autopop the online trophies if the servers are shut down, why not just add in an alternate method to pop it offline. I think Mass Effect 3 had that option where you could either beat the game on Insane or finish 3 online Maps on Gold. That or patch it so you can get it offline with bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boooda Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Im typing this complaint as I'm working towards my last trophy in Hardline which is a multiplayer trophy -____- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nst3rG4m3r007 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I do agree with you on some points. Some games has certain online trophies that are too complicated or too cheap to be actually worthwhile like the typical "Get to Level 50" or "Kill 10,000 players" which really was only put there because they know it will force the trophy hunters to continuously play the game to get the online trophy, "increasing" the replay value. While I don't think they should just autopop the online trophies if the servers are shut down, why not just add in an alternate method to pop it offline. I think Mass Effect 3 had that option where you could either beat the game on Insane or finish 3 online Maps on Gold. That or patch it so you can get it offline with bots. The idea of having to do it with bots is bettter than my original opinion i think, it means you're still earning it which I like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Satoshi Ookami Posted March 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2015 I completely disagree with monstergamer. Trophies should be earned not given away. This is one of the things Mass Effect 3 did right and I am disappointed more titles have not done since. ME3 had online trophies BUT there was an alternate way to win those same trophies in the campaign. Genius. Make online trophies not count towards the platinum. Everyone's happy.. If only developers read these two posts... But we are minority in multiplayer-oriented games. Most players are casuals not caring about trophies and in most cases they have great connections... Developers should also think of those who have bad connections... and forcing these to play MP just for few trophies is a modern torture. I'm really glad I play Japanese games that have really low percentage of online trophies (usually only fighters). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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